PowerPint Overview Mighty Little MT

[gerleatherberman]

All sites are back to saying preorder... 

Is there anything on your Pints to designate it as a first production run?

Possibly the different cast SOG logos on the pliers.
There aren't any numbers or anything, so it's hard to tell.
I hope the Pint can dig SOG out of their metaphorical hole.

[Exeter]

All sites are back to saying preorder... 

Is there anything on your Pints to designate it as a first production run?

Possibly the different cast SOG logos on the pliers.
There aren't any numbers or anything, so it's hard to tell.
I hope the Pint can dig SOG out of their metaphorical hole.

Interesting. And yeah, no date stamps or anything.

I guess I'll be pretty annoyed if a second run comes out with a proper, functional file. But of course it would be a positive for future buyers, and a good step from the company if they improve the quality.

[gerleatherberman]

Hey Exeter,
If the newer ones have good files, then we must immediately request SOG send us just the files to install ourselves.

[Wspeed]

Hey Exeter,
If the newer ones have good files, then we must immediately request SOG send us just the files to install ourselves.

+1

[Exeter]

Hey Exeter,
If the newer ones have good files, then we must immediately request SOG send us just the files to install ourselves.

Indeed. (Why haven't I thought of that in the first place?)

[Sam Lim]

I was working on the scissors the whole afternoon and I think I have figured out what's wrong with it. It's simply a case of bad design. The angle of the "V" opening of the 2 blades are totally off. They does not provide any slicing action but rather 2 pieces of metal trying to go past each other at a very steep angle. It's more like chopping than slicing. The short length of the handle makes it even worse.  I hope people can understand. The left hand cut post another problem. U try to draw a straight line on a piece of paper and try to cut it. You will get what I mean. In case you are wondering, the dime scissors uses a left handed design. So it doesn't cut well either though mine doesn't have much issues. So imo, there's no way to significantly improve the scissors. Well its a small scissors for small tasks. Not the end of the world, but I would say it's a bad failed design.

The awl is extremely well designed. But it drew blood the second day on using it.... When u have the PE blade out, watch where your middle finger is resting. There's a high chance it may wander into the handle frame, into the awl. I was aware of this danger so I am always very mindful of it. But that day, I was just fidgeting with the MT and my finger still got caught on the awl.. So this tool is having a trip to the grinder. But it's really a awl with the optimal pokey power. All awls should be made in this design..

[Exeter]

I was working on the scissors the whole afternoon and I think I have figured out what's wrong with it. It's simply a case of bad design. The angle of the "V" opening of the 2 blades are totally off. They does not provide any slicing action but rather 2 pieces of metal trying to go past each other at a very steep angle. It's more like chopping than slicing. The short length of the handle makes it even worse.  I hope people can understand. The left hand cut post another problem. U try to draw a straight line on a piece of paper and try to cut it. You will get what I mean. In case you are wondering, the dime scissors uses a left handed design. So it doesn't cut well either though mine doesn't have much issues. So imo, there's no way to significantly improve the scissors. Well its a small scissors for small tasks. Not the end of the world, but I would say it's a bad failed design.

The awl is extremely well designed. But it drew blood the second day on using it.... When u have the PE blade out, watch where your middle finger is resting. There's a high chance it may wander into the handle frame, into the awl. I was aware of this danger so I am always very mindful of it. But that day, I was just fidgeting with the MT and my finger still got caught on the awl.. So this tool is having a trip to the grinder. But it's really a awl with the optimal pokey power. All awls should be made in this design..

Sam, how/what are you planning to modify the awl exactly? So far I managed to avoid being stabbed or cut by it, but got close to it myself, so I'd be interested to hear your (planned) solution. Are you thinking of deepening that little notch at the bottom for it to lie a bit deeper when closed?

[Sam Lim]

I was working on the scissors the whole afternoon and I think I have figured out what's wrong with it. It's simply a case of bad design. The angle of the "V" opening of the 2 blades are totally off. They does not provide any slicing action but rather 2 pieces of metal trying to go past each other at a very steep angle. It's more like chopping than slicing. The short length of the handle makes it even worse.  I hope people can understand. The left hand cut post another problem. U try to draw a straight line on a piece of paper and try to cut it. You will get what I mean. In case you are wondering, the dime scissors uses a left handed design. So it doesn't cut well either though mine doesn't have much issues. So imo, there's no way to significantly improve the scissors. Well its a small scissors for small tasks. Not the end of the world, but I would say it's a bad failed design.

The awl is extremely well designed. But it drew blood the second day on using it.... When u have the PE blade out, watch where your middle finger is resting. There's a high chance it may wander into the handle frame, into the awl. I was aware of this danger so I am always very mindful of it. But that day, I was just fidgeting with the MT and my finger still got caught on the awl.. So this tool is having a trip to the grinder. But it's really a awl with the optimal pokey power. All awls should be made in this design..

Sam, how/what are you planning to modify the awl exactly? So far I managed to avoid being stabbed or cut by it, but got close to it myself, so I'd be interested to hear your (planned) solution. Are you thinking of deepening that little notch at the bottom for it to lie a bit deeper when closed?

I am not going that direction.. That would make that particular tools recessed and sort of ruin the outlook.. I just grounded some material off the back of the awl. Its still super effective.



It doesn't have to be much and doesn't seem much. But enough to be safe.

[Exeter]

Ah, I see, nice and simple. I overthought it.

[Sam Lim]

Well.. I just snapped my spring for the scissors.. I swear I was using it normally.. Can't say I am surprised.. So this marks the end for my ranting of the scissors..   

[Wspeed]

Well.. I just snapped my spring for the scissors.. I swear I was using it normally.. Can't say I am surprised.. So this marks the end for my ranting of the scissors..   

Not again
This is happening a couple of times now 
It happened to a member on here with the PAD
Were the spring broke for the lock mechanism 

[Sam Lim]

Well.. I just snapped my spring for the scissors.. I swear I was using it normally.. Can't say I am surprised.. So this marks the end for my ranting of the scissors..   

Not again
This is happening a couple of times now 
It happened to a member on here with the PAD
Were the spring broke for the lock mechanism 

To be honest, I am not really surprised by it. Not even angry.. Amused really.

Not really sure what u meant by "Were the spring broke for the lock mechanism  " .. But looking at the spring method they have used for the locking tabs, I think that will be another very possible failure...

I am pretty fast at working/breaking apart things nowadays.. its midnight now so I am only using "quiet" hand tools.. Some changes were made to the loadout. Broken scissors and serrated blade removed. 

Some filing work of course. Though the pivot size are different, It doesn't prevent the wave scissors to lock up properly and perfectly functional. The wave scissors was from my parts bin.The thumb pad was broken originally, that's why the handles on this scissors are so short. If done on a proper wave scissors, It should be another 10mm longer, which is a very decent length. Mighty package opener from a Dime of course.( from ThePeacent )


 

[Wspeed]

Sorry for not explaining it properly
And my bad spelling
The springs I mean are on the handle
Better way here is a pic 

[Sam Lim]

Sorry for not explaining it properly
And my bad spelling
The springs I mean are on the handle
Better way here is a pic 

Ok thats what I thought. Mine is not broken, yet... But I do believe they will eventually...

[Wspeed]

I would love to see a replaceable spring system
That can just be clipped on to the handles 

[gerleatherberman]

I think Gerber(saf-t-lock) is the only current producer of an MT with replaceable springs. LM, Vic, and SOG have permanent springs. Either riveted on (Vic) or part of the handle.
Some exemptions apply, but for the most part, these comanies really don't care about a tool lasting forever.

But, SOG, the springs need to hold up more than a week.

[ThePeacent]

But, SOG, the springs need to hold up more than a week.

the only two things I've broken in my SOGs are a scissors spring    and a dented cable cutter 

[gerleatherberman]

SOG and Gerber seem to have a hard time figuring out how to temper scissors springs. I wish they would do back to the old spring ribbon/wire concept.

[Sam Lim]

SOG and Gerber seem to have a hard time figuring out how to temper scissors springs. I wish they would do back to the old spring ribbon/wire concept.

Yeah. Those are pretty much fail proof.

[Sakpan74Gr]

Considering that the file is nothing to write home about, I thought it would be useful to shape the end as a scrapper. (Is that what it is? English isn't my first language...) You can see before and after the Dremel treatment.

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[gerleatherberman]

Excellent improvement, Sakpan!

 

[Exeter]

Considering that the file is nothing to write home about, I thought it would be useful to shape the end as a scrapper. (Is that what it is? English isn't my first language...) You can see before and after the Dremel treatment.(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)

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Pretty nice!  Great idea, maybe I'll try that too.

[gerleatherberman]

It has been a while since the Pint came out. My thoughts are mostly positive.

Pros:
Compound leverage on the mid-sized plier head.
Outside tool access.
Locking tools.
Pocketable.
Stronger than expected.
After the tool went through a 'break-in' period, the tools and pliers deploy, lock and unlock smoothly and a slight snap holdin the tools in now (not perfect, but acceptable).
Easy to disassemble.
After a while, the scissors got a bit easier to use. Not great, but mediocre.

Cons:
My first one had a screw head break off when using the phillips driver hard. SOG took care of it. While SOG had it, I bought another one. It has had no problems so far.
Scissors are uncomfortable on harder materials.
File is mediocre at best.
Cutter hook came dull and the design isn't effective
You have to slightly open the handles to unlock the tools

I may be forgetting something, but those are my thoughts so far.

[Sakpan74Gr]

And I almost forgot: I mentioned I didn't really like the stowash finish, so I polished the middle "panel" on the handles. It came out pretty nice, at least for my eyes. It's not easy to show on camera, but irl it looks quite stylish like this.

This is really beautiful! How did you do it? Sandpaper? What kind of grit?

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[Exeter]

And I almost forgot: I mentioned I didn't really like the stowash finish, so I polished the middle "panel" on the handles. It came out pretty nice, at least for my eyes. It's not easy to show on camera, but irl it looks quite stylish like this.

This is really beautiful! How did you do it? Sandpaper? What kind of grit?

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I used 1000 and 2000 grit sandpaper if I remember correctly and then green polishing compound.

[roamingcat]

REPLACE THE SCISSORS AND FILER TO MAKE IT PERFECT

On paper, the Powerpint appears to be the perfect edc for me since it ticks all the boxes for me.... pocketability, all-outside tools deployment, comprehensive tool selection, etc.. However, based on the reviews I have seen so far, I am very concerned with the scissors and filer which I use often.

I am thinking, if I do get the Powerpint, whether I could replace the scissors and filer with one from say, a Victorinox Classic (or some other MT). What do you guys think? Do you think it would work? Any advice would be greatly appreciated ! Thanks in advance.

[Exeter]

Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!

I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.

And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring? 

[Sam Lim]

Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!

I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.

And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring? 

I wouldnt bother with making a spring for the scissors though. The scissors is just plain bad. Giving it the best spring in the world doesn't make any difference. I broke it the first day of acquiring it. What roamingcat said is in the right direction. It needs to be replaced. I somewhat have a wave scissors in there on the very first day. Needs lots of refinement but works miles better than the original scissors.

[roamingcat]

Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!

I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.

And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring? 

Thank you Exeter for your kind words. Sorry to hear about your scissors  . Seems like it is a fairly common problem and hopefully our community here can collectively work out a solution.

I am interested to hear more about Sam's solution, i.e. replacing it with a Wave scissors. Sam, if it is not too much trouble can you post some pics and tell us a little bit more how you did it? I have a Leatherman Fuse which I don't use often and I am happy to 'transplant' the scissors to the PowerPint if I could. I really like to get the PowerPint as its design & configuration fits my requirements perfectly. Thanks so much.

[Sam Lim]

Welcome to the forum roamingcat and enjoy your time here!

I'm not sure about the modding possibilities in that sense, but I'd be curious to see what others might come up with.

And yeah, the scissors are just plain bad, I had the springbar just snap on me last week while cutting paper! I wrote to SOG asking about warranty, and if they could send me a replacement spring part, but they informed me that I'd have to send the whole tool in for repair. Financially it just wouldn't make sense for me, shipping would be 70% of the original price I paid for it, so now I'm stuck with non-functional scissors. ...any modders, handy MTO-ers wanting to try their hand at making a replacement spring? 

Thank you Exeter for your kind words. Sorry to hear about your scissors  . Seems like it is a fairly common problem and hopefully our community here can collectively work out a solution.

I am interested to hear more about Sam's solution, i.e. replacing it with a Wave scissors. Sam, if it is not too much trouble can you post some pics and tell us a little bit more how you did it? I have a Leatherman Fuse which I don't use often and I am happy to 'transplant' the scissors to the PowerPint if I could. I really like to get the PowerPint as its design & configuration fits my requirements perfectly. Thanks so much.

Hi! The pic of the wave scissors are just a few post up. Works but not the best solution.. Yesterday night after reading this post, I have again made some, I would say proper improvement. Let me get back home later to post up my solutions.