A Lil HELP Please - smooth Alox Cadet - Repair

[cali-SAK-attack]

 
Just in............ Came with broken spring on openers.

QUESTIONS   

1 - What DONOR back spring can be swapped in? (does it have to be a smooth alox cadet only? will any others work? etc,etc,etc  )

2 - What size brass pin stock is needed? - (yes i searched but not much out there on SMOOTH ALOX)     

3 - Is there a memeber here who has the parts for sale? 

4 - Is there a member here who would be willing to tackle the spring swap, who already has spring and brass pin in there vast parts bins already?

5 - Does anybody know who the Advertised company is : "CJB"  ( I searched online = ZIP/ZIPPO/ZILCH ) 

I would love to fix or have it fixed and TOTE this thang! 

  I do have the othe half of the spring.... I put the whole knife in the Sonic Cleaner, when done with 2 cycles on level 3 , I rinsed it in the sink, and the damn thing fell down the drain into the "P" Trap....so I will get it out ASAP   

[jaya_man]

I think you can use opener backsprings from regular 84mm cellidors...

Pin sizes are the same as well... 2.2mm for all..


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[cali-SAK-attack]

  Thanks , Jaya!

so any 84mm huh ..........  hmmmm pretty sure I have a donor!

2.2mm brass rod - anybody know of a source in USA? nothin on my GO TO: eBAY 

[JamesJ]

You'd of course want a Recruit spring unless you're trying to add an awl on back.

I've never found 2.2mm rod, I make it from 2.5mm.

[cali-SAK-attack]

  Thanks , James!!! 
 RECRUIT donor is what I had in mind from my Doubles Pile    - BUT GOOD STINKIN' THINKIN' , Ma Friend! I fergot about back tools. 

2.5mm I may just have a piece  (Bought a small multi-pack at OSH not long back)  ... TO THE GARAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 

[cali-SAK-attack]

UPDATE...........
I had a piece of 3/32" or 2.38mm 

Taped off front scale, in prep. 

Gonna go see about the Donor Recruit for spring now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   

[jaya_man]

Ah, right not just 84mm opener springs.. Recruit opener springs...

Cali, think you will still need to reduce the pin diameter a bit... Vic's is actually 2.25mm but 2.2mm will do... I would also start with the back scales... just in case the drill bit decides to move about...

Good luck with your restoration... pics please afterwards...

If desired, you might want to add scissors to it... ah ah ah...


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[cali-SAK-attack]

REALLY APPRECIATE The HELP and REPLIES , Jaya & James...... Thanks guys   


Thanks again , Jaya 
Yes,Sir ... I plan on chucking the rod in a hand drill....... and sanding it down a tad. I will keep checking spring holes for fitment. 

I am only removeing the center pin for this fix .................. but for future reference  , are the pivot pins a different size? 

Taped up knife - Cuz I am a Fumble Fingers 

Filed pin flat ( on rear side  )

Donor extras removed

Here is where I am at now (pics below) ..................... Gonna center punch pin on alox to drill out, NEXT.

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Pics Cont............... 

[jaya_man]

Removing just a pin might be too hard a task... backspring tension comes into play... but it's worth giving a shot...

Pin diameter is the same for all pins...


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[cali-SAK-attack]

  DANG...LOL....... Crosses fingers an toes , that I only have to do center.   

[hiraethus]

Should be possible to do it by only removing the middle pin.  You'll need to open up all the tools and use a vice or clamp to compress the springs into position so you can get the replacement pin in.   Peen the one end first before you push it through - you'll get a better finish that way.  Sand or file a nice long taper on the other end of the replacement pin to help it through the holes.

[cali-SAK-attack]

  10-4 Thanks , "H" 

[jaya_man]

Ah, the master has spoken...


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[cali-SAK-attack]

So it's 3:35 A.M. and I just finished her up.....besides a lil polish and a good sharpening on the Spyderco SharpMaker 

I can only post 4 pics per post .....so might be a couple posts...... But here are some pics of my lil adventure in bringing this knife back to "USER" statis.

1 - filed off the rivet head on Donor knife to get spring to drop out after I drive the pin out with a Punch.

2 - Pin out & Spring out 

3 - Did the same with the ALOX CADET - Pin out , broken Spring out

4 - Broken spring   

[magentus]

3.35AM! You'll be wanted some well earned kip Cali!

Glad you got it done though - your first mod is a good feeling isn't it! 

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Pics Cont..........................   


1 - With all blades open ..... Cadet into Vice ... Compress springs to line up holes in Scales/Liner/Springs. 

2 - Used a broken Drill Bit ...Slightly smaller than Brass pin/rod needed ...... To line up holes. 

3 - Sanded down 3/32" or 2.38mm Brass rod/Pin stock = chucked it into my Drill and held it on a sanding block with sticky back sand paper applied to it.
Once I got it to correct size, I tapped it into the knife,on a anvil with a hole in it ,so the pin on bottom could extend through. 

4 - Time to nip the ends , with my fancy schmancy Nippers ........ 

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Cont ............................     

1,2,&3 - Pin Nipped on both sides , Tested all blades for WALK N' TALK before i get ready to peen! 

4 - Time to File the pins flat now that they are Nipped off where I want em. 

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cont ..................    

1&2 - Both sides Filed Flat .......... READY TO PEEN!!! 

3 - Anvil and Hammer( AKA - Lil' Pecker  ) , Prepped to Peen!

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1 & 2 - Peened up - tap,flip.............tap,flip..............tap tap flip...............tap tappitiy tap tap FLIP! TAP! FRIGGIN TAP....FLIP!!!!!!

3 - Sanded some scratches out of the blade, I think the last guy feathered n' scmooothed out the blade on a GUTTER CURB
I used 1000 grit wet dry and called her good ta GO >>>>>>>>>


More pics tomorrow after a lil polish and sharpening session.

THANKS AGAIN GUYS FOR THE ADVICE/HELP ! 

[cali-SAK-attack]

3.35AM! You'll be wanted some well earned kip Cali!

Glad you got it done though - your first mod is a good feeling isn't it! 

Thanks , Mags!
I work nights , so I was just killin time....AKA Milkin' the clock 
Yep not my first pocket knife repair, but my 1st SAK  - Wanna try some others.........BUT,  still not sure about the Bushing thang on the Cell units.
We'll see ........................ 

[magentus]

Lovely job! 

[twiliter]

Good work Cali, that one should be easy to carry! 

[jaya_man]

Awesome resto work Cali... Just lovely... clean job on the peening... Me likey... a looot...


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[cali-SAK-attack]

  Thanks Guys!     

[FolderBeholder]

Amazing job!  Thanks for all the pics too!
Quick question, is that painter's tape?  Looks like it might be plus it doesn't leave residue when removing correct?

[SteveC]

Nice job cali 

[JamesJ]

Allright! Get that in your pocket and smile every time you use it.

[cali-SAK-attack]

Thanks for the comments , Lisa , Steve & James!   


 

[cali-SAK-attack]

Amazing job!  Thanks for all the pics too!
Quick question, is that painter's tape?  Looks like it might be plus it doesn't leave residue when removing correct?

Thanks again , Lees' 

Yeppers , 3M Blue Painters Tape........ I love this stuff for projects and craft type stuff..... cuz like ya say: NO RESIDUE! , Even if ya get it wet.