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Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools 48040

Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 71,167
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #180 on: September 07, 2021, 12:00:42 PM »
Excellent mods fellas !   :like:

 :iagree: Digging all these new mods lately and I am glad to see some new faces to LM modding 8) :like: :like:

:nanadance:           :nanadance:
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 57,184
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #181 on: September 07, 2021, 01:50:42 PM »
 :iagree:

What acid did you use for the BO  ?
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #182 on: September 07, 2021, 07:19:23 PM »
:iagree:

What acid did you use for the BO  ?

A mix of ferric chloride etchant solution and white vinegar.
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #183 on: October 30, 2021, 10:34:19 PM »
Tool Name: Rebar EX
Tool Basis: Leatherman Rebar
Aim: To adapt the toolset to my EDC needs
Mods: Removed lanyard, Phillips driver, awl, and some washers. Installed Surge large bit holder, Ozark Trail Multiforce scissors and can opener, Bercol awl. Modified large straight drive into a chisel, medium straight driver into package opener and scraper.
Link: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,88311.0.html

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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #184 on: October 30, 2021, 11:21:10 PM »
Tool Name: Knifeless PST
Tool Basis: PST
Aim: To adapt the toolset to my EDC needs
Mods: Acid etched handles with ferric chloride, added pocket clip, reshaped knife blade into awl, removed existing awl and file and replaced them with Ozark Trail Multiforce scissors and diamond file
Link: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,88245.0.html


Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 71,167
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #185 on: October 31, 2021, 01:52:01 PM »
Great entries,  Adam :salute: :like: :like:
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 57,184
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #186 on: October 31, 2021, 01:54:53 PM »
 :iagree: :like: :tu:
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #187 on: October 31, 2021, 02:48:09 PM »
Thanks guys!  :hatsoff:
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How to create a heavy-duty multitool
« Reply #188 on: December 23, 2021, 12:50:26 PM »
Hi, everyone,

I've been dealing with a fundamental consideration for a long time: A problem with almost all multitools is that their fold-out screwdrivers, files and saw blades are not really strong. Anyone who tries to loosen a really tight screw with a hinged screwdriver will often end up with a wobbly or broken tool. The files and saws become blunt after regular use or snap off occasionally.

So do multitools necessarily have to be „toys“ that aren't made for really hard work? This is my try to come up with an alternative:

I used a cheap China tool as a basis - not because of its (questionable) high load capacity, but rather because of its low price. First of all, it should only be a design study and my financial resources are limited.
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #189 on: December 23, 2021, 12:52:20 PM »
I removed all tools and instead inserted a solid steel block on one side, which fitted and screwed exactly into the handle and is additionally riveted with two pins. A quarter inch insert is pinned into the block. With it I can use quarter inch sockets and, with a bit holder, all common screwdriver bits. The axial load limit is now no longer with the axis of the folding tools, but with the torsional stiffness of the pliers handle into which the steel block is inserted.
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #190 on: December 23, 2021, 12:53:43 PM »
In the other pliers handle I inserted a Bosch system jigsaw blade holder I designed myself. It consists of an M-10 bolt that has been drilled out to 6.3 mm. An M-10 cap nut was modified accordingly to clamp the saw blade in place. This means that all available saw blade types can now be used in the tool. It is not difficult to grind a file blade so that it can be accommodated by the jigsaw blade holder. Then files can also be used.
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #191 on: December 23, 2021, 12:55:21 PM »
I carry the tool in a belt pouch, along with a selection of bits, a quarter inch bit holder as well as several saw blades and files. With it I can do all the work that can be done by using a conventional multitool. But mine is much more sturdy in comparison. OK, the complete set in the belt pouch weighs around 450 grams - the „toys“ are of course more comfortable to edc! :D
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #192 on: December 25, 2021, 02:34:05 AM »
Interesting modifications.  What are the red and yellow "flags" on the belt pouch?  450 grams (16 ounces) is too heavy for me.   :(

Retired engineer, author.

A man with one multitool always knows exactly which to use. A man with many multitools is never quite sure. - parnass
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #193 on: December 25, 2021, 07:30:18 AM »
Interesting modifications.  What are the red and yellow "flags" on the belt pouch?  450 grams (16 ounces) is too heavy for me.   :(

Yes, I'm not happy with the weight too. Gonna do an improved version one day. But the problem is, when you want it to be ultra strong, you seem to always end up with quite a heavy load on your belt.

The yellow and red "flags" are saw blades covered in electrical tape. To prevent the saw teeth from damaging the cordura and to distinguish metal- from wood-blades.

Merry Christmas to you
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #194 on: December 25, 2021, 11:11:41 AM »
Merry Christmas! Thanks for posting this nice mod case study which will last you longer than you want it to by the looks of it  :tu:

Cheers!
Dutch_Tooler

Location: Southern Germany, most of the time
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 71,167
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #195 on: December 27, 2021, 12:24:10 AM »
A very interesting mod :salute: Good idea and you are heading in a good direction with it, just needs a bit of refinement and something to lighten it up a bit :think: :like: :like:
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #196 on: December 27, 2021, 12:56:06 PM »
Whenver I carry the tool, I never move near water - if I fall into it, the weight will inevitably pull me down. ;)

Joking aside, there is a fine line to walk between stability and weight. Most of the factory-made tools I had in my hand so far in my opinion  weren't resilient enough. Hand on heart: How often have you wanted to loosen a stuck screw and stopped trying for fear of damaging the good tool? The ideal multitool should be just as resilient as a "real" tool, shouldn't it?
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 57,184
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #197 on: December 27, 2021, 01:44:55 PM »
Cool mod derheim !   :like:
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 71,167
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #198 on: December 29, 2021, 01:20:14 AM »
Whenver I carry the tool, I never move near water - if I fall into it, the weight will inevitably pull me down. ;)

Joking aside, there is a fine line to walk between stability and weight. Most of the factory-made tools I had in my hand so far in my opinion  weren't resilient enough. Hand on heart: How often have you wanted to loosen a stuck screw and stopped trying for fear of damaging the good tool? The ideal multitool should be just as resilient as a "real" tool, shouldn't it?

Yes they should :salute: but I am the guy who breaks 15/16 inch wrenches :facepalm: :D
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #199 on: December 29, 2021, 01:50:41 AM »
Yes they should :salute: but I am the guy who breaks 15/16 inch wrenches :facepalm: :D

It's a wrench, not a hammer  :facepalm:
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #200 on: December 30, 2021, 09:55:22 PM »
If titanium wasn't so expensive, it could be used more widely to save weight when manufacturing parts of a multitool.

Retired engineer, author.

A man with one multitool always knows exactly which to use. A man with many multitools is never quite sure. - parnass
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #201 on: December 31, 2021, 03:07:25 AM »
If titanium wasn't so expensive, it could be used more widely to save weight when manufacturing parts of a multitool.

And used "wisely" : LM Charge TTi has ... Titanium, but is heavier that the Wave, for no added (relevant) feature
(But it is a cool tool, and that alone is enough)
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 57,184
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #202 on: January 04, 2022, 01:36:07 PM »
And used "wisely" : LM Charge TTi has ... Titanium, but is heavier that the Wave, for no added (relevant) feature
(But it is a cool tool, and that alone is enough)

The original TTI is lighter than the Wave, not sure about the newer one.

 
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Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 57,184
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #204 on: January 05, 2022, 10:33:11 AM »
I should not have made general case of the specific  :pok:
nevermind, here are mine :

Charge XTi from 2004 (I don't have the original Ti) : 228g/8.04oz
Charge + TTi from 2019 : 251g/8.85oz (replaceable wire cutters AND steel washers used instead of Ti cast may increase weight)
New Wave from 2013 : 244g/8.61g

I have noticed that the metal spring piece that locks blades shot where using pliers and helps closing the pliers head when folding the MT changed quite a lot other the years and it may well be one of the the cause of weight increase
That, and the changes in build process for the charge (I am looking for an early "new design" Charge, but I think that the transition from cast titanium to steel washers is very recent)

We may make a dedicated thread for this ?

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Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 57,184
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #205 on: January 05, 2022, 03:08:38 PM »
I should not have made general case of the specific  :pok:
nevermind, here are mine :

Charge XTi from 2004 (I don't have the original Ti) : 228g/8.04oz
Charge + TTi from 2019 : 251g/8.85oz (replaceable wire cutters AND steel washers used instead of Ti cast may increase weight)
New Wave from 2013 : 244g/8.61g

I have noticed that the metal spring piece that locks blades shot where using pliers and helps closing the pliers head when folding the MT changed quite a lot other the years and it may well be one of the the cause of weight increase
That, and the changes in build process for the charge (I am looking for an early "new design" Charge, but I think that the transition from cast titanium to steel washers is very recent)

We may make a dedicated thread for this ?


Sure, go for it.  I would put it in the Leatherman forum   :tu:
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #206 on: January 05, 2022, 09:01:16 PM »

Sure, go for it.  I would put it in the Leatherman forum   :tu:

here it is :)
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,88668.msg2308867.html#msg2308867

what are the manufacturing years of your Wave and Charge TTi please?
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 57,184
Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #207 on: January 06, 2022, 02:03:45 PM »
here it is :)
https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,88668.msg2308867.html#msg2308867

what are the manufacturing years of your Wave and Charge TTi please?

TTi is  0807 1107   236g/8.25oz  Wave is  0617 0917    242g/8.47oz     Charge+ 1018    238g/8.40oz   BO Wave 1213  244g/8.61oz


Original Wave  0699  223g/7.87oz
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #208 on: January 06, 2022, 04:15:28 PM »
thx !
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Re: Showcase: Mods to plier-based multitools
« Reply #209 on: January 12, 2022, 04:20:24 AM »

For work everyday I carry the Leatherman Surge.  The tools I use the most are pliers, screwdrivers, knife, awl and scissors.  The big selling factor between the Wave and the Surge to me was the blade exchanger.  But in reality I was barely ever using it.  So after seeing thousands of mods you all have done so well I bought the cheapest scalpel handle with included blades off ebay for around $5.  I traced the out line of the t shank removable saw and began grinding the handle of the scalpel into the t shank shape.  Surprisingly those scalpel handles are very hard metal.  The handle had to be thinned as well until finally the whole thing fit into the blade exchanger snugly with basically no movement.  The end result is still a bit rough but it works great.  In the future I plan to replace one of the outside blades with a screwdriver so I will not have that many redundant blades. 
   I believe the blade exchanger has a mountain of largely untapped possibilities.  For now I am enjoying a mod I use all the time. 

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