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Which Olight next? 4102

OCD Squad Leader Admin Team Zombie Apprentice Posts: 11,819
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #90 on: December 06, 2018, 01:22:50 PM »
Oh and in case you guys haven't seen it... the Olight S1RII is now available in Titanium :D

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #91 on: December 06, 2018, 02:35:01 PM »
Well here’s the S1R and the S2 ( about 2mm difference to the R)



The H1R is a good headlight if you remember to carry the strap with you. I find the 90 degree head to be awkward under normal use.


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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #92 on: December 06, 2018, 02:41:34 PM »
Oh and in case you guys haven't seen it... the Olight S1RII is now available in Titanium :D

Fancy.  I really do like my S1R and a Ti one would be "dressy" version. 

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #93 on: December 06, 2018, 02:43:23 PM »
@Smashie nice comparison photo.  The H1 is a little light, smaller than the S1R?   

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Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #94 on: December 06, 2018, 02:44:38 PM »
Even more to think about now :ahhh Thanks for the pics and more input guys :salute: All the Ti stuff looks so nice :dd: but then again so does all the copper :dd: and the black ones......... They all look so nice :ahhh

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #95 on: December 06, 2018, 02:56:37 PM »
Here you go poncho


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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #96 on: December 06, 2018, 03:20:47 PM »
I have never even put the clip on my H1 ?
It is a great headlamp and I intend to keep it that way!

I also don't really want an 18650 on my head for anything and most of my HL use is up close anyway so with using lower output levels the single primary cell lasts a long time for me.

But the thing I really can't understand about the Olights in general is how they went from the brilliant stand based magnetic charging without the need to take the light apart at all to the current removable battery charging like everyone else?

I usually will carry a ZL if I have to remove batteries anyway and I get more level options this way as well.

But I also can not seem to stop collecting Olights despite these preferences?

I never met a light I didn't like,even the ones I don't like! :gimme:
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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #97 on: December 06, 2018, 04:18:34 PM »
I had a 18650 headlamp that was heavy but I think it was mostly due to the body.  It was built like a tank.  If you can get one in hand maybe that'll help.  I like my 90 degree light as I can attach to my shirt pocket ( AAA light ).  I also am liking the magnetic tail ends.  I can stick my light up and broadcast light out instead of just down or up with standard flashlights. Of course with a larger cell (18650) attaching it to a shirt may or may not be ideal, a jacket however  :think:

Now I'm sure there are other manufactures to be considered.  I have a Fenix running dual CR123s but its an older model with 345 max lumen.  Seems lacking compared to current lights but its still a great light.  It fits in great as a camp light with my headlamp. 

Here are some specs from Olight.  Theres not much of an "upgrade" from your S1R v2  (lumen and runtime) until you move up in cell size.   

Your S1R v2 specs;

LEVEL 1 (lumens)   1000
Run-time LEVEL 1   
1000 lumens (1.5 minutes) then drops to 300 lumens (37 minutes)
LEVEL 2 (lumens)   600
Run-time LEVEL 2   
600 lumens (1.5 minutes) then drops to 300 lumens (45 minutes)
LEVEL 3 (lumens)   60
Run-time LEVEL 3   
60 lumens (3 hours and 40 minutes)
LEVEL 4 (lumens)   12
Run-time LEVEL 4   
12 lumens (20 hours)
LEVEL 5 (lumens)   0.5
Run-time LEVEL 5   
0.5 lumen (8 days)
Strobe   Yes
SOS / BEACON   No


M2R Warrior specs;
 
LEVEL 1 (lumens)   1500
Run-time LEVEL 1   
(1500) lumens drops to ~700lm;
(3m), 1hr50m
LEVEL 2 (lumens)   700
Run-time LEVEL 2   
2h.
LEVEL 3 (lumens)   250
Run-time LEVEL 3   
6h15m.
LEVEL 4 (lumens)   60
Run-time LEVEL 4   20h.
LEVEL 5 (lumens)   15
Run-time LEVEL 5   
70h.
LEVEL 6 (lumens)   1
Run-time LEVEL 6   
25 days.
Strobe   Yes
SOS / BEACON   No

S2R specs;

LEVEL 1 (lumens)   1150
Run-time LEVEL 1   
(1150)lumens drops to ~400lm
(2m) , 230m.
LEVEL 2 (lumens)   400
Run-time LEVEL 2   
4h
LEVEL 3 (lumens)   120
Run-time LEVEL 3   
14h
LEVEL 4 (lumens)   15
Run-time LEVEL 4   
100h
LEVEL 5 (lumens)   0.5
Run-time LEVEL 5   
60 days
Strobe   Yes
SOS / BEACON   No

H1R specs;

LEVEL 1 (lumens)   600
Run-time LEVEL 1   
(600) lumens drops to ~180lm;
(3m) 1h20m.
LEVEL 2 (lumens)   180
Run-time LEVEL 2   
1h40m.
LEVEL 3 (lumens)   60
Run-time LEVEL 3   
5h
LEVEL 4 (lumens)   15
Run-time LEVEL 4   
20h.
LEVEL 5 (lumens)   2
Run-time LEVEL 5   
6days.
Strobe   No
SOS / BEACON   Yes

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Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #98 on: December 06, 2018, 04:28:20 PM »
Here you go poncho

(Image removed from quote.)

Another good comparison pic :tu: Thank you Sir :hatsoff:
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #99 on: December 06, 2018, 04:29:56 PM »
Thanks for the comments as well, ez and Aloha :tu: :like:
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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #100 on: December 06, 2018, 04:31:02 PM »
Or  Zebralight SC64w HI 18650 XHP35  :pok:/.  Now I know for some the UI is  :twak: but I find it to be no problem.  Set and forget.  I like the control over the modes.  As you can see there are several to choose from.  You can set the light up how you like. 
 
Light Output (runtimes)
High:        H1  1300 Lm (PID, 2.8 hrs)   or  H2 814 Lm (PID, 2.9 hrs)/467 Lm (PID, 3.2 hrs)/245 Lm (6.3 hrs)
Medium:  M1  118 Lm (13.8 hrs)   or   M2 52.5 Lm (28 hrs)/21.3 Lm (2.8 days)/7.9 Lm (7.3 days)
Low:         L1  2.7 Lm (18.5 days)  or  L2 0.86 Lm (1.5 months)/0.24 Lm (3 months)/0.06 Lm (4 months)
Beacon Strobe Mode: 0.2Hz Beacon at Low / 0.2Hz Beacon at H1 / 4Hz Strobe at H1 / 19Hz Strobe at H1

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Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #101 on: December 06, 2018, 04:33:33 PM »
I also prefer the easy charging system of the magnetic ends and am now off put by the comment by ez :think: which models require you to take the batteries out and charge them separate  :ahhh I also may take another look at ZL :salute:

Thanks guys :hatsoff:
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #102 on: December 06, 2018, 04:35:06 PM »
ZL sure does make a nice looking light with some good specs :dd: Thanks Aloha...I think :facepalm:

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #103 on: December 06, 2018, 04:37:22 PM »
The thing is though that you are really gaining more real output only runtime in the end.
The larger cell is still the same voltage as the smaller one just with a lot more current capacity for runtime OR bursts of higher output but since the output is tough to really perceive or appreciate between say 1000 or 1500 lumens how much does the added level get you really?

Because of this I carry an 18650 light for more runtime,sometimes(yeah I know it rhymes,and so did this?) but not output really.
I rarely need more than 300 lumens in real life but always want more run time.
At the same time I can not always recharge unless at home so the smaller lights that can use Primary batteries also have that advantage for my use.

It can be like a puzzle trying to get the balance of runtime and output that can work across a lot of different scenarios.

This is why I need so many different lights! :whistle:

I had a 18650 headlamp that was heavy but I think it was mostly due to the body.  It was built like a tank.  If you can get one in hand maybe that'll help.  I like my 90 degree light as I can attach to my shirt pocket ( AAA light ).  I also am liking the magnetic tail ends.  I can stick my light up and broadcast light out instead of just down or up with standard flashlights. Of course with a larger cell (18650) attaching it to a shirt may or may not be ideal, a jacket however  :think:

Now I'm sure there are other manufactures to be considered.  I have a Fenix running dual CR123s but its an older model with 345 max lumen.  Seems lacking compared to current lights but its still a great light.  It fits in great as a camp light with my headlamp. 

Here are some specs from Olight.  Theres not much of an "upgrade" from your S1R v2  (lumen and runtime) until you move up in cell size.   

Your S1R v2 specs;

LEVEL 1 (lumens)   1000
Run-time LEVEL 1   
1000 lumens (1.5 minutes) then drops to 300 lumens (37 minutes)
LEVEL 2 (lumens)   600
Run-time LEVEL 2   
600 lumens (1.5 minutes) then drops to 300 lumens (45 minutes)
LEVEL 3 (lumens)   60
Run-time LEVEL 3   
60 lumens (3 hours and 40 minutes)
LEVEL 4 (lumens)   12
Run-time LEVEL 4   
12 lumens (20 hours)
LEVEL 5 (lumens)   0.5
Run-time LEVEL 5   
0.5 lumen (8 days)
Strobe   Yes
SOS / BEACON   No


M2R Warrior specs;
 
LEVEL 1 (lumens)   1500
Run-time LEVEL 1   
(1500) lumens drops to ~700lm;
(3m), 1hr50m
LEVEL 2 (lumens)   700
Run-time LEVEL 2   
2h.
LEVEL 3 (lumens)   250
Run-time LEVEL 3   
6h15m.
LEVEL 4 (lumens)   60
Run-time LEVEL 4   20h.
LEVEL 5 (lumens)   15
Run-time LEVEL 5   
70h.
LEVEL 6 (lumens)   1
Run-time LEVEL 6   
25 days.
Strobe   Yes
SOS / BEACON   No

S2R specs;

LEVEL 1 (lumens)   1150
Run-time LEVEL 1   
(1150)lumens drops to ~400lm
(2m) , 230m.
LEVEL 2 (lumens)   400
Run-time LEVEL 2   
4h
LEVEL 3 (lumens)   120
Run-time LEVEL 3   
14h
LEVEL 4 (lumens)   15
Run-time LEVEL 4   
100h
LEVEL 5 (lumens)   0.5
Run-time LEVEL 5   
60 days
Strobe   Yes
SOS / BEACON   No

H1R specs;

LEVEL 1 (lumens)   600
Run-time LEVEL 1   
(600) lumens drops to ~180lm;
(3m) 1h20m.
LEVEL 2 (lumens)   180
Run-time LEVEL 2   
1h40m.
LEVEL 3 (lumens)   60
Run-time LEVEL 3   
5h
LEVEL 4 (lumens)   15
Run-time LEVEL 4   
20h.
LEVEL 5 (lumens)   2
Run-time LEVEL 5   
6days.
Strobe   No
SOS / BEACON   Yes
« Last Edit: December 06, 2018, 04:43:09 PM by ezdog »
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #104 on: December 06, 2018, 05:02:22 PM »
I would like something very bright (800 lm is bright enough to not be so snobbish ::) ) on a AAA battery that lasts for hours :whistle:

 :D

I know that isn't feasible (well at least not right now ;) ) but sure sounds nice :dd:
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #105 on: December 06, 2018, 05:05:44 PM »
Oh and the reason I want a bit bigger, brighter light with more throw is for home use to see out in my yard at night :salute: Need a light with a good few hundred feet throw that is very bright :tu: Guess I should have said that to begin with :facepalm:
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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #106 on: December 06, 2018, 05:15:06 PM »
My ZL SC52 L2 running a 14500 tops out at 535lm

Light Output (runtimes)
High:         H1 300 Lm (0.9 hrs)   or    H2  184 Lm (1.7 hrs) / 116 Lm (3 hrs)
Medium:    M1 54 Lm (7.5 hrs)    or    M2   27 Lm (12 hrs) / 13 Lm (27 hrs)
Low:         L1   2.9 Lm (4 days)   or    L2   0.36 Lm (3 weeks) / 0.06 Lm (2 months) / 0.01 Lm (3 months)
Beacon Strobe Mode: 4Hz Strobe at H1 / 19Hz Strobe at H1
 
Light output are ANSI out the front (OTF) values. Runtimes tested (and parasitic drain estimated) using Sanyo 2000mAh Eneloop AA batteries. Light output with 14500 batteries are the same except that the H1 is 535Lm for the first minute and then step down to 300Lm.

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #107 on: December 06, 2018, 05:18:57 PM »
I use Olight magnetic chargers for my S1Rs cell and my Olight branded 14500.  Yes I have to remove the battery on my ZL but its not that bad.  Great thing is and the reason I got the SC52 was its not picky about what cell it'll use.  Yes lumen lowers but still 300 is not bad at all.     

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2018, 05:19:48 PM »
Oh and the reason I want a bit bigger, brighter light with more throw is for home use to see out in my yard at night :salute: Need a light with a good few hundred feet throw that is very bright :tu: Guess I should have said that to begin with :facepalm:

A thrower is what you seek.  Ok.   :think:

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #109 on: December 06, 2018, 06:26:37 PM »
I use Olight magnetic chargers for my S1Rs cell and my Olight branded 14500.  Yes I have to remove the battery on my ZL but its not that bad.  Great thing is and the reason I got the SC52 was its not picky about what cell it'll use.  Yes lumen lowers but still 300 is not bad at all.   

I pretty much only EDC ZL as well.
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #110 on: December 06, 2018, 06:31:13 PM »
So what you guys are saying is this thread should be "What ZL next?" :D
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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #111 on: December 06, 2018, 07:11:15 PM »
So what you guys are saying is this thread should be "What ZL next?" :D

Probably a new thread called "Which ZL should be my First"!
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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #112 on: December 06, 2018, 08:06:14 PM »
I still like the Olight M2R  :salute:.  Really got some great reviews.  Spendy but unless you loose it  :whistle: it would be a great buy.  I also like the H2R.  Big for the head but not terrible.  Again, spendy but Olight makes some great lights. 

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #113 on: December 07, 2018, 12:30:41 AM »
I believe the lights with"R" designation have the charging tailcap and can be charged with magnetic charger, charging base or in a std charger. You can only charge the olight battery that comes with the light through the tailcap, other batterires wont charge in there but you can use them. Some of the others like s1 mini include a rcr123 that have a micro usb port built into the battery, can plug say a iphone wall charger with micro usb cable into them or put in std charger.

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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #114 on: December 07, 2018, 06:51:50 PM »
I still like the Olight M2R  :salute:.  Really got some great reviews.  Spendy but unless you loose it  :whistle: it would be a great buy.  I also like the H2R.  Big for the head but not terrible.  Again, spendy but Olight makes some great lights.

There is a local store with these in stock.
I am trying to not go there.

Thanks so much! ???
No Life Club Posts: 1,602
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #115 on: December 07, 2018, 06:53:42 PM »
I believe the lights with"R" designation have the charging tailcap and can be charged with magnetic charger, charging base or in a std charger. You can only charge the olight battery that comes with the light through the tailcap, other batterires wont charge in there but you can use them. Some of the others like s1 mini include a rcr123 that have a micro usb port built into the battery, can plug say a iphone wall charger with micro usb cable into them or put in std charger.

I think you are right about this and I just did not understand the designation entirely?

I like the idea of magnetic charging in general but am a little cautious of it at the same time.
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,219
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #116 on: December 07, 2018, 09:25:31 PM »
A local store has them :o where is this store located :ahhh well if you dont mind me asking  ;) if you dont want to just PM me and I will see if I am close to it at all :salute:
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Which Olight next?
« Reply #117 on: December 07, 2018, 09:28:19 PM »
I believe the lights with"R" designation have the charging tailcap and can be charged with magnetic charger, charging base or in a std charger. You can only charge the olight battery that comes with the light through the tailcap, other batterires wont charge in there but you can use them. Some of the others like s1 mini include a rcr123 that have a micro usb port built into the battery, can plug say a iphone wall charger with micro usb cable into them or put in std charger.

I think you are right about this and I just did not understand the designation entirely?

I like the idea of magnetic charging in general but am a little cautious of it at the same time.

It's only the S1R afaik that has a strange battery, it has both positive and negative one one end. All the the other tail-cap re chargers will accept any RCR as they meet the same specs as the olight cells

« Last Edit: December 07, 2018, 09:29:54 PM by Smashie »

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No Life Club Posts: 1,602
Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #118 on: December 07, 2018, 09:50:55 PM »
A local store has them :o where is this store located :ahhh well if you dont mind me asking  ;) if you dont want to just PM me and I will see if I am close to it at all :salute:

Looks like I am safe anyway,the Neutral Version is out of stock!

Whew :dunno:

https://www.gpknives.com/olight-m2r-warrior-rechargeable-1500-lumen-flashlight-cool-white.html
« Last Edit: December 07, 2018, 09:52:34 PM by ezdog »
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Re: Which Olight next?
« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2018, 09:20:01 AM »
this looks like a good deal Poncho, it's a little tough to tell what is included but looks like they are including the charging tailcap, battery, charger, case and multiple headbands, you may be able to use that scratch off coupon that came with the free lights as well:

https://www.olightstore.com/led-flashlights/olight-h1-bundle

BB :B:

 

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