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Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.

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Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
on: February 20, 2017, 11:56:23 PM
First post in this sub forum. I scored a Vic salesman for cheap, but it had a broken blade. I planned on adding a saw to it, but don't use one often enough to warrant adding one. I still needed to replace the blade though. Went through all the motions and everything turned out great, except the scissor layer has no snap while closing. I have to physically push them back in. Any suggestions short of taking it all apart again? Only thing I can think is the pivot hole on the scissors is rough and it's catching on the brass pin.


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #1 on: February 21, 2017, 12:29:11 AM
... might also be too much pressure on the pin(s).
Take off the scales and pour boiling water over the knife (heat expansion might loosen a bit of the pressure).Open all tools gently a couple of times, put some oil in it.
And hope ;-)

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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #2 on: February 21, 2017, 12:43:35 AM
... might also be too much pressure on the pin(s).
Take off the scales and pour boiling water over the knife (heat expansion might loosen a bit of the pressure).Open all tools gently a couple of times, put some oil in it.
And hope ;-)

Tomcat
Thanks Tomcat. I'll give this a shot. Didn't think this was the issue as the small blade snaps just a fine.


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #3 on: February 21, 2017, 12:48:45 AM
Never had this ussue on a Vic, though - only on older vintage knives I took apart and fixed again.
But then, it was mostly one blade that wouldn't snap, so there is hope for a simple fix ;-)
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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #4 on: February 21, 2017, 02:23:09 AM
Wiggle the scissors laterally as you open and close. This also helps to loosen it a bit...


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #5 on: February 21, 2017, 09:18:11 PM
Hey Roc,
anything new here? :cheers:
Keeping my can-openers crossed!
;-)
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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #6 on: February 21, 2017, 09:27:58 PM
Hey Roc,
anything new here? :cheers:
Keeping my can-openers crossed!
;-)
Tomcat
Tried wiggling it back and forth to loosen and then lightly pried with a flat driver. Didn't work. I'll try the boiling water later to see if that helps. What I don't get is the other tools on that pin are just fine. The scissors also have a snap when opened.


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #7 on: February 21, 2017, 10:46:08 PM
Sounds like maybe it's either rubbing on something or the scissors or maybe the liner is bent ?


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #8 on: February 21, 2017, 11:02:26 PM
Sounds like maybe it's either rubbing on something or the scissors or maybe the liner is bent ?
There's no contact between the scissors and liner. I have a feeling it's either in the scissor pivot or the inside of the backspring has a burr and needs sanded down. I'll see what I can do tonight. I have a good set of diamond jeweler files at work. Maybe I can smooth it out.
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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #9 on: February 23, 2017, 07:58:29 PM
Here's how you loosen Vic pins remove the scales open a vice just wide enough for the pin bushing to fit with no pressure then tap on the peened end on top with a small punch. Take your time use a small hammer.

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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #10 on: February 23, 2017, 09:43:56 PM
Here's how you loosen Vic pins remove the scales open a vice just wide enough for the pin bushing to fit with no pressure then tap on the peened end on top with a small punch. Take your time use a small hammer.

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Thanks for the tip Mike. I'll give this a go before I resort to rippin this thing apart again. I've exhausted all other ideas.


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #11 on: February 23, 2017, 09:58:29 PM
Once ( in quite a lot of knives I've tried my luck on) I messed up the pin so it bent inside the hole of the blade. Weird, I know, but that brought a lot of difficulties...
Have you checked the spring on the inside- any small cracks?

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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #12 on: February 23, 2017, 10:12:19 PM
Once ( in quite a lot of knives I've tried my luck on) I messed up the pin so it bent inside the hole of the blade. Weird, I know, but that brought a lot of difficulties...
Have you checked the spring on the inside- any small cracks?

Tomcat
Just checked on your suggestion. Nothing to be seen.


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #13 on: February 23, 2017, 10:17:00 PM
Gooood! :tu:
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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #14 on: February 23, 2017, 10:20:54 PM
Gooood! :tu:
My thoughts exactly. At first I thought I saw one, so I ran a pinched qtip across it. Just a piece of my dogs hair. Man that stuff really does get everywhere.


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #15 on: February 23, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
Looks like this things coming apart again next week. Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I appreciate all the help. I'll be sure to post up once I get it right.  :cheers:


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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #16 on: February 25, 2017, 11:21:36 PM
Ive had old backsprings like that would be, crack internally near the pivot area.  So if you are taking it apart again inspect for anything like that.  Sometimes the liners can also crack and then the layers towards the center will have less snap.

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Re: Scissors have no snap after blade replacement.
Reply #17 on: February 25, 2017, 11:44:28 PM
Ive had old backsprings like that would be, crack internally near the pivot area.  So if you are taking it apart again inspect for anything like that.  Sometimes the liners can also crack and then the layers towards the center will have less snap.
Thanks Syph. I'll put it under the lens and have a good look. That would be a total bummer. It would have to become a Tinker.


 

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