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Amefa Corner!
on: March 15, 2017, 09:04:07 PM
They can be a little mysterious, maybe shunned, but these Amefa-made Dutch Army Knives need love too!

This thread is part-info and part-photo-goodness, like the Wenger SI thread!  8)
(Of course, knowing ya'll, it will probably be derailed.  :facepalm: )
I will post links later to other Amefa threads, for info and reference purposes.
For now,  :worthless: !

Copy-pasted post from another thread for (again) reference purposes:
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Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on March 13, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on March 13, 2017, 07:43:16 PM
How's the build quality on the Amefa? Can it be compared to Vics? Can you compare it to something?
First and foremost:
I have no alox to compare it to, the best I have is recent celidor. There have been threads with alox comparisons though.  :pok:

Mine is the '72(?)-'74 pattern, with a bottle opener opposite the awl, a straight blade in its own layer and no can opener. Some would carry it just because of the unusual toolset.  :D

In terms of robustness and strength, I think its equal to Vic.
Fit and finish? Not so good.


The scales appear to have the same texture as Vic alox.(But they might be thicker? Can anyone compare to a modern Alox and '70s soldier?)
The rivets stick out a little on the backside, though I don't notice it usually.

The Awl is Good. It is the only polished tool, and I would say its almost exactly like the Vic awl.  :tu:  :D

I think the Bottle opener is the thick beefy version(thicker than modern alox) also present in Vic soldiers of the same era(Can anyone check?), and has the scraper.  :tu:
(Though it tapers at the point slightly thinner than a modern celidor, can anyone compare to a '70s soldier?)
The Vic soldier bottle opener from same era is also unpolished, I hear.

The Bail is Good.  :D  :tu:

That leaves the blade. It appears to start tapering around 2/3 up*, like a Wenger SI(So I hear) so its stout. But it has less belly(?). Its also unpolished.

On mine, the springs are strong, but not too much. Some apparently have weak or nailbreaker springs.
The awl spring is also misaligned with the scales when the awl is closed, right where it sits*.
The bottle opener has a slight wiggle that comes and goes in the fully open position, but thats just mine I think.
The Nickle-Brass liner is dull, but you know, its old and used!

*Probably only applies to the 72(?)-74 Amefa pattern

Whew. :D
Thats my day post word count quota done. :P

Can anyone answer my bolded questions? Thank you!
« Last Edit: May 12, 2017, 03:24:03 PM by magentus »
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #1 on: March 15, 2017, 10:31:34 PM
KL74... From 1972(?) to 1974, Amefa made this curious pattern for the dutch army.  :D
Main blade in one layer, Awl and Bottle opener in another layer.
Why did the dutch army not want the can opener? The answer will probably be never known.  :( ;)
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 12:29:46 AM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on March 15, 2017, 10:31:34 PM
KL74... From 1972(?) to 1974, Amefa made this curious pattern for the dutch army.  :D
Main blade in one layer, Awl and Bottle opener in another layer.
Why did the dutch army not want the can opener? The answer will probably be never known.  :( ;)
First, I am 75% Dutch.
Second, having a can opener in Dutch army recruit hands, may just have made it a complicated tool.  As configured it is still a simple tool. 



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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 12:51:44 AM
Awesome - I've never seen that can-openerless SAK before!
But you're right - you'd think soldiers would need a can opener more than most people. Mysterious!
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 01:24:12 AM
Way to go Pablo....I want one!!
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 06:26:14 AM
My 1981 Amefa has a can opener.
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 06:31:33 AM
i got one years ago. at first i wasn't sure if it was a kerambit or a can opener


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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #7 on: March 16, 2017, 08:10:55 AM
 :cheers:

Quote from: Ronald Schröder on March 16, 2017, 06:26:14 AM
My 1981 Amefa has a can opener.
Indeed! Yours is the post-1974 pattern. The dutch army must have come to their senses and changed the contract.  :rofl:
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #8 on: March 16, 2017, 08:26:30 AM
Nice pics.   :tu:   I will be back later to derail the thread.   :)

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Reply #9 on: March 16, 2017, 08:29:58 AM
Quote from: zoidberg on March 16, 2017, 08:26:30 AM
Nice pics.   :tu:   I will be back later to derail the thread.   :)
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #10 on: March 16, 2017, 08:48:19 AM
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Reply #11 on: March 16, 2017, 08:49:17 AM
I do agree on the pics, though, very nice indeed :tu:
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Reply #12 on: March 16, 2017, 05:49:45 PM
Another pic.


Anyone else got pics? :popcorn:
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Reply #13 on: April 11, 2017, 05:52:05 PM
Bump. I need to see more pictures...  :pok:  :drink:  :gimme:

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Reply #14 on: May 12, 2017, 03:20:39 PM
I'm after a Amefa at the moment, doe anyone have any information on these knives?
They issued Victorinox Soldiers in 1983-1992, with the exception of 1984.
Before that they Issued Amefa. But I can't find any information about the timeframe.

Is there somewhere I can find more info on this?
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Reply #15 on: May 12, 2017, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on April 11, 2017, 05:52:05 PM
Bump. I need to see more pictures...  :pok:  :drink:  :gimme:

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Reply #16 on: May 12, 2017, 03:40:15 PM
Quote from: Mactire404 on May 12, 2017, 03:20:39 PM
I'm after a Amefa at the moment, doe anyone have any information on these knives?
They issued Victorinox Soldiers in 1983-1992, with the exception of 1984.
Before that they Issued Amefa. But I can't find any information about the timeframe.

Is there somewhere I can find more info on this?
There have been other threads talking about amefa, and I do know that Amefa made DAKs from at least the 1960's to when victorinox took over. 
There was a DAK design in the 1960's, another for a few years around 1974(See picture) and then they used the Victorinox Soldier design after that.  :think:
So at least 3 different designs/patterns

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Bump. I need to see more pictures...  :pok:  :drink:  :gimme:

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Reply #17 on: May 12, 2017, 03:46:25 PM
I might be able to get my hands on a '84 Amefa.
Can anyone give me an indication on price on these SAKs?
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Reply #18 on: May 12, 2017, 04:09:28 PM
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Reply #19 on: May 12, 2017, 05:01:13 PM
I paid about E 5 for mine.
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Reply #20 on: May 12, 2017, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on May 12, 2017, 05:01:13 PM
I paid about E 5 for mine.
Ten here I think, but it was under priced I think.
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #21 on: May 12, 2017, 11:24:12 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on March 16, 2017, 06:26:14 AM
My 1981 Amefa has a can opener.
:drool:

How does it compare to Victorinox?
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Re: Amefa Corner!
Reply #22 on: May 12, 2017, 11:34:39 PM
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Amefa Corner!
Reply #23 on: May 12, 2017, 11:41:09 PM
Quote from: Reinier on May 12, 2017, 11:34:39 PM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on May 12, 2017, 04:09:28 PM
Lowtech sold a pretty used one for 30€:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=51209.0
Reinier sold a bunch once, including a 1970 brown scaled design:
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,26697.msg475552.html#msg475552

Few more links:
Amefa DAK?
Are AMEFA (KL marked) Dutch Army 93mm Knives comparable to Vic soldiers?
Big thread:
Dutch Army Knives

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Thanks, I see.  Pretty much what would have happened had Wenger not used Vic's can opener.   Seems pretty cool.  :cheers:
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #24 on: May 13, 2017, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on May 12, 2017, 11:24:12 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on March 16, 2017, 06:26:14 AM
My 1981 Amefa has a can opener.
:drool:

How does it compare to Victorinox?

The knife, or the can opener? I never used the can opener.
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Re: Amefa Love!
Reply #25 on: May 13, 2017, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on May 13, 2017, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on May 12, 2017, 11:24:12 PM
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on March 16, 2017, 06:26:14 AM
My 1981 Amefa has a can opener.
:drool:

How does it compare to Victorinox?

The knife, or the can opener? I never used the can opener.

Either/or.   Was more a general question.   :cheers:
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Re: Amefa Corner!
Reply #26 on: May 13, 2017, 04:15:09 PM
I really like that that the tools and scales feel slightly more chunky on  the AMEFA than Victorinox, also the blade seems to hold an edge a little longer, however the tolerances on modern Vics is far superior. ( I don't own a victorinox of similar age to compare) I got this one as it's my birth year but don't carry it- I miss the small screwdriver from on the can opener too much
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Re: Amefa Corner!
Reply #27 on: May 13, 2017, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: Drreptar on May 13, 2017, 04:15:09 PM
I really like that that the tools and scales feel slightly more chunky on  the AMEFA than Victorinox, also the blade seems to hold an edge a little longer, however the tolerances on modern Vics is far superior. ( I don't own a victorinox of similar age to compare) I got this one as it's my birth year but don't carry it- I miss the small screwdriver from on the can opener too much

Do you have a scale you could weigh it on?  We could compare it to a Vic. I don't have a '78 but I have an '81, probably close enough  :cheers:
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Re: Amefa Corner!
Reply #28 on: May 13, 2017, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: El Corkscrew on May 13, 2017, 04:29:30 PM
Quote from: Drreptar on May 13, 2017, 04:15:09 PM
I really like that that the tools and scales feel slightly more chunky on  the AMEFA than Victorinox, also the blade seems to hold an edge a little longer, however the tolerances on modern Vics is far superior. ( I don't own a victorinox of similar age to compare) I got this one as it's my birth year but don't carry it- I miss the small screwdriver from on the can opener too much

Do you have a scale you could weigh it on?  We could compare it to a Vic. I don't have a '78 but I have an '81, probably close enough  :cheers:


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Re: Amefa Corner!
Reply #29 on: May 13, 2017, 05:20:39 PM
Wow!  :o
I wonder how the extra 12g translates into increased robustness?
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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