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Recommended Police Flashlights 4847

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2018, 05:59:36 PM »
I have to agree with Fuzzy and Pabs - If you don't want to get involved in the thread for whatever reason, feel free, but if you do want to contribute please be as respectful as the OP has been, despite all the insults.

And don't forget that all of us on this forum tend to be regarded as having a screw or two loose by the general  population.  :D
Which is rather strange, as we have all these screw-tightening tools.  :facepalm:

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2018, 06:03:33 PM »
I have to agree with Fuzzy and Pabs - If you don't want to get involved in the thread for whatever reason, feel free, but if you do want to contribute please be as respectful as the OP has been, despite all the insults.

And don't forget that all of us on this forum tend to be regarded as having a screw or two loose by the general  population.  :D
Which is rather strange, as we have all these screw-tightening tools.  :facepalm:
Yeah, but, are they Police approved?! Lol   :D

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2018, 06:28:20 PM »
I am still waiting to understand the exact interest in this that the O.P. has in the first place?
Is he a Cop already or becoming one and needs to know for the Job?
On the other end is he maybe a Manufacturer trying to decide the direction to go to offer lights to the guys on the Job?

These are widely different perspectives obviously and I have asked twice now and never gotten an answer so how can we give good advice wile not knowing the objective really?
So far the replies from the O.P. seem to ignore any request for context and just repeat the same things.

I agree there is no reason for insults but asking without providing this context and then answering his own question and not telling us where he is coming from are not overly polite as well.at least to me?
« Last Edit: April 23, 2018, 06:29:23 PM by ezdog »
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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2018, 09:41:17 PM »
I have to agree with Fuzzy and Pabs - If you don't want to get involved in the thread for whatever reason, feel free, but if you do want to contribute please be as respectful as the OP has been, despite all the insults.

And don't forget that all of us on this forum tend to be regarded as having a screw or two loose by the general  population.  :D
Which is rather strange, as we have all these screw-tightening tools.  :facepalm:

 :rofl:

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2018, 09:43:08 PM »
None of are exactly sure why Rico focuses on LEO and tools for their profession.  I find it interesting he's so interested.  He certainly stirs of some conversation. 

I just really have nothing to add but insults and jabs aren't necessary IMO.


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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2018, 09:46:59 PM »
I have to agree with Fuzzy and Pabs - If you don't want to get involved in the thread for whatever reason, feel free, but if you do want to contribute please be as respectful as the OP has been, despite all the insults.

And don't forget that all of us on this forum tend to be regarded as having a screw or two loose by the general  population.  :D
Which is rather strange, as we have all these screw-tightening tools.  :facepalm:

 :rofl:


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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2018, 10:29:36 PM »
 :b2t:
I still think that maglight, surefire, etc and the like are used by LEO and other services for a reason.
It works, and keeps on working.  :salute:
I hesitate to recommend 18650 powered flashlights, as 18650 batteries can be.... not good in some cases. I would definitely make sure that they have protection circuits to prevent explosions....

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2018, 02:37:31 PM »
The olight S2 baton would make a good general use police light. It's compact enough to carry easily. It's super bright and you can get the diffusers in white and orange so it can be used as a traffic wand as well.
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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2018, 02:56:21 PM »

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2018, 04:52:26 PM »
Convoy L6, even 3800 lumens, 65 dollars.
Beam is not very narrow.
To carry in a car, 550 grams without batteries.
Positive user-reviews.
Video: Convoy L6 Flashlight Review. A Big 3000 Lumen Light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Qcp54u868



Thorfire C8S Upgraded, 900 lumens, 20 dollars.
To carry on the body, 145 grams without batteries.
Positive user-reviews.
Video: Thorfire C8S XML-2 Flashlight review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rILCc-2WGqs
« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 05:52:32 PM by Rico-2 »
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Convoy C8
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2018, 08:46:52 AM »
Convoy C8,1000 lumens, 20 dollars.
Available in silver and in black. It resembles the Thorfire C8S, mentioned above.
145 grams without batteries, can be carried on the body.
Positive customer reviews.
Videos:

Convoy C8 (New Version) Flashlight Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgQwMdqtXGU

« Last Edit: April 25, 2018, 09:05:17 AM by Rico-2 »
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Nitecore P12GT
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2018, 12:51:31 PM »
Nitecore P12GT, 1000 lumens, 62 dollars
long throw, 91 grams
positive consumer-reviews
specs: http://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/p12gt
video: NiteCore P12GT: Bug-Out Bag Light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emszQk6pbZI
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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2018, 02:42:50 PM »
Rico-2 please tell us have you been to any dedicated Flashlight Forums or Police Forums with this same question?
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Explosion-risk of lithium batteries
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2018, 05:48:10 PM »
I hesitate to recommend 18650 powered flashlights, as 18650 batteries can be.... not good in some cases. I would definitely make sure that they have protection circuits to prevent explosions....
Rechargeable lithium batteries that are used in flashlights, smartphones, laptops etc., can explode and cause a fire. Therefore rechargeable lithium batteries and their chargers should be high quality, and users should be educated about safe use.

I prefer non-lithium batteries for private use, since they are safer, cheaper and more easily available than rechargeable lithium batteries. Those non-lithium batteries are non-rechargeable alkaline, or rechargeable NiMh (preferably low self-dicharge type).

Alkaline batteries often leak chemicals, that can damage the appliance.

Non-lithium batteries have not enough capacity for the small high-lumen flashlights, that LEOs need, to fight crime. If their flashlight would go out, in a dangerous situation they might get shot, etc.

LEOs need a light-weight flashlight, since they carry much other gear, like a bodycam, taser, smartphone, baton, pepper-spray, bullet-proof MOLLE vest, radio, multi-tool, handcuffs, first-aid-kit, gloves, duty-belt, etc. 

Non-rechargeable lithium batteries (AKA primary lithium batteries) are explosion-safe, and have no self-discharge, and no leakage, but are expensive in intensive use, like police-work. They are suitable for flashlights for rare emergencies without addition of a solar-panel, like in a small survival-kit, first-aid-kit, etc.

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_battery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery
« Last Edit: April 25, 2018, 06:01:19 PM by Rico-2 »
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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2018, 05:51:50 PM »
Also note,
Non-rechargeable lithium batteries have a shelf life of at least 10 years.
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How to choose a police flashlight
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2018, 07:26:54 PM »
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Rayovac The Beast - search-light
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2018, 11:31:09 PM »
Rayovac The Beast RWP123A-BD 
2000 lumens, narrow beam, search-light, 60 dollars.
17 oz, to carry in a car.
Positive consumer-reviews.
Specs: http://www.rayovac.com/products/lights/outdoor-lights/rwp123a-the-beast-cr123a-lithium-flashlight.aspx

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Fenix FD41 - focusable
« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2018, 02:22:42 AM »
The olight S2 baton would make a good general use police light. It's compact enough to carry easily. It's super bright and you can get the diffusers in white and orange so it can be used as a traffic wand as well.

Thanks for your reply. The S2 baton has advantages, and Olight has a good reputation. But I think that a tail-switch is easier to find in a dangerous stress-situation than a side-switch. 

Fenix FD41, 900 lumens, adjustable beam-width, 85 dollars.
5.6 oz. excluding battery.
Positive consumer-reviews.
Specs: https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/fenix-fd41-focus-flashlight/
Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei9RO0_rHnw
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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2018, 07:52:29 AM »


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Small backup light
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2018, 01:52:01 PM »
Some police-officers may be hesitant, to rely on a low-budget flashlight in life-threatening situations, even if this flashlight has many positive user-reviews on Youtube, Amazon, flashlight-forums, etc.

IMO, it is wise for police-officers anyway, to carry a mini-flashlight or small headlamp on the chest or shoulder, as a backup light. This can be used hands-free to inspect documents, etc. Or it can shine together with the main flashlight, for extra bright lighting. A headlamp can sometimes be worn on the head, during search & rescue, first-aid, inspections, repairs, etc.

For these purposes one could use for instance a Zebralight headlamp. Or the Fenix HL55 headlamp, max. 900 lumens, 60 dollars. Can be tilted vertically, wide beam-pattern.
Specs: https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/hl55-fenix-headlamp/
« Last Edit: April 26, 2018, 03:37:58 PM by Rico-2 »
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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2018, 07:58:59 PM »
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« Last Edit: April 26, 2018, 08:21:07 PM by Rico-2 »
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 15,126 Yoo-hoo, big summer blowout!
Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2018, 08:07:33 PM »
Romer Led Rechargeable Handheld Searchlight
Six-thousand lumens, 32 dollars.
1.2 pounds, with shoulder-strap.
Doubles as a powerbank for smartphone, tablet, etc.
Positive user-reviews.
It sounds like a toy. And no way is it 6,000 lumens for $32.

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2018, 08:13:34 PM »
And don’t rely on reviews on shop websites like amazon. On lots of products, many of them are probably fake, and most of the rest are not useful. :)

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2018, 08:16:06 PM »
It sounds like a toy. And no way is it 6,000 lumens for $32.

Thanks for your comment. You may be right. I have removed my post.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2018, 08:25:43 PM by Rico-2 »
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 15,126 Yoo-hoo, big summer blowout!
Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2018, 08:39:42 PM »
No need to remove posts, it just confuses things.  :)

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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M3XS-UT, M2X-UT
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2018, 11:30:28 PM »
Olight M3XS-UT Javelot,
1000 meters, 3300 feet, 150 dollars.
Very narrow beam, 1200 lumens, 9 oz.
Positive user-reviews on Youtube, etc.
Specs: https://olightworld.com/led-flashlights/all-flashlights/olight-m3xs-ut-javelot
Video: Olight M3XS-UT Javelot 1km Beam Ultra Thrower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DziuH3okE-o




M2X UT Javelot
2600 feet, 800 meters, 90 dollars.
Very narrow beam, 800 lumens, 7.7 oz.
Positive user-reviews.
Specs: https://olightworld.com/olight-m2x-ut-javelot?search=m2x%20ut

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaE1fo8-Z2Q
« Last Edit: April 26, 2018, 11:45:27 PM by Rico-2 »
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Helmet-lights
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2018, 12:47:52 AM »
Another lighting-system for the police could be helmet-lights. They provide hands-free lighting, that automatically follows the direction of view. Helmet-lights are less vulnerable in a hand-to hand-fight, than a head-light on an elastic strap around the head.

The helmet-light can be attached to the front, top, or side of the police-helmet. For example on a light-weight military FAST helmet. The helmet can have side-rails, to attach different kinds of equipment to, like a headset, bodycam, etc.

Or police-officers can wear a bike-helmet, skate-helmet, cave-helmet, etc. The helmet can protect the officer from permanent brain-damage, caused by violence or an accident.

It is handy, if a backup-light is carried on the body, in case the helmet is carried on the belt or vest, or in the vehicle.

Video: Peltor Comtac III Overview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLBs4norgY0
« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 12:51:38 AM by Rico-2 »
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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2018, 01:13:15 AM »
Back in my day the cops used to carry these things!

I don't think most police officers are having that hard of a time picking something suitable nowadays...

« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 01:15:27 AM by kaput »

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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2018, 01:42:01 AM »
Helmet lights? Helmet lights?!?

Rico, it's great you have such interest, and we are an inclusive bunch here, so, welcome. Im not trying to insult you. You inspire dialog and that's good. But you are talking nonsense if you expect that police officers (at least in the united states) should be wearing helmets all the time like Robocop, soldiers, or gladiators.

That's just nothe how it really is here, sir. And I hope it never has to be.
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Re: Recommended Police Flashlights
« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2018, 02:24:10 AM »
Rico, it's great you have such interest, and we are an inclusive bunch here, so, welcome. Im not trying to insult you. You inspire dialog and that's good. But you are talking nonsense if you expect that police officers (at least in the united states) should be wearing helmets all the time like Robocop, soldiers, or gladiators. That's just not how it really is here, sir. And I hope it never has to be.

Thanks for your reply. I said: "It is handy, if a backup-light is carried on the body, in case the helmet is carried on the belt or vest, or in the vehicle."

Officers on a bike, motor-bike or horse wear a helmet, and also SWAT and riot-police. And if other police-officers sometimes wear a helmet for protection, like construction-workers, and fire-fighters, that does not imply that they are less friendly, or that democracy is lost. I am politically left-wing.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 03:15:17 AM by Rico-2 »

 

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