Victorinox steel?

[aikon2014]

1. Do ALL SAK knives have the same steel, no matter what model and size of the blade, with that I mean from the smaller like the classic all the way up to the ranger grip, hunter and hunter pro?
2. Do they use the same steel as the knives for all the tools in all models?

[TennTexan]

I don't know whether they use the same steel across all their different knives, but I do know for certain that they do not use the same steel for all of the tools.  The blade steel is different from the steel used for the metal saw/file, for example.

[dks]

the tempering and resulting hardness is different between the blade and tools.

The blade steel for regular models is the same grade.  Some of the bigger blades that are build for victorinox may have different steel, I think - Victorinox builds apart from the regular lines the hunter pro series and also kitchen knives etc.

[aikon2014]

the tempering and resulting hardness is different between the blade and tools.

The blade steel for regular models is the same grade.  Some of the bigger blades that are build for victorinox may have different steel, I think - Victorinox builds apart from the regular lines the hunter pro series and also kitchen knives etc.

Oh that also makes me remind another question, is the kitchen knives the same steel as the SAK?
I have used alot of Victorinox knives in my job as a chef (used to be a chef) and they were praised for good value, even though the steel is a bit on the soft side and need resharpening alot more often than Wüsthof, Zwilling and Japanese knives in generel.

[Thunderpants]

I have some of their normal eating knives - the steel is harder, I think, than SAK steel. Those serrated edges are monstrously sharp and stay that way for a long time.

[Nick4]

Oh that also makes me remind another question, is the kitchen knives the same steel as the SAK?

In accordance with Victorinox 2017 catalogue, all steel blades are made of martensitic stainless steel.

For pocket knives (SAKs) the following steel alloys are used:

||_MATERIAL NO._ |	|__FOR__|	|_ABBREVIATION DIN_|	|____C (%)____|	|____CR (%)____|	|___MO (%)___|	|_V (%)_||
1.4110	blade	X55CrMo14	0.48 - 0.60	13.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	≤ 0 .15
1.4021	spring	X20Cr13	0.16 - 0.25	12.0 - 14.0
1.4031	tools	X39Cr13	0.36 - 0.42	12.5 - 14.5		0.1 - 0.2

The following steel alloys are used for household and professional knives:

||_MATERIAL NO._ |	|__ABBREVIATION DIN__|	|_ABBREVIATION AISI_|	|____C (%)____|	|____CR (%)____|	|___MO (%)___|	|_V (%)_||
1.4419	X38CrMo14	420	0.38	14	0.80
1.4034	X46Cr13	420	0.43 - 0.50	12.5 - 14.5
1.4116	X50CrMoV15	440A	0.45 - 0.55	14.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	0.1 - 0.2
1.4110	X55CrMo14	440 A	0.48 - 0.60	13.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	≤ 0 .15

But the final hardness depends not only on the alloy used but the heat treatment too.

[Ron Who]

 

[aikon2014]

Does the regular blade and pen blade have the same steel? And do the blade steel on the smaller vics also share the same bladesteel?

[Mechanickal]

Does the regular blade and pen blade have the same steel? And do the blade steel on the smaller vics also share the same bladesteel?

As far as the details above go: yes and yes.

[Reinier]

Cybertool bit holder is made of a different type of steel. Also, they changed it a couple of years ago.

[Gath]

That's interesting Reinier, have any information on why?

[hiraethus]

The cybertool bit driver looks like it's forged from bar stock rather than stamped from sheet, which could explain the difference in material.

[Reinier]

That's interesting Reinier, have any information on why?

No, no idea. But you can see the difference between older and newer Cybertools.

[Mechanickal]

That's interesting Reinier, have any information on why?

No, no idea. But you can see the difference between older and newer Cybertools.

Indeed.
Older bit drivers have a darker tone to them.

[VICMAN]

In accordance with Victorinox 2017 catalogue, all steel blades are made of martensitic stainless steel.

Thanks for posting the information Nick!

[Obi1shinobee]

Oh that also makes me remind another question, is the kitchen knives the same steel as the SAK?

In accordance with Victorinox 2017 catalogue, all steel blades are made of martensitic stainless steel.

For pocket knives (SAKs) the following steel alloys are used:

||_MATERIAL NO._ |	|__FOR__|	|_ABBREVIATION DIN_|	|____C (%)____|	|____CR (%)____|	|___MO (%)___|	|_V (%)_||
1.4110	blade	X55CrMo14	0.48 - 0.60	13.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	≤ 0 .15
1.4021	spring	X20Cr13	0.16 - 0.25	12.0 - 14.0
1.4031	tools	X39Cr13	0.36 - 0.42	12.5 - 14.5		0.1 - 0.2

The following steel alloys are used for household and professional knives:

||_MATERIAL NO._ |	|__ABBREVIATION DIN__|	|_ABBREVIATION AISI_|	|____C (%)____|	|____CR (%)____|	|___MO (%)___|	|_V (%)_||
1.4419	X38CrMo14	420	0.38	14	0.80
1.4034	X46Cr13	420	0.43 - 0.50	12.5 - 14.5
1.4116	X50CrMoV15	440A	0.45 - 0.55	14.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	0.1 - 0.2
1.4110	X55CrMo14	440 A	0.48 - 0.60	13.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	≤ 0 .15

But the final hardness depends not only on the alloy used but the heat treatment too.

 

[Rich S]

Just curious, are any of the tools; awl, phillips; on a Tinker or Deluxe Tinker capable of being used as a car window breaker? I'm thinking maybe a sharpened phillips might work. Any thoughts or experience with the steels/tempering/etc. that might work? What about a Vic sharpening steel?
Thanks
Rich

[Steinar]

I think it's best to stick to carbides for glass breakers. I don't think soft steel like a SAK would be effective.

Edit: Source is personal guesswork and Mythbusters.

[Don Pablo]

Plus they could fold shut.

[ThePeacent]

what's the steel on the Glass Breaker from the rescue tool then?   
and the tweezers' steel is the same as the other implements...?   

[aikon2014]

Speaking of the steel, I noticed that the angle was very thin in the blade of my Ranger Grip 58 hunter, and after I resharpened it to a wider/broader angle, it held an edge about 15-20% longer (utility edge, not the fine edge). Could be a tip since the steel is a little bit softer apparently.

[hard.times.lures]

I have some Victorinox Pruners and Day Packers which I use to whittle with.  They hold a much better edge than do my other Victorinox knives.  I have read that they have a higher rockwell then normal Victorinox knives.  Through use, I can believe it.

[MaverickMCS]

2. Do they use the same steel as the knives for all the tools in all models?

I'm pretty sure that the corkscrew is made of a different metal, with worse resistance to rust.

[MaverickMCS]

Oh that also makes me remind another question, is the kitchen knives the same steel as the SAK?

In accordance with Victorinox 2017 catalogue, all steel blades are made of martensitic stainless steel.

For pocket knives (SAKs) the following steel alloys are used:

||_MATERIAL NO._ |	|__FOR__|	|_ABBREVIATION DIN_|	|____C (%)____|	|____CR (%)____|	|___MO (%)___|	|_V (%)_||
1.4110	blade	X55CrMo14	0.48 - 0.60	13.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	≤ 0 .15
1.4021	spring	X20Cr13	0.16 - 0.25	12.0 - 14.0
1.4031	tools	X39Cr13	0.36 - 0.42	12.5 - 14.5		0.1 - 0.2

The following steel alloys are used for household and professional knives:

||_MATERIAL NO._ |	|__ABBREVIATION DIN__|	|_ABBREVIATION AISI_|	|____C (%)____|	|____CR (%)____|	|___MO (%)___|	|_V (%)_||
1.4419	X38CrMo14	420	0.38	14	0.80
1.4034	X46Cr13	420	0.43 - 0.50	12.5 - 14.5
1.4116	X50CrMoV15	440A	0.45 - 0.55	14.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	0.1 - 0.2
1.4110	X55CrMo14	440 A	0.48 - 0.60	13.0 - 15.0	0.50 - 0.80	≤ 0 .15

But the final hardness depends not only on the alloy used but the heat treatment too.

I have a couple of screenshots that I took from a Vic documentary, where they show the screen right after they test for steel composition (it's a good documentary, Megafactories if I ain't mistaken, can be found on Youtube). It's basically the same info, but I'll post: