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wales Offline hiraethus

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SAK / Swisstool dating and identification resources
on: February 05, 2018, 10:15:11 AM
Links to MTo SAK dating and identification resources:
Note: Check the most recent posts in the threads for the latest version of the information.....

Dating Resources
Date your Vic SAKs based on tool evolution - Huntsman
Pictorial Officer's and Soldier's knife evolution - Ulli
Advertising SAKs with year stamps to help dating - Ulli
Victorinox SAK dating info - detron
Victorinox SAK dating spreadsheet - detron
Wenger chronology - North Man
Creation of the 91mm Evolution Blog and Phillips dating - Ninjaz (SAAMs)
Dating in the '70s using catalogues - kamakiri
SAKWiki Tang Stamp page -  with images,  evolution and dates - updated by Max and the MTo team

Tool / Feature Specific Resources
Victorinox tang stamps - Ulli
Wenger tang stamps - Ulli
SAKWiki Tang Stamp page - with images and evolution - Repeat of the link in the above section
Let's date the changing of the camping sign - Frater Martin
Writing an article about the magnifying lens, can you help me out? - Mactire404
Evolution of wood saws - MiniChamp
Victorinox scale variations and evolution - jazzbass
SAK Production Errors - kamakiri
Awl evolution ..... and many other interesting topics (Reply 36) - kamakiri
Evolution of, and dating, the Grand Prix Inlay - kamakiri
Blade, scissor, saw comparisons - Echotech
Front and back tool pairings - Dave Zell and the MT.o team

SAK Model Resources
SAKWiki - very helpfully suggested by dks
SAK Selector - link to forum topic
Journey through the 91mm Family - Max Stone
91mm SAK Family Trees - Max Stone
111mm SAK Family Tree - Max Stone
84mm model relationships - LeaF
91mm model relationships - LeaF
Model Posters by SAK length - NeleDo - See bottom of appropriate SAKWiki menu page eg 91mm -
Side-by-side SAK comparisons - FolderBeholder
Vintage SAK Club - M0rkoni
Exploded SAK images - Craggus2000
Pioneer knowledge book - Fronta
Other countries that issue SAKs to troops - Guardian
Victorinox 91mm pouch sizes by model and layer - Little Tinker

Swisstool Resources
Different Swisstool plier heads, the truth - Dunc
Swisstools the different models - Dunc


External sites
SAAM's 91mm tool evolution site - One of the first, and a very popular, pictorial blog showing tool evolutions and dates. Creation of this site is discussed in one of the links in the first section of this post.  Note: Unfortunately this link/website appears to be unavailable - We are investigating
Victorinox Chronology [pdf] - A document from Victorinox on tool evolution - Note: Not all dates are correct!!
sakhome - A private blog containing very detailed and interesting SAK information
Victorinox: Everything you need to know about Multi-tools and cutlery [pdf] - A very interesting document from Victorinox on several Swiss Army Knife topics
Les couteaux du soldat de l'armée suisse -  The definitive site on Soldier models. From French enthusiasts. English version via this link
« Last Edit: November 25, 2023, 11:30:38 PM by Huntsman »


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SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 11:07:05 AM
Thanks for this H... nice to have it compiled all in one place... So far been using Ulli’s tang stamp chart and Saam’s tool evolution to date SAKs

If I’m not mistaken, Ulli also shared a chart of Victorinox and Wenger Shield Logos used on scales... just can’t find it...


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« Last Edit: February 06, 2018, 11:11:17 AM by jaya_man »


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #2 on: February 06, 2018, 12:17:56 PM
 :salute:

Good shout on ulli's Wenger info.  This one, I presume: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70421.0.html


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #3 on: February 06, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
Also added Advertising Saks with Year-Stamps to Help Date Tools and Stamps: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,70953.0.html


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 12:24:19 PM
This site is also useful sometimes : http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php

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Reply #5 on: February 06, 2018, 01:04:19 PM
Ahhh... Thanks H :hatsoff:


Can’t wait for it to be stickied...

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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 03:09:45 PM
Added a few more links to the first post.  I'll tidy it up later.
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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 05:57:14 PM
This demonstrates the issue with being able to go back and edit your posts (there was a thread about this a few days ago) -  now my post which was insightful and very useful appears to be the post of someone who dis not read the OP post.

I request to be acknowledged  for my contribution !!   :viking: :viking: :viking: :viking: :viking: :duel: :duel: :duel: :duel: :duel: :duel: :duel: :duel: :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd: :bnghd: :crash: :crash: :crash: :crash: :crash:















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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #8 on: February 06, 2018, 06:01:58 PM
better now?


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Reply #9 on: February 06, 2018, 06:08:23 PM
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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #10 on: February 06, 2018, 08:02:56 PM
There is a document by Victorinox titled "Everything you need to know about Multi-tools and cutlery" which is currently available for download at https://www.nyttigbras.dk/nblibrary/victorinox-everything-you-need-to-know-about-multi-tools-and-cutlery.pdf
It contains a lot of relevant information and may be appropriate for linking here. In particular, page B8 of this document has what appears to be a polished version of the "Victorinox Chronology" document. I attach a PDF file with just this page.

Also, the following is an excellent resource on Swiss soldier knives: https://www.couteaux-du-soldat-suisse.ch/J01/index.php/en/




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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 09:34:30 PM
Thanks MiniChamp; links added to the first post. :tu:


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #12 on: February 06, 2018, 11:00:18 PM
Nice Work!!! :like: :like:
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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #13 on: February 17, 2018, 02:14:47 AM
Thanks for putting our dating threads in a sticky Hiraethus - What an honour !!   :tu:

Should we be putting a wee note in the first post above, or even in the first post of each original thread to remind readers to check the later pages of the thread for the latest version of the document
Certainly my first version is way, way inferior to the latest one!

Or even copy the latest version to the first post - Maybe not the best option as that means on-going work ???


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #14 on: February 17, 2018, 10:39:37 PM
 :salute:

They're a great resource, and deserve to be widely used. :like:

I'll add a note about using the latest versions to the first post.


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Reply #15 on: February 18, 2018, 04:43:38 AM
 :woohoo:
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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #16 on: March 22, 2018, 04:05:12 PM
FolderBeholder's Side-by-side SAK comparisons

I just clicked into this thread for the first time and I'm deeply touched and honored to see my topic amongst your list of such fine resources.
Thank you.
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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #17 on: March 22, 2018, 10:34:48 PM
Hey MiniChamp

Thanks for the 'Everything you Needed to Know'  link and document - I had never seen that before - It's great   :cheers:


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #18 on: March 23, 2018, 11:57:54 AM
Nice! Great set of links!

And a good reminder too  :facepalm:
I still have a pocket identification guide in the making.
Might just continue that when I'm back home.
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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #19 on: March 23, 2018, 03:22:46 PM
Hey MiniChamp

Thanks for the 'Everything you Needed to Know'  link and document - I had never seen that before - It's great   :cheers:

You’re welcome! Since I have no idea how stable is the link I provided, I wonder if it's possible to make this document available on SAKWiki. :think:


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #20 on: March 24, 2018, 11:09:25 PM
I just clicked into this thread for the first time and I'm deeply touched and honored to see my topic amongst your list of such fine resources.
Thank you.

You're very welcome.  It's a great thread and full of good info that happened to catch my eye while looking for SAK comparisons. :tu:


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #21 on: April 05, 2018, 10:14:19 PM
Great info, but there is no way to identify on what year my swisstool was made???
 :climber:
Enjoy!


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #22 on: April 06, 2018, 02:32:45 AM
Try the information on the plier heads in the History section

http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=SwissTool#History


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #23 on: April 06, 2018, 12:30:52 PM
Great info, but there is no way to identify on what year my swisstool was made???
 :climber:

there's also this very thorough thread

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,2463.0.html
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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #24 on: April 08, 2018, 04:28:58 AM
This forum is just the best, ain't it?   :tu:  :salute:
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Reply #25 on: April 08, 2018, 03:50:09 PM
This forum is just the best, ain't it?   :tu:  :salute:

no doubt  :cheers:
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MTs: Surge (2x), Skeletool CX, Rebar, Blast, Fuse, Micra, Squirt (3x), Wave, Crunch, Mini, Spirit (2x), Pro Scout, MP700 (2x), Diesel, Powerlock, PowerPlier (2x), PocketPowerPlier, Blacktip , ST6 (2x), 5WR, A100

SAKs: Bantam, Executive, Ambassador, Minichamp, Classic Alox, Champion, Farmer, Explorer, Swisschamp, Golf Tool, Wenger Champ, EVO 52, Pocket Tool Chest


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Re: SAK dating/identification resources
Reply #26 on: April 09, 2018, 06:14:53 PM
This forum is just the best, ain't it?   :tu:  :salute:

Amen brother.


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Re: SAK and Swisstool dating/identification resources
Reply #27 on: July 12, 2018, 03:16:51 PM
First post updated with links that were previously stickies - cleaning up the front page of the Swiss Army Knights Forum. :salute:


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Re: SAK and Swisstool dating/identification resources
Reply #28 on: July 13, 2018, 12:15:30 AM
Very neat !! :tu:


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Re: SAK / Swisstool dating and identification resources
Reply #29 on: May 07, 2019, 02:45:27 AM
Hi Guys
The list at the top of this thread was getting a bit long - So I have organised it into sections
Any suggestions/comments/feedback gratefully received
« Last Edit: May 07, 2019, 03:10:44 AM by Huntsman »


 

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