I have a couple of inlaid "Camping" Rangers that are both 1985 or later (sewing eye in reamer) and one of them is 1992 or later, rivet in scissors, hook on back, etc. This one has a full complement of back tools (5), the other has 3 back tools, no hook, no chisel. Top right is the newer one, bottom left is the older.
...Others inlays on a Camper and Pickniker have aluminum head tweezers so 70's I think.
Grooved corkscrew, screw joint on scissors, cap lifter doesn't lock at 90°, no sewing eye on awl... I would estimate this as produced between '83 and '85...
I for surely don't... but probably this would be a good estimation...I also have both types of scales on my rangers(Image removed from quote.)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: jaya_man on July 14, 2017, 11:29:52 AMI for surely don't... but probably this would be a good estimation...I also have both types of scales on my rangers(Image removed from quote.)Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAre those both inlay?
So we know the inlay goes at least post 91.
Another datapoint.......http://m.ebay.com/itm/322595759676?NAV=HOME
I'll add a fourth type here.Hiraethus sent me some scales and the logo (including the cross), isn't inlaid, or hot-stamped, but smooth and almost 'beneath' the scale surface.See pic for details:
Quote from: magentus on July 17, 2017, 01:07:28 PMI'll add a fourth type here.Hiraethus sent me some scales and the logo (including the cross), isn't inlaid, or hot-stamped, but smooth and almost 'beneath' the scale surface.See pic for details:Is pad printed? Is its color white or silver?
It is likely that there is a huge overlap between the inlaid phase-out and the hot stamp phase-in. Unless Vic has a strict "first in, first out" inventory practice (not really needed in their business), inlaid scales could have remained in inventory years after the hot stamp phase-in. They weren't replacing the inlaid because they were defective, just as a cost savings. So a definitive end date for the inlaid may in reality be only a paperwork date.Another datapoint, note the solid corkscrew....http://m.ebay.com/itm/201987050090
Quote from: Boonies on July 17, 2017, 07:12:17 PMIt is likely that there is a huge overlap between the inlaid phase-out and the hot stamp phase-in. Unless Vic has a strict "first in, first out" inventory practice (not really needed in their business), inlaid scales could have remained in inventory years after the hot stamp phase-in. They weren't replacing the inlaid because they were defective, just as a cost savings. So a definitive end date for the inlaid may in reality be only a paperwork date.Another datapoint, note the solid corkscrew....http://m.ebay.com/itm/201987050090Speaking of which, there is quite a bit of inconsistency with the corkscrew, sourced from different places at different times. Some fluted corkscrews you could bobsled in, others are barely noticeable... while on the Economy knives starting in the early 70's the corkscrew is not fluted. The corkscrew shares awl of of its secrets with me. Lot's to factor in, may not ever get an accurate answer but it's a lot of fun trying!
Great information as usual!
Quote from: Rapidray on February 03, 2019, 02:58:43 PMGreat information as usual! Thanks, Ray! This thread really helped spur my interest in dating various Vic 91mm features. When I noticed the Hoffritz knives would help me 'lock up' a lot of dates if coupled with Camping inlays it really piqued my interest in the subject. Hoffritz Rangers are relatively inexpensive and contain *all* the backside tools to boot.
Quote from: kamakiri on February 04, 2019, 03:20:13 AMQuote from: Rapidray on February 03, 2019, 02:58:43 PMGreat information as usual! Thanks, Ray! This thread really helped spur my interest in dating various Vic 91mm features. When I noticed the Hoffritz knives would help me 'lock up' a lot of dates if coupled with Camping inlays it really piqued my interest in the subject. Hoffritz Rangers are relatively inexpensive and contain *all* the backside tools to boot.Oh yes, I know what you mean. My Hoffritz Camping is one of my favorite along with the Hoffritz Fisherman.
Fascinating! It's probably my all-time favorite scale variation!
Pics when they come in...stay tuned Camping Fans.