Leatherman & Politics

665ae · **Reply #30 on:** October 29, 2008, 03:49:19 PM

Quote from: SteveRacer on October 29, 2008, 02:25:30 PM

I own a Mac 90 (Chinese AK-47 clone) and I think it's a pretty good rifle in a lot of ways... that doesn't make me a communist! And I doubt the folks that stamped out the parts or assembled the gun are anywhere similar in their political views.

No, it makes you a SoSmurfpillst! You should have bought Romanian... or a Yugo!

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I just read that Chris Reeve is a close buddy with Hugo Chavez. Anyone care to send me their wicked, tainted, traitor Sebenzas for proper disposal ??

If I had a Sebenza, I would be happy to send it to you. After I smash it, break it in half, burn it, toss it on the ground, and piss on it.

duckman1975 · **Reply #31 on:** October 29, 2008, 03:53:28 PM

Quote from: Benner on October 29, 2008, 12:58:48 PM

Quote from: duckman1975 on October 29, 2008, 10:18:05 AM
Wish LM would not let their products be made in China, we have way too much made in China products already.......
Lets spread the wealth!

Not sure if you are joking there or not, but they don't.

Sorry I meant I wish leatherman would not let the pressure of cheap labor on China to move their operations there. US labor is not cheap but the quality is priceless!

Gadget Guy · **Reply #32 on:** October 29, 2008, 04:53:44 PM

Quote from: duckman1975 on October 29, 2008, 03:53:28 PM

Quote from: Benner on October 29, 2008, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: duckman1975 on October 29, 2008, 10:18:05 AM
Wish LM would not let their products be made in China, we have way too much made in China products already.......
Lets spread the wealth!

Not sure if you are joking there or not, but they don't.
Sorry I meant I wish leatherman would not let the pressure of cheap labor on China to move their operations there. US labor is not cheap but the quality is priceless!

If Leatherman has their products made in China, I'm done with them. I think Gerber is a good example of why I feel this way. Nothing at all against the Chinese people, but the quality simply isn't there yet. Therere a couple of good products made in China. The Spyderco Byrd line is an example of a fairly good Chinese made product. I just can't imagine a Chinese Leatherman.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #33 on:** October 29, 2008, 05:33:12 PM

Much of CRKT's line is made in China. Good stuff can be made in China, it's just that us cheap buggers on the other side of the planet don't want to spend money. I have seen some exceptional tools, especially SAK knockoffs from China that are very good quality.

Def

Dunc · **Reply #34 on:** October 29, 2008, 06:48:15 PM

Quote from: 665ae on October 29, 2008, 03:49:19 PM

Quote from: SteveRacer on October 29, 2008, 02:25:30 PM
I own a Mac 90 (Chinese AK-47 clone) and I think it's a pretty good rifle in a lot of ways... that doesn't make me a communist! And I doubt the folks that stamped out the parts or assembled the gun are anywhere similar in their political views.

No, it makes you a SoSmurfpillst! You should have bought Romanian... or a Yugo!

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I just read that Chris Reeve is a close buddy with Hugo Chavez. Anyone care to send me their wicked, tainted, traitor Sebenzas for proper disposal ??

If I had a Sebenza, I would be happy to send it to you. After I smash it, break it in half, burn it, toss it on the ground, and piss on it.

Who is Hugo Chavez ? and more importantly how is he going to stop my Sebenza cutting like one of the best knives in the world ?

As for Tim Leathermans politics

If you don't agree then go out and buy a lesser quality brand . When it fails and leaves you in the sh*t at least you can rest easy that you didnt support Tim .

Dunc

Splat · **Reply #35 on:** October 29, 2008, 08:38:10 PM

Quote from: dunc5 on October 29, 2008, 06:48:15 PM

As for Tim Leathermans politics If you don't agree then go out and buy a lesser quality brand . When it fails and leaves you in the sh*t at least you can rest easy that you didnt support Tim .

Or, just go buy a SwissTool!

Then you have no worries.

NeitherExtreme · **Reply #36 on:** October 29, 2008, 08:41:56 PM

Thanks for the input everyone.

So it seems like the collective knowledge of The Forum says that:

1) All the rumors probably started from that environment-based Kerry endorsement that was signed by Tim.
2) We don't care.

I guess that's all I need to know.

WhichDawg · **Reply #37 on:** October 29, 2008, 08:51:15 PM

thanks NE!

SteveRacer · **Reply #38 on:** October 29, 2008, 09:51:18 PM

Quote from: dunc5 on October 29, 2008, 06:48:15 PM

Who is Hugo Chavez ? and more importantly how is he going to stop my Sebenza cutting like one of the best knives in the world ?

He kicks puppies, doesn't floss regularly, works as a telemarketer, and cuts ahead of everyone in the checkout line -- with more than 12 items.

I'll PM my address where you can turn in your Sebenza(s). Your compliance is noted and appreciated.

-steve

american lockpicker · **Reply #39 on:** October 30, 2008, 12:56:52 AM

I don't think Tim Leathermans anti-gun as one of his tools(the one w/ green and black handles)is designed for hunters and has a tool for shotgun chokes.

Leatherman123 · **Reply #40 on:** October 30, 2008, 01:08:01 AM

Leatherman Vista

Styerman · **Reply #41 on:** October 30, 2008, 02:53:44 AM

As usual a pantfull from start to finish. He's just a concerned environentalist , as well he should be as he markets a lot of product to the outdoor and hook and bullet crowd.

Chris

BIG-TARGET · **Reply #42 on:** October 30, 2008, 04:18:05 AM

Quote from: SteveRacer on October 29, 2008, 09:51:18 PM

Quote from: dunc5 on October 29, 2008, 06:48:15 PM
Who is Hugo Chavez ? and more importantly how is he going to stop my Sebenza cutting like one of the best knives in the world ?

He kicks puppies, doesn't floss regularly, works as a telemarketer, and cuts ahead of everyone in the checkout line -- with more than 12 items.

I'll PM my address where you can turn in your Sebenza(s). Your compliance is noted and appreciated.

-steve

Hugo Chavez is the president of Venezuela. A devout marxist

665ae · **Reply #43 on:** October 30, 2008, 05:23:54 AM

Quote from: BIG-TARGET on October 30, 2008, 04:18:05 AM

Quote from: SteveRacer on October 29, 2008, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: dunc5 on October 29, 2008, 06:48:15 PM
Who is Hugo Chavez ? and more importantly how is he going to stop my Sebenza cutting like one of the best knives in the world ?

He kicks puppies, doesn't floss regularly, works as a telemarketer, and cuts ahead of everyone in the checkout line -- with more than 12 items.

I'll PM my address where you can turn in your Sebenza(s). Your compliance is noted and appreciated.

-steve

Hugo Chavez is the president of Venezuela. A devout marxist

Stop being insensitive...

SteveRacer · **Reply #44 on:** October 30, 2008, 10:49:07 AM

Quote from: 665ae on October 30, 2008, 05:23:54 AM

Stop being insensitive...

Indeed. Unless you are filling you tank at a Citgo station at Sebenza knifepoint.

-steve

Splat · **Reply #45 on:** October 31, 2008, 06:31:08 AM

Quote from: SteveRacer on October 29, 2008, 09:51:18 PM

He kicks puppies, doesn't floss regularly, works as a telemarketer, and cuts ahead of everyone in the checkout line -- with more than 12 items.

That was friggin' great, Steve!

Thanks for the bellyache!

Rob · **Reply #46 on:** October 31, 2008, 05:34:44 PM

Funny that this is being talked about since I very recently had a reason to question this. I could care less what a man and his company think politically as long as they aren't extremist and overly pushing their agenda. Nobody likes that. Tim and LM are not that so I'm cool with not having the exact same views as them. Hey that's living in a free society and we should all cherish that ability. So onto my conundrum. Recently I've had the opportunity to see about having a gun tactical light mount fabricated for use with a small LED flashlight and I really want to have the new LM S3 be the host for it but I've been leary of contacting LM for a sample unit since I too have always felt they weren't hip on guns. In the end it's business for them so I can't see them shying away from it but at the same time I'm guessing it's not their favorite part of the market.

american lockpicker · **Reply #47 on:** October 31, 2008, 05:50:30 PM

On the Vista they put a gun accessory so I couldn't see them not wanting to help you with mounting a flashlight on your gun.

Styerman · **Reply #48 on:** October 31, 2008, 06:14:17 PM

Leatherman sells lots to LE and Military. Shouldnt. Phase him.

Chris

AndyTiedye · **Reply #49 on:** October 31, 2008, 11:51:40 PM

This thread is making me want to buy another Leatherman.

american lockpicker · **Reply #50 on:** November 01, 2008, 02:14:09 AM

I recommend the Wave.

ducktapehero · **Reply #51 on:** November 01, 2008, 04:37:12 PM

As a libertarian, if I boycotted products because the people making them supported the Republican or the Democratic parties I wouldn't be able to buy anything.

appletree_man · **Reply #52 on:** November 09, 2008, 06:34:22 PM

I was reminded on another thread how many Americans stopped buying French goods a few years back

SteveRacer · **Reply #53 on:** November 09, 2008, 06:49:56 PM

Quote from: appletree_man on November 09, 2008, 06:34:22 PM

Americans stopped buying French goods a few years back

Word.

I shoved a rag into a bottle of Grey Goose, ignited it with the ember of my Gauloise, and threw it through the windshield of my Citroen. I must admit I kept the "maid"...

-steve

american lockpicker · **Reply #54 on:** November 10, 2008, 01:23:20 AM

Quote from: appletree_man on November 09, 2008, 06:34:22 PM

I was reminded on another thread how many Americans stopped buying French goods a few years back

Not buying French products is insane why would someone be against something from France?

NeitherExtreme · **Reply #55 on:** November 10, 2008, 01:25:35 AM

Quote from: american lockpicker on November 10, 2008, 01:23:20 AM

Quote from: appletree_man on November 09, 2008, 06:34:22 PM
I was reminded on another thread how many Americans stopped buying French goods a few years back

Not buying French products is insane why would someone be against something from France?

It was a short lived reactionary fad, I think mostly fueled by France's disapproval of our invasion of Iraq or Afganistan. It didn't last long.