On the soon to be released versions the 'tab's' are now an extension of the first, thicker spring, so they themselves are also thicker and a lot sturdier.I've already built spare ones in older Charge ti's and Xti'sIf you are planning to buy a Wave or one of the Charge's, look for the thicker pin.It's worth it.
Yep.If these 'tabs' get bent outward or even worse, break off completely you'll end up with a plierhead that jams itself next to the bit in the bit screwdriver.Inside each Wave and Charge leg are actually 2 springs.One thick spring with the shape of a fork that helps to keep the tool opened and shut, but also with the use of a sidepin acts as a means of holding the knifeblades closed when the pliers are open.When the pliers are opened they force the fork sideways which puts the sidepin through the opening holes of the knifeblades.The second, thinner spring works on the locking tab which locks the rest of the items, and the weak 'tabs' are actually part of this spring in current models.Both springs are held in place with the little rivet you can see in the middle of your handles.On the soon to be released versions the 'tab's' are now an extension of the first, thicker spring, so they themselves are also thicker and a lot sturdier.I've already built spare ones in older Charge ti's and Xti'sIf you are planning to buy a Wave or one of the Charge's, look for the thicker pin.It's worth it.
Quote from: kwakster on November 20, 2008, 08:17:35 PMYep.If these 'tabs' get bent outward or even worse, break off completely you'll end up with a plierhead that jams itself next to the bit in the bit screwdriver.Inside each Wave and Charge leg are actually 2 springs.One thick spring with the shape of a fork that helps to keep the tool opened and shut, but also with the use of a sidepin acts as a means of holding the knifeblades closed when the pliers are open.When the pliers are opened they force the fork sideways which puts the sidepin through the opening holes of the knifeblades.The second, thinner spring works on the locking tab which locks the rest of the items, and the weak 'tabs' are actually part of this spring in current models.Both springs are held in place with the little rivet you can see in the middle of your handles.On the soon to be released versions the 'tab's' are now an extension of the first, thicker spring, so they themselves are also thicker and a lot sturdier.I've already built spare ones in older Charge ti's and Xti'sIf you are planning to buy a Wave or one of the Charge's, look for the thicker pin.It's worth it. Kwakster mentioned this some time ago. Looks like a worthwhile improvement to me:(Image removed from quote.)Picture is of two New Waves, looking down into the handle channel. On the '07 model you can see how flimsy the little "stop" pin is that the pliers rest against. No wonder they break occasionally. The stop pin on the '08 model is much thicker. Makes me wonder why they didn't do it this way from the start.
Quote from: J-sews on February 15, 2009, 03:19:30 AMQuote from: kwakster on November 20, 2008, 08:17:35 PMYep.If these 'tabs' get bent outward or even worse, break off completely you'll end up with a plierhead that jams itself next to the bit in the bit screwdriver.Inside each Wave and Charge leg are actually 2 springs.One thick spring with the shape of a fork that helps to keep the tool opened and shut, but also with the use of a sidepin acts as a means of holding the knifeblades closed when the pliers are open.When the pliers are opened they force the fork sideways which puts the sidepin through the opening holes of the knifeblades.The second, thinner spring works on the locking tab which locks the rest of the items, and the weak 'tabs' are actually part of this spring in current models.Both springs are held in place with the little rivet you can see in the middle of your handles.On the soon to be released versions the 'tab's' are now an extension of the first, thicker spring, so they themselves are also thicker and a lot sturdier.I've already built spare ones in older Charge ti's and Xti'sIf you are planning to buy a Wave or one of the Charge's, look for the thicker pin.It's worth it. Kwakster mentioned this some time ago. Looks like a worthwhile improvement to me:(Image removed from quote.)Picture is of two New Waves, looking down into the handle channel. On the '07 model you can see how flimsy the little "stop" pin is that the pliers rest against. No wonder they break occasionally. The stop pin on the '08 model is much thicker. Makes me wonder why they didn't do it this way from the start. look at the stop pin of swisstool spirit,never bend,never broke.
look at the stop pin of swisstool spirit,never bend,never broke.
Quote from: raptor on February 15, 2009, 09:36:24 AMlook at the stop pin of swisstool spirit,never bend,never broke.Those Swiss definitely got it right the first time!
My SURGE!! looks different than either of those Charges. The tab comes in from the side up against the handle as opposed to inline with the handle, and then it folds over on itself forming a flat instead of the pliers head hitting the end of the tab. Is this typical of the Surge, and if so.. have you seen issues with it?