Quote from: pfrsantos on April 09, 2018, 01:48:28 AMFirst, get the Mechanic. Then, get some alox. I’m curious, why do you recommend the mechanic first? Not disagreeing, just interested in your reasoning...
First, get the Mechanic. Then, get some alox.
From what you have said about what you want - It's the Fieldmaster all the way.All your favourite tools including the scale tools in one neat compact package.Four layer is really quite OK to pocket carryIf the scales do fall off in four years time - you can just get some new cool ones Or if you are feeling like a real treat get a Syph custom with scales that will outlast us all https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,34772.msg1675049.html#msg1675049PS. Great pics FB and JL ... and Zed
Ahem, farmer, ahem That way you will never have to replace the scales, if fits better in the pocket, and you will know what it's like to be an alox owner.And... Glenfiddich is right
Because it's a retired model. You can get one of the others later on.
From a practical usage standpoint, ask yourself what tools you use most often. Ensure what you get embraces those. A collector will have a drawer or more laden with SAKs laid out showing all the models and their variants. What do they most frequently carry if not on a rigorous rotation? I've got a large number of different SAKs, with very little repetition in just a few models. For me, when I know I won't have access to other tools much, it always comes back to one of three specific SAKs. Something to think about. Are you wanting to find one you'll carry all the time, or are you starting an accumulation (collection still in denial), or have you decided you're starting a collection? Only you can answer that.This comes from someone who has accumulated of SAKs, not collected them. If I were a collector I'd have lists of what I have and don't have that's needed to make the collection complete (more power to those that collect; just not my thing). I simply bought what intrigued me with a given tool set without thinking about filling in one of everything. When you decide what your goals are, and only you can answer that, what you want next will gain great clarity!BTW, do something about the scales on the one you have. I've got a 40+ year old Woodsman and its scales show wear and use, but they're still sound and solid; not even a small crack. If its scales were falling off I'd replace them with new ones without thinking twice about it beyond a tear or two for the old ones with (very literally) battle scars. The rest of it still shows that it's seen combat in subtle ways. If it were an antique 1890's or vintage 1951 Soldier (prior to the 1961 Soldier), or a retired model that has vintage scales no longer made, I'd be thinking about a restoration to maintain its value, but it's not. Replacing Cellidor scales is simple and inexpensive. Tutorials on how to do it are very easily found.John
Pioneer X/Farmer and Manager/Rambler pairs up like peanut butter and jam.
Quote from: pfrsantos on April 09, 2018, 09:04:16 PMBecause it's a retired model. You can get one of the others later on. Makes sense... I'll certainly have to give the Mechanic some extra thought due to the rarity of the model - though, the more I think about it, I'm not sure that the tool set would be best for me.
Don't say that pfrsantos! I was just adjusting to the idea of having just one of each
Yup! The Rally is a great compliment to the PX as well, and cuts a little weight and duplication
PX is a lifetime excellent choice
It's not for using! You only use a knife when you have at least three of the same model! And even then, not always!
Quote from: Brock O Lee on April 10, 2018, 05:59:41 AMPioneer X/Farmer and Manager/Rambler pairs up like peanut butter and jam. Quote from: El Corkscrew on April 10, 2018, 07:53:19 AMYup! The Rally is a great compliment to the PX as well, and cuts a little weight and duplicationAt the moment I only have a classic, but now I may have to keep an eye out for a rambler or rally... I really like the idea of the rally - very little duplication, and the thinness of a classic I would imagine!
Quote from: gcconspiracy on April 10, 2018, 08:47:39 PMQuote from: Brock O Lee on April 10, 2018, 05:59:41 AMPioneer X/Farmer and Manager/Rambler pairs up like peanut butter and jam. Quote from: El Corkscrew on April 10, 2018, 07:53:19 AMYup! The Rally is a great compliment to the PX as well, and cuts a little weight and duplicationAt the moment I only have a classic, but now I may have to keep an eye out for a rambler or rally... I really like the idea of the rally - very little duplication, and the thinness of a classic I would imagine!I have a pile of Classics accumulated, many as handout SWAG without logos, some rather old. Don't really carry them except perhaps to toss one into a travel kit that's not going onto an airline. For EDC I have a custom mini-champ with classic T&T scales that makes it thinner. If I want thinner yet I go with a Rambler. Measured a T&T Classic at 8.5mm thick and the T&T Rambler at 10.3mm thick. I've found the combo tool invaluable along with the scissors, file, T&T. The pen blade is used, but it's the least used compared to the rest. Reason the modded mini-champ is normal carry is its orange peeler which works magnificently on the mandarin and clementine oranges I frequently consume.John
.. I really like the idea of the Rally - very little duplication, and the thinness of a classic I would imagine!
Quote from: jalind on April 10, 2018, 09:41:32 PMI have a pile of Classics accumulated, many as handout SWAG without logos, some rather old. Don't really carry them except perhaps to toss one into a travel kit that's not going onto an airline. For EDC I have a custom mini-champ with classic T&T scales that makes it thinner. If I want thinner yet I go with a Rambler. Measured a T&T Classic at 8.5mm thick and the T&T Rambler at 10.3mm thick. I've found the combo tool invaluable along with the scissors, file, T&T. The pen blade is used, but it's the least used compared to the rest. Reason the modded mini-champ is normal carry is its orange peeler which works magnificently on the mandarin and clementine oranges I frequently consume.JohnCould you post a picture of your custom minichamp?
I have a pile of Classics accumulated, many as handout SWAG without logos, some rather old. Don't really carry them except perhaps to toss one into a travel kit that's not going onto an airline. For EDC I have a custom mini-champ with classic T&T scales that makes it thinner. If I want thinner yet I go with a Rambler. Measured a T&T Classic at 8.5mm thick and the T&T Rambler at 10.3mm thick. I've found the combo tool invaluable along with the scissors, file, T&T. The pen blade is used, but it's the least used compared to the rest. Reason the modded mini-champ is normal carry is its orange peeler which works magnificently on the mandarin and clementine oranges I frequently consume.John
Two more photos showing thickness comparison . . .Top one is the 12.9mm custom T&T scales MiniChamp compared to a 16.3mm Midnite Minichamp with flashlight and pen. Those two features add substantial thickness.(Image removed from quote.)The 12.9mm custom T&T MiniChamp compared to a 10.3mm thick Rambler with the combo tool.(Image removed from quote.)Edit:Just remembered I had a MiniChamp stashed with other 58mm I've accumulated for giveaways to friends. The MiniChamp, which has the pen but not the flashlight, measured 14.6mm thick, which is still 1.7mm thicker than the one I put T&T scales on.Recap:8.5mm: Classic10.3mm: Rambler (adds combo tool to Classic)12.9mm: Custom T&T MiniChamp14.6mm: MiniChamp (pen)16.3mm: Midnite MiniChamp (pen and light) John
Quote from: pfrsantos on April 10, 2018, 06:30:14 PMIt's not for using! You only use a knife when you have at least three of the same model! And even then, not always! I can see I have much to learn But in reality, I am only interested in finding the right EDC for me, not start a collection!
Quote from: jalind on April 11, 2018, 06:18:44 AMTwo more photos showing thickness comparison . . .Top one is the 12.9mm custom T&T scales MiniChamp compared to a 16.3mm Midnite Minichamp with flashlight and pen. Those two features add substantial thickness.(Image removed from quote.)The 12.9mm custom T&T MiniChamp compared to a 10.3mm thick Rambler with the combo tool.(Image removed from quote.)Edit:Just remembered I had a MiniChamp stashed with other 58mm I've accumulated for giveaways to friends. The MiniChamp, which has the pen but not the flashlight, measured 14.6mm thick, which is still 1.7mm thicker than the one I put T&T scales on.Recap:8.5mm: Classic10.3mm: Rambler (adds combo tool to Classic)12.9mm: Custom T&T MiniChamp14.6mm: MiniChamp (pen)16.3mm: Midnite MiniChamp (pen and light) JohnThanks so much for posting this! I am amazed at the difference those scales make - a picture truly is worth a thousand words when it comes to visualizing the differences!
WOW! Feel free to put any and all of those comparison shots in my thread:https://forum.multitool.o...ex.php/topic,71217.0.htmlThe quality of your photos are so nice!