SAK / Swisstool dating and identification resources

hiraethus · **on:** February 05, 2018, 10:15:11 AM

Links to MTo SAK dating and identification resources:
Note: Check the most recent posts in the threads for the latest version of the information.....

Dating Resources
Huntsman's - Date your Vic SAKS based on tool evolution
Ulli's - Pictorial Officer's and Soldier's knife evolution
Ulli's - Advertising SAKs with year stamps to help dating
detron's - Victorinox SAK dating info
detron's - Victorinox SAK dating spreadsheet
North Man's - Wenger chronology
Ninjaz (SAAM)'s - Creation of the 91mm Evolution Blog and Phillips dating
kamakiri's - Dating in the '70s using catalogues
SAKWiki Tang Stamp page - with images, evolution and dates - updated by Max and the MTo team

Tool / Feature Specific Resources
Ulli's - Victorinox tang stamps
Ulli's - Wenger tang stamps
SAKWiki Tang Stamp page - with images and evolution - Repeat of link above
Frater Martin's - Let's date the changing of the camping sign
Mactire404's - Writing an article about the magnifying lens, can you help me out?
MiniChamp's - Evolution of wood saws
jazzbass's - Victorinox scale variations and evolution
kamakiri's - SAK Production Errors
kamakiri's - Awl evolution ..... and many other interesting topics (Reply 36)
kamakiri's - Evolution of, and dating, the Grand Prix Inlay
Echotech's - Blade, scissor, saw comparisons

SAK Model Resources
SAKWiki - very helpfully suggested by dks
SAK Selector - link to forum topic
Max Stone's - Journey through the 91mm Family
Max Stone's - 91mm SAK Family Trees
Max Stone's - 111mm SAK Family Tree
LeaF's - 84mm model relationships
LeaF's - 91mm model relationships
NeleDo's - Model Posters by SAK length - See bottom of appropriate SAKWiki menu page eg 91mm
FolderBeholder's - Side-by-side SAK comparisons
M0rkoni's - Vintage SAK Club
Craggus2000's - Exploded SAK images
Fronta's - Pioneer knowledge book
Guardian's - Other countries that issue SAKs to troops
Little Tinker's - Victorinox 91mm pouch sizes by model and layer

Swisstool Resources
Dunc's - Different Swisstool plier heads, the truth
Dunc's - Swisstools the different models

External sites
SAAM's 91mm tool evolution site - One of the first, and a very popular, pictorial blog showing tool evolutions and dates. Creation of this site is discussed in the last link, of the first section of this post
Victorinox Chronology [pdf] - A document from Victorinox on tool evolution - Note: Not all dates are correct!!
sakhome - A private blog containing very detailed and interesting SAK information
Victorinox: Everything you need to know about Multi-tools and cutlery [pdf] - A very interesting document from Victorinox on several Swiss Army Knife topics
Les couteaux du soldat de l'armée suisse - The definitive site on Soldier models. From French enthusiasts. English version via this link

jaya_man · **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2018, 11:07:05 AM

Thanks for this H... nice to have it compiled all in one place... So far been using Ulli’s tang stamp chart and Saam’s tool evolution to date SAKs

If I’m not mistaken, Ulli also shared a chart of Victorinox and Wenger Shield Logos used on scales... just can’t find it...

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hiraethus · **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2018, 12:17:56 PM

Good shout on ulli's Wenger info. This one, I presume: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70421.0.html

hiraethus · **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2018, 12:20:55 PM

Also added Advertising Saks with Year-Stamps to Help Date Tools and Stamps: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70953.0.html

dks · **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2018, 12:24:19 PM

This site is also useful sometimes : http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php

I have no idea which superpower is behind it

jaya_man · **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2018, 01:04:19 PM

Ahhh... Thanks H

Can’t wait for it to be stickied...

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hiraethus · **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2018, 03:09:45 PM

Added a few more links to the first post. I'll tidy it up later.

dks · **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2018, 05:57:14 PM

This demonstrates the issue with being able to go back and edit your posts (there was a thread about this a few days ago) - now my post which was insightful and very useful appears to be the post of someone who dis not read the OP post.

I request to be acknowledged for my contribution !!

hiraethus · **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2018, 06:01:58 PM

better now?

dks · **Reply #9 on:** February 06, 2018, 06:08:23 PM

Proves what children have known for centuries :

If you scream and cry and make a scene you get your own way

MiniChamp · **Reply #10 on:** February 06, 2018, 08:02:56 PM

There is a document by Victorinox titled "Everything you need to know about Multi-tools and cutlery" which is currently available for download at https://www.nyttigbras.dk/nblibrary/victorinox-everything-you-need-to-know-about-multi-tools-and-cutlery.pdf
It contains a lot of relevant information and may be appropriate for linking here. In particular, page B8 of this document has what appears to be a polished version of the "Victorinox Chronology" document. I attach a PDF file with just this page.

Also, the following is an excellent resource on Swiss soldier knives: https://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/

hiraethus · **Reply #11 on:** February 06, 2018, 09:34:30 PM

Thanks MiniChamp; links added to the first post.

El Corkscrew · **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2018, 11:00:18 PM

Nice Work!!!

Huntsman · **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2018, 02:14:47 AM

Thanks for putting our dating threads in a sticky Hiraethus - What an honour !!

Should we be putting a wee note in the first post above, or even in the first post of each original thread to remind readers to check the later pages of the thread for the latest version of the document
Certainly my first version is way, way inferior to the latest one!

Or even copy the latest version to the first post - Maybe not the best option as that means on-going work

hiraethus · **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2018, 10:39:37 PM

They're a great resource, and deserve to be widely used.

I'll add a note about using the latest versions to the first post.

El Corkscrew · **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:43:38 AM

FolderBeholder · **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2018, 04:05:12 PM

Quote from: hiraethus on February 05, 2018, 10:15:11 AM

FolderBeholder's Side-by-side SAK comparisons

I just clicked into this thread for the first time and I'm deeply touched and honored to see my topic amongst your list of such fine resources.
Thank you.

Huntsman · **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2018, 10:34:48 PM

Hey MiniChamp

Thanks for the 'Everything you Needed to Know' link and document - I had never seen that before - It's great

Mactire404 · **Reply #18 on:** March 23, 2018, 11:57:54 AM

Nice! Great set of links!

And a good reminder too

I still have a pocket identification guide in the making.
Might just continue that when I'm back home.

MiniChamp · **Reply #19 on:** March 23, 2018, 03:22:46 PM

Quote from: Huntsman on March 22, 2018, 10:34:48 PM

Hey MiniChamp

Thanks for the 'Everything you Needed to Know' link and document - I had never seen that before - It's great

You’re welcome! Since I have no idea how stable is the link I provided, I wonder if it's possible to make this document available on SAKWiki.

hiraethus · **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2018, 11:09:25 PM

Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 22, 2018, 04:05:12 PM

I just clicked into this thread for the first time and I'm deeply touched and honored to see my topic amongst your list of such fine resources.
Thank you.

You're very welcome. It's a great thread and full of good info that happened to catch my eye while looking for SAK comparisons.

tango44 · **Reply #21 on:** April 05, 2018, 10:14:19 PM

Great info, but there is no way to identify on what year my swisstool was made???

Huntsman · **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2018, 02:32:45 AM

Try the information on the plier heads in the History section

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=SwissTool#History

ThePeacent · **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2018, 12:30:52 PM

Quote from: tango44 on April 05, 2018, 10:14:19 PM

Great info, but there is no way to identify on what year my swisstool was made???

there's also this very thorough thread

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,2463.0.html

El Corkscrew · **Reply #24 on:** April 08, 2018, 04:28:58 AM

This forum is just the best, ain't it?

ThePeacent · **Reply #25 on:** April 08, 2018, 03:50:09 PM

Quote from: El Corkscrew on April 08, 2018, 04:28:58 AM

This forum is just the best, ain't it?

no doubt

hiraethus · **Reply #26 on:** April 09, 2018, 06:14:53 PM

Quote from: El Corkscrew on April 08, 2018, 04:28:58 AM

This forum is just the best, ain't it?

Amen brother.

hiraethus · **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2018, 03:16:51 PM

First post updated with links that were previously stickies - cleaning up the front page of the Swiss Army Knights Forum.

Huntsman · **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2018, 12:15:30 AM

Very neat !!

Huntsman · **Reply #29 on:** May 07, 2019, 02:45:27 AM

Hi Guys
The list at the top of this thread was getting a bit long - So I have organised it into sections
Any suggestions/comments/feedback gratefully received

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