Difference in the Cellidor and Nylon Models.

[Zhenchok]

Hi I ordered the Climber II off Amazon today and wanted to know if there is an actual difference between the Cellidor and the Nylon scales models.  I read that it is the same it's just the Nylon is the economy version and the emblem is painted on the Nylon model . But the price difference between the two is incredible, considering that the Nylon scales are more robust.


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[Don Pablo]

No practical difference besides the scales. Amazon can be strange with pricing.

[an0nemus]

Cellidor's emblem is permanent; while Nylon's will easily fade.


Nylon is more scratch-resistant than Cellidor.


I'm assuming that Nylon is cheaper for Victorinox than Cellidor.


Not sure if Nylon comes in other colors other than red 


Personally, I like Cellidor better 

[Don Pablo]

I personally think that Nylon is about the same cost as Celidor to make. 
After all, the price of the bulk material (both kinds) should be negligible compared to what they sell the scales for, and the cost of the machines are probably the same.

[kottskrapa]

The nylon comes in black and stayglow as well. The big difference except material and feeling of course is that celidor has the hole for a straight pin. Nylon does not. At least mine doesn't

It's not failure if you learn something from it

[GoatDragon]

I believe that nylon scales lack the little slot for the straight pin. I have also head they are more durable than Celidor. And as others have mentioned, the Vic logo is hot stamped instead of embossed. Some people on here say they prefer nylon scales, some prefer celidor. Let us know what you think of it when you get your hands on it!

[an0nemus]

My first Nylon was a Recruit that I soon gave to my sister.


There's a Waiter being sold for $8, but I didn't buy it because: (1) I already have a Bantam; (2) it came with Nylon scales 

[Zhenchok]

Thanks guys,  I know I will like the Nylon.  Especially for $15 bucks for a brand new Climber on Amazon now. Many of the Nylon models are almost half off.


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[Steinar]

The difference between Eco models and that standard line, apart from the Nylon, is the QA stage. Each and every knife in the standard line as manually checked, while there are only spot checks in the Eco line. But, as the Vic production line is so reliable, people “never” notice any difference.

I actually prefer Nylon over Cellidor, but I avoid the Eco line since I support the thorough QA stage. I get my Nylon fix from my 111 mm knives. 

[Don Pablo]

The difference between Eco models and that standard line, apart from the Nylon, is the QA stage. Each and every knife in the standard line as manually checked, while there are only spot checks in the Eco line. But, as the Vic production line is so reliable, people “never” notice any difference.

I actually prefer Nylon over Cellidor, but I avoid the Eco line since I support the thorough QA stage. I get my Nylon fix from my 111 mm knives. 

Interesting, where did you hear that? 

[Steinar]

Some official statement from Victorinox, but I'm not able to find it again right now. (Especially since the Vic web site has gone through several generations over the years since the introduction of the Ecoline knives.)

Edit: And while the above statement utterly destroys my credibility in Internet terms, a quick forum search shows quite a few other forum members saying the same thing.

[an0nemus]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

[Mechanickal]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:

[Don Pablo]

Some official statement from Victorinox, but I'm not able to find it again right now. (Especially since the Vic web site has gone through several generations over the years since the introduction of the Ecoline knives.)

Edit: And while the above statement utterly destroys my credibility in Internet terms, a quick forum search shows quite a few other forum members saying the same thing.

Alright, I'll let it slide this time. Next time, provide sources... Or else. 


 

[an0nemus]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

[Don Pablo]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   

[an0nemus]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

[Mechanickal]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

None taken.
It looks kinda dull because of being worn in my pockets during work.
But I can guarantee you, when freshly polished they shine like a true celidor.
They are a more vivid, bright red compared to the curent darker red colour.

They've been taken from a ecoline SAK with a rare tang stamp that was used only in '75.

[an0nemus]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   (Image removed from quote.)

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

None taken.
It looks kinda dull because of being worn in my pockets during work.
But I can guarantee you, when freshly polished they shine like a true celidor.
They are a more vivid, bright red compared to the curent darker red colour.

They've been taken from a ecoline SAK with a rare tang stamp that was used only in '75.

The pic makes it look like matte. The logo has been totally erased. Just out of curiosity, why not replace the scales?

[Mechanickal]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   (Image removed from quote.)

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

None taken.
It looks kinda dull because of being worn in my pockets during work.
But I can guarantee you, when freshly polished they shine like a true celidor.
They are a more vivid, bright red compared to the curent darker red colour.

They've been taken from a ecoline SAK with a rare tang stamp that was used only in '75.

The pic makes it look like matte. The logo has been totally erased. Just out of curiosity, why not replace the scales?

The old, rare tang stamped, ecoline Camper got some nice custom wood burl scales to make it display-worthy.

This Huntsman was a freebie from a guy who sells TSA seized SAKs to me .
I could have it for parts and it came without scales.
After cleaning it up it showed ZERO use apart from a stumped main blade.
After reprofiling the main blade I placed the ONLY spare scales on that I had, which were these.
The scales were severely scratched so I sanded the scratches out and repolished them, meaning I had to give up on the little bit remaining logo that was left.

Still looking for some affordable spare scales in the meantime.

I can find them at decent prizes on Ebay but the shipping costs are insane!
Best deal so far is on the MTO store so might need to go from there...


So, if anyone has some spare scales: feel free to PM me with cost+shipping

Oh and before I forget, here's a pic of the reprofiled blade:

[Mechanickal]

Howly S this SAK became dirty from those few weeks in my work pocket...

[an0nemus]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   (Image removed from quote.)

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

None taken.
It looks kinda dull because of being worn in my pockets during work.
But I can guarantee you, when freshly polished they shine like a true celidor.
They are a more vivid, bright red compared to the curent darker red colour.

They've been taken from a ecoline SAK with a rare tang stamp that was used only in '75.

The pic makes it look like matte. The logo has been totally erased. Just out of curiosity, why not replace the scales?

The old, rare tang stamped, ecoline Camper got some nice custom wood burl scales to make it display-worthy.

This Huntsman was a freebie from a guy who sells TSA seized SAKs to me .
I could have it for parts and it came without scales.
After cleaning it up it showed ZERO use apart from a stumped main blade.
After reprofiling the main blade I placed the ONLY spare scales on that I had, which were these.
The scales were severely scratched so I sanded the scratches out and repolished them, meaning I had to give up on the little bit remaining logo that was left.

Still looking for some affordable spare scales in the meantime.

I can find them at decent prizes on Ebay but the shipping costs are insane!
Best deal so far is on the MTO store so might need to go from there...


So, if anyone has some spare scales: feel free to PM me with cost+shipping

Oh and before I forget, here's a pic of the reprofiled blade:
(Image removed from quote.)

I see! It's also a good candidate for some custom material like copper or G10 scales. Aren't there any near your country there in Europe?

[Mechanickal]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   (Image removed from quote.)

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

None taken.
It looks kinda dull because of being worn in my pockets during work.
But I can guarantee you, when freshly polished they shine like a true celidor.
They are a more vivid, bright red compared to the curent darker red colour.

They've been taken from a ecoline SAK with a rare tang stamp that was used only in '75.

The pic makes it look like matte. The logo has been totally erased. Just out of curiosity, why not replace the scales?

The old, rare tang stamped, ecoline Camper got some nice custom wood burl scales to make it display-worthy.

This Huntsman was a freebie from a guy who sells TSA seized SAKs to me .
I could have it for parts and it came without scales.
After cleaning it up it showed ZERO use apart from a stumped main blade.
After reprofiling the main blade I placed the ONLY spare scales on that I had, which were these.
The scales were severely scratched so I sanded the scratches out and repolished them, meaning I had to give up on the little bit remaining logo that was left.

Still looking for some affordable spare scales in the meantime.

I can find them at decent prizes on Ebay but the shipping costs are insane!
Best deal so far is on the MTO store so might need to go from there...


So, if anyone has some spare scales: feel free to PM me with cost+shipping

Oh and before I forget, here's a pic of the reprofiled blade:
(Image removed from quote.)

I see! It's also a good candidate for some custom material like copper or G10 scales. Aren't there any near your country there in Europe?

Not that I found yet...

[an0nemus]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   (Image removed from quote.)

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

None taken.
It looks kinda dull because of being worn in my pockets during work.
But I can guarantee you, when freshly polished they shine like a true celidor.
They are a more vivid, bright red compared to the curent darker red colour.

They've been taken from a ecoline SAK with a rare tang stamp that was used only in '75.

The pic makes it look like matte. The logo has been totally erased. Just out of curiosity, why not replace the scales?

The old, rare tang stamped, ecoline Camper got some nice custom wood burl scales to make it display-worthy.

This Huntsman was a freebie from a guy who sells TSA seized SAKs to me .
I could have it for parts and it came without scales.
After cleaning it up it showed ZERO use apart from a stumped main blade.
After reprofiling the main blade I placed the ONLY spare scales on that I had, which were these.
The scales were severely scratched so I sanded the scratches out and repolished them, meaning I had to give up on the little bit remaining logo that was left.

Still looking for some affordable spare scales in the meantime.

I can find them at decent prizes on Ebay but the shipping costs are insane!
Best deal so far is on the MTO store so might need to go from there...


So, if anyone has some spare scales: feel free to PM me with cost+shipping

Oh and before I forget, here's a pic of the reprofiled blade:
(Image removed from quote.)

I see! It's also a good candidate for some custom material like copper or G10 scales. Aren't there any near your country there in Europe?

Not that I found yet...

Not even in Switzerland? 

[Mechanickal]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   (Image removed from quote.)

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

None taken.
It looks kinda dull because of being worn in my pockets during work.
But I can guarantee you, when freshly polished they shine like a true celidor.
They are a more vivid, bright red compared to the curent darker red colour.

They've been taken from a ecoline SAK with a rare tang stamp that was used only in '75.

The pic makes it look like matte. The logo has been totally erased. Just out of curiosity, why not replace the scales?

The old, rare tang stamped, ecoline Camper got some nice custom wood burl scales to make it display-worthy.

This Huntsman was a freebie from a guy who sells TSA seized SAKs to me .
I could have it for parts and it came without scales.
After cleaning it up it showed ZERO use apart from a stumped main blade.
After reprofiling the main blade I placed the ONLY spare scales on that I had, which were these.
The scales were severely scratched so I sanded the scratches out and repolished them, meaning I had to give up on the little bit remaining logo that was left.

Still looking for some affordable spare scales in the meantime.

I can find them at decent prizes on Ebay but the shipping costs are insane!
Best deal so far is on the MTO store so might need to go from there...


So, if anyone has some spare scales: feel free to PM me with cost+shipping

Oh and before I forget, here's a pic of the reprofiled blade:
(Image removed from quote.)

I see! It's also a good candidate for some custom material like copper or G10 scales. Aren't there any near your country there in Europe?

Not that I found yet...

Not even in Switzerland? 

CH is expensive for us Europeans since they're not part of the EU.
All I can do anyway is to just browse the offerings on Ebay after searching for "91mm scale"

[an0nemus]

I learned somewhere that the Ecoline prior to the early 80s were actually made of Cellidors but without the T&T

Confirmed:
(Image removed from quote.)

that looks like Nylon? 

I think that Mechanickal can tell the difference?   (Image removed from quote.)

Opps! Dont mean to offend 

None taken.
It looks kinda dull because of being worn in my pockets during work.
But I can guarantee you, when freshly polished they shine like a true celidor.
They are a more vivid, bright red compared to the curent darker red colour.

They've been taken from a ecoline SAK with a rare tang stamp that was used only in '75.

The pic makes it look like matte. The logo has been totally erased. Just out of curiosity, why not replace the scales?

The old, rare tang stamped, ecoline Camper got some nice custom wood burl scales to make it display-worthy.

This Huntsman was a freebie from a guy who sells TSA seized SAKs to me .
I could have it for parts and it came without scales.
After cleaning it up it showed ZERO use apart from a stumped main blade.
After reprofiling the main blade I placed the ONLY spare scales on that I had, which were these.
The scales were severely scratched so I sanded the scratches out and repolished them, meaning I had to give up on the little bit remaining logo that was left.

Still looking for some affordable spare scales in the meantime.

I can find them at decent prizes on Ebay but the shipping costs are insane!
Best deal so far is on the MTO store so might need to go from there...


So, if anyone has some spare scales: feel free to PM me with cost+shipping

Oh and before I forget, here's a pic of the reprofiled blade:
(Image removed from quote.)

I see! It's also a good candidate for some custom material like copper or G10 scales. Aren't there any near your country there in Europe?

Not that I found yet...

Not even in Switzerland? 

CH is expensive for us Europeans since they're not part of the EU.
All I can do anyway is to just browse the offerings on Ebay after searching for "91mm scale"

Or MTO Store for us

[ThundahBeagle]

Zhenchok

I also took advantage of Amazon's sale that day. Seems the nylon scaled "II" version of everything normally runs $4-$8 cheaper than the ABS cellidor version on any normal day. Amazon's "outdoors" sale on the 4th further reduced the prices of nylon scaled models. I picked up a Camper II, which arrived today, for $15. Nice. As you mentioned, I heard the nylon scales are tougher, and I thought I would like that. Wish they inlaid the metal symbol, though, but really, small price to pay...s But seeing the Camper II,  I bet the same type of incident that might chip or flake or remove a cellidor would probably just scratch or gouge a nylon scale. Plus the nylon scale seems like it would be more "grip-able" when wet. Couldn't find a "Hiker II." I wish they sold them all with this option. Then I would gift nice-looking cellidors, and buy inexpensive nylon types for my own use