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Axe redesigned after 8000 years!

gb Offline daverobson

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Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
on: August 18, 2017, 09:22:21 PM
Our resident axe experts will probably have seen this but I've only just come across it.

A Finnish inventor has redesigned the axe! To stop immediately on impact.
No more chopped legs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2623425/Inventor-comes-redesign-axe-8-000-years-curved-blade-stops-swinging-straight-wood-leg.html
« Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 09:23:49 PM by daverobson »


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #1 on: August 18, 2017, 09:40:23 PM
I have seen clips of that in use, and it seems that it could be a strain on the wrists, and only has one function (splitting). Personally I feel happier with traditional patterns  :salute:


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #2 on: August 18, 2017, 09:54:41 PM
« Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 10:44:55 PM by daverobson »


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #3 on: August 19, 2017, 01:12:43 AM
I don't think I would like how it twists on impact. I would have to hold it tight enough to swing without flinging but loose enough to allow it to twist without hurting my wrists. I too prefer the traditional designs. Perhaps they've been around essentially unchanged for so long for a reason.


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #4 on: August 19, 2017, 01:16:30 AM
How does it split the wood all the way through again? The wedge width?
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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #5 on: August 19, 2017, 01:59:44 AM
How does it split the wood all the way through again? The wedge width?
Watch the slow motion video - it seems the blade striking at an angle and prising the wood apart works better than forcing the blade vertically through the wood.
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Its centre of gravity, which isn't directly above the blade but to the side, means the axe automatically comes down at an angle to split the wood.


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #6 on: August 19, 2017, 02:48:39 AM
I am not chopping wood, so no expert. However, from observation, there are a few potential issues with this design:
- Strain on the wrist, as others pointed out: this design works like a shovel, but side way. The handle would rotate a bit in your hand
- Chopping only on one side: The blade curves toward left or right, depending on the design. I think one of your shoulder will hurt more than the other at the end of the day.


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #7 on: August 19, 2017, 03:09:21 AM
Perhaps they could make one where the handle stays as is and the head rotates upon striking the wood.  :think:


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #8 on: August 19, 2017, 11:25:14 AM
Perhaps they could make one where the handle stays as is and the head rotates upon striking the wood.  :think:

I think the head would turn prematurely from the momentum on the downswing


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #9 on: August 19, 2017, 11:36:35 AM
The inventor became a member here and kept linking to his page without permission and eventually got banned because he wouldn't listen to the mods and Grant about linking :facepalm: Most thoughts about it were the same as the above comments as well :cheers: :D


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #10 on: August 19, 2017, 08:00:55 PM
This guy rips it apart at the end  :facepalm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_s3Ci1Dl0s
« Last Edit: August 19, 2017, 08:08:27 PM by SteveC »


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #11 on: August 19, 2017, 08:21:31 PM
 :oops::oops:


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #12 on: August 19, 2017, 08:25:50 PM
perhaps we should ask this delightful lady what she thinks about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fWo0P0MdJM
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"And now, it's time to hand this over to our tame race axe driver. Some say, he can live in the forest for six months at a time without food, and he knows of a secret tribe of only women where he is their God. All we know is, he's call the Styx!" - TazzieRob


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #13 on: August 20, 2017, 12:12:19 AM
perhaps we should ask this delightful lady what she thinks about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fWo0P0MdJM
Firstly: barefooted axe-girls... :dd:
Secondly: Also striking at an angle (or flicking it sideways), perhaps more easily done with a double bit as the centre of mass doesn't move when rotating.


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #14 on: August 20, 2017, 01:54:06 AM
:dd: 


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #15 on: August 20, 2017, 02:25:39 AM
What those guys said above that vid

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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #16 on: August 20, 2017, 03:27:18 AM
I really shouldn't, but


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #17 on: August 20, 2017, 07:45:55 AM
perhaps we should ask this delightful lady what she thinks about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fWo0P0MdJM

Thats impressive!
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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #18 on: August 30, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
Honestly, I think I like the Kindling Cracker much better.... although I haven't tried either of them.

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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #19 on: August 30, 2017, 03:40:03 PM
Honestly, I think I like the Kindling Cracker much better.... although I haven't tried either of them.

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That's the first time I've seen the Kindling Cracker. :tu:
Good idea for a home wood burning stove or a larger camp site.

I'm not sure if I could take one wild camping or backpacking. :think:
I'd prefer the Barefoot Axe Girl :like:
« Last Edit: August 30, 2017, 03:43:13 PM by daverobson »


ca Offline JP

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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 02:15:57 PM
^^^ I agree.

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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 03:33:58 PM
That Kindling cracker might be onto something
Solving problems you didn't know you had in the most obscure way possible

"And now, it's time to hand this over to our tame race axe driver. Some say, he can live in the forest for six months at a time without food, and he knows of a secret tribe of only women where he is their God. All we know is, he's call the Styx!" - TazzieRob


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #22 on: August 31, 2017, 10:54:03 PM
Honestly, I think I like the Kindling Cracker much better.... although I haven't tried either of them.

Def

That's the first time I've seen the Kindling Cracker. :tu:
Good idea for a home wood burning stove or a larger camp site.

I'm not sure if I could take one wild camping or backpacking. :think:
I'd prefer the Barefoot Axe Girl :like:

Even then it's still a solution looking for a problem, if it's too thin to stand up and slit from the end, just lay it flat on another piece and split one end of it, then twist axe handle and wood in opposite direction to finish splitting.


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #23 on: August 31, 2017, 11:50:31 PM
The intention of the kindling cracker is to make cutting kindling safer.


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #24 on: September 01, 2017, 12:24:17 AM
I know this rambles on for the first 9 minutes but this is how my Grandad used to cut his firewood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_lMbV-Bm7c


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #25 on: September 01, 2017, 12:25:17 AM
The intention of the kindling cracker is to make cutting kindling safer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-RhakR3Hg8


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #26 on: September 01, 2017, 12:57:46 AM
Same splitting tips in this video too (from about 2 minutes in):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5W6r5U7yBE


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #27 on: September 01, 2017, 03:44:01 AM
Same splitting tips in this video too (from about 2 minutes in):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5W6r5U7yBE

Yep exactly that, all that's necessary is a different way to hold the wood instead of $150 lump of cast iron plus a club hammer.


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #28 on: September 01, 2017, 08:31:19 AM
Same splitting tips in this video too (from about 2 minutes in):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5W6r5U7yBE

Yep exactly that, all that's necessary is a different way to hold the wood instead of $150 lump of cast iron plus a club hammer.

Or they can simply invest in a splitting maul or splitting axe (supposedly there is a difference between the two :think: )
Solving problems you didn't know you had in the most obscure way possible

"And now, it's time to hand this over to our tame race axe driver. Some say, he can live in the forest for six months at a time without food, and he knows of a secret tribe of only women where he is their God. All we know is, he's call the Styx!" - TazzieRob


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Re: Axe redesigned after 8000 years!
Reply #29 on: September 01, 2017, 04:43:26 PM
A few months ago I did what I was told by my health professional and bought an electric powered kinetic log splitter.  In a couple of hours work today I split more firewood than I could have in a serous 1/2 a day with either my maul or my splitting axe (and a lot of it was curly grain eucalyptus which can be a real pain to split).  I can still move (albeit with a slightly stiff back) so while expensive it was money well spent.
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