Multitool.org Forum
+-

Hello Lurker! Remove this ad and much more by logging in.


Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?

Vidar · 23 · 1006
« previous next »
Pages: 1   Go Down

no Offline Vidar

  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 1,898
Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
on: September 04, 2018, 10:02:08 AM
In my little feature poll in the general forum a prying bar keeps getting mentioned, and I would like one personally too. My worry though is that having a prying bar is asking for abuse. I might be wrong or too pessimistic about that though, so some real life experiences might help. And as I'm hesitant to break my only Spirit I'll try asking here instead.

I figure the weak spot for a (stiff enough) prying bar is at the tang. The Spirit certainly has an unusually thick flat screwdriver/ prying bar, so that is stiff. My question then is has anyone broken the tang area or made it sloppy when using a the Spirit for prying?
"Simple is hard"
"Hard is hard too"
(Partial disclosure: I design tools for a living).
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month.

no Offline Vidar

  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 1,898
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #1 on: September 04, 2018, 10:11:24 AM
Ah, smurf it. I'll just put that tip in a vise, cross my fingers, and do my worst..  :ahhh
"Simple is hard"
"Hard is hard too"
(Partial disclosure: I design tools for a living).
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month.

ie Offline Don Pablo

  • *
  • Zombie Apprentice
  • ********
    • Posts: 15,292
  • Yoo-hoo, big summer blowout!
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #2 on: September 04, 2018, 11:25:25 AM
Quote from: Vidar on September 04, 2018, 10:11:24 AM
Ah, smurf it. I'll just put that tip in a vise, cross my fingers, and do my worst..  :ahhh
Nooooooooo....  :ahhh
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of the pen for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of  a Bladeless Multitool for 30 days Only for the 14th year Anniversary Challenge. Post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of the modified sak (scale swap not included) for thirty (30) consecutive days.

es Offline ThePeacent

  • *
  • Zombie Apprentice
  • ********
    • Posts: 14,599
  • Firm believer of Sturgeon's Law
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #3 on: September 04, 2018, 12:00:00 PM
I've pried the hell out of it and hasn't broken or bent yet  :salute:

IME the most common failure point is the pivot which can easily get bent and deformed when applying force at the far end of the flathead/prybar/tool, especially if the pivot or rivet is made of softer materials (aluminum, brass, etc.) but those in the Spirit are thick and made of tough material  :like:
« Last Edit: September 04, 2018, 12:01:11 PM by ThePeacent »
My toys:

MTs: Surge (2x), Skeletool CX, Rebar, Blast, Fuse, Micra, Squirt (3x), Wave, Crunch, Mini, Spirit (2x), Pro Scout, MP700 (2x), Diesel, Powerlock, PowerPlier (2x), PocketPowerPlier, Blacktip , ST6 (2x), 5WR, A100

SAKs: Bantam, Executive, Ambassador, Minichamp, Classic Alox, Champion, Farmer, Explorer, Swisschamp, Golf Tool, Wenger Champ, EVO 52, Pocket Tool Chest
Merit Badges  Post a pic for Halloween of your pumpkin (or turnip or gourd or whatever you traditionally carve for Halloween!) being carved by any SAK, multitool, pocket or woods knife you may own!  Only available once a year Complete a 30 day challenge for carrying a different Multi tool each day of the week based on one of the daily carry threads Start a new thread and post a photo of the 110 knife for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your Buck knives in use  Start a new thread and post a photo of the Vic Pioneer X for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread with photos of your chainsaws Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge.

no Offline Vidar

  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 1,898
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #4 on: September 04, 2018, 06:34:50 PM
So, using my lack of better sense, I did try to bend the prying thing on a Spirit by putting the end in a wise and basically pulling the handle sideways from that. To increase leverage I decided that unfolding the handles was a good idea.

So first bend one way while dragging what I can with one hand (needed the other for the camera), then the same the other way, and finally self- release and drag with two hands.. At that point I'm kicking off too so I assume it is about the same as putting the tip in a little crack on a wall and hang my body weight from the handle.


IMG_8375_Spirit.jpg
* IMG_8375_Spirit.jpg (Filesize: 124.93 KB)
IMG_8383_Spirit.jpg
* IMG_8383_Spirit.jpg (Filesize: 135.56 KB)
IMG_8386_Spirit.jpg
* IMG_8386_Spirit.jpg (Filesize: 183.2 KB)
IMG_8393_Spirit.jpg
* IMG_8393_Spirit.jpg (Filesize: 181.17 KB)
"Simple is hard"
"Hard is hard too"
(Partial disclosure: I design tools for a living).
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month.

no Offline Vidar

  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 1,898
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #5 on: September 04, 2018, 06:40:03 PM
I measured the Spirit pivot rivet length before and after these prying actions. No difference whatsoever - 14.27mm before I started, and 14.27mm after. So the rivet is doing fine. And it still folds back perfectly - which given the Spirits low tolerances means it is unaffected and utterly unimpressed by my pull power.

That was both impressive and reassuring!

Anyone know the diameter of that pivot rivet?
IMG_8374_Spirit.jpg
* IMG_8374_Spirit.jpg (Filesize: 111.52 KB)
"Simple is hard"
"Hard is hard too"
(Partial disclosure: I design tools for a living).
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month.

00 Offline Dutch_Tooler

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 4,360
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #6 on: September 04, 2018, 06:41:51 PM
 :o :o :o

That took some guts, that did :salute:
Cheers!
Dutch_Tooler

Location: Southern Germany, most of the time
Merit Badges Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a LM Pocket Survival Tool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your chainsaws Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of the leatherman (supertool, core, hacks) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for thirty (30) consecutive days.  Post a pic for Halloween of your pumpkin (or turnip or gourd or whatever you traditionally carve for Halloween!) being carved by any SAK, multitool, pocket or woods knife you may own!  Only available once a year Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your zip ties in use Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or MT Mod, done by you that includes changing the main chassis of the tool in a significant way. By machining, welding or cutting original design to accept new tool loads. Requests will be reviewed.  Start a new thread and post a photo of the Vic Pioneer X for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Test,please ignore Start a new thread with a photo of a modded knife or multitool with your EDC Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included)

au Offline ReamerPunch

  • Thread Killer 2017
  • *
  • Zombie Apprentice
  • ********
    • Posts: 10,253
  • Born to multitask.
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #7 on: September 04, 2018, 06:42:11 PM
Impressive!  :like:
Merit Badges  Carry tools with single functions only. No multi-tools, no multi-layer Swiss Army Knives, no combo one-piece tools and post a photo for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Delemont SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK-alike, aka multi-layered, knife-based pocket tools for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the leatherman (supertool, core, hacks) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of  a Bladeless Multitool for 30 days Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Farmer X SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. For each of the 30 days, or for as many as you are able to, post a picture of: Progress- Meals- Activities- Gear and participate in the thread and encourage each other. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of your EDC or a component of the EDC that got used during the course of the day for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate and contribute in Challenge thread and post a photo of either an Axe, MT/Folding knife or Fixed blade (picked at the beginning of challenge) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the pen for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the 111mm sak for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of  a Opinel  knife  for 30 days Carry an orange item and post a picture of it everyday for 30 days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participants shall carry and use one Soldier knife, the model of their choosing, for the duration of the 90 days and post a picture each day.

no Offline Steinar

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 3,435
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #8 on: September 04, 2018, 07:49:01 PM
 :dwts:  :hatsoff:

se Offline RF52

  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *******
    • Posts: 5,772
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #9 on: September 04, 2018, 08:20:36 PM
Wow! That is impressive :hatsoff: for having the guts to do that!

Sent fra min FRD-L09 via Tapatalk

Merit Badges Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of  a Case knife  for 30 days Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for fifteen (15) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a 'folding hunter' knife that isn't a Buck 110 for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participants shall carry and use one Soldier knife, the model of their choosing, for the duration of the 90 days and post a picture each day. Build your own version of an MRE using off-the-shelf components, post a photo of the completed MRE and store at room temperature for 6 days or more. Consume the MRE after the storage period and post pictures and descriptions of the contents. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Using EDC items randomly selected with a poker hand, post a photo of your EDC or a component of the EDC that got used during the course of the day for 4 weeks (or 30 consecutive days) Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a Leatherman Skeletool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Participate and contribute in Challenge thread and post a photo of either an Axe, MT/Folding knife or Fixed blade (picked at the beginning of challenge) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a Spyderco knife for thirty (30) consecutive days. Only for the 14th year Anniversary Challenge. Post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for seven (7) consecutive days. Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a LM Pocket Survival Tool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of an Axe for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your slasher/chopper/machete knives in use Start a new thread and post a photo of the keychain for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Swiss Army Knife   Toothpick being used in an unusual way. Start a new thread and post a photo of a fixed blade for thirty (30) consecutive days.

ie Offline Don Pablo

  • *
  • Zombie Apprentice
  • ********
    • Posts: 15,292
  • Yoo-hoo, big summer blowout!
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #10 on: September 04, 2018, 08:20:59 PM
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of the pen for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of  a Bladeless Multitool for 30 days Only for the 14th year Anniversary Challenge. Post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of the modified sak (scale swap not included) for thirty (30) consecutive days.

ch Offline Etherealicer

  • Admin Team
  • *
  • Zombie Apprentice
  • *
    • Posts: 12,032
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #11 on: September 04, 2018, 08:29:23 PM
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing... next up how long has the tube have to be to increase leverage :P
:tu: Happy with that result.
It wouldn't be the internet without people complaining.

no Offline Vidar

  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 1,898
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #12 on: September 04, 2018, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: Etherealicer on September 04, 2018, 08:29:23 PM
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing... next up how long has the tube have to be to increase leverage :P
:tu: Happy with that result.

I was quite happy too! :D Much respect to Victorinox - that thing is proper tough, and they did make the investment in space and weight to make it so.

The handle does flex so the tool provides plenty of feedback that going further isn't a great idea. In normal use I would have stopped long before that.

Of course I can manage to break it at some point somehow if I want to, but for me it was enough to see that it can take lots of human powered abuse without a trace.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2018, 10:35:04 PM by Vidar »
"Simple is hard"
"Hard is hard too"
(Partial disclosure: I design tools for a living).
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month.

england Offline Kev D

  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *******
    • Posts: 8,567
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #13 on: September 04, 2018, 11:18:56 PM
Quote from: Vidar on September 04, 2018, 06:40:03 PM
I measured the Spirit pivot rivet length before and after these prying actions. No difference whatsoever - 14.27mm before I started, and 14.27mm after. So the rivet is doing fine. And it still folds back perfectly - which given the Spirits low tolerances means it is unaffected and utterly unimpressed by my pull power.

That was both impressive and reassuring!

Anyone know the diameter of that pivot rivet?

Hiraethus will probably know the diameter,  he's put a clip one of his so has replaced one of the rivets.
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Must buy an item through the MTo Store Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Must start a thread with a photo of your EDC watch Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a Spyderco knife for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of camping, including those showing preferred camping equipment Must start a thread with a photo of your stayglow SAK Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a new thread with photos of your titanium gear with a multitool or sak Start a new thread with photos of your zip ties in use Start a new thread with a photo of a modded knife or multitool with your EDC Start a new thread and post a picture of fire making kit or fire with a multitool Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa.

us Offline Douglas

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 4,064
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #14 on: September 05, 2018, 06:38:39 AM
 :like: :cheers: GUTSY and IMPRESIVE!
I wonder just how much force could be put on the Swiss Tool Pry tool.  :pok: :pok:
:popcorn: :popcorn: :whistle:
"LOGIC!  My God, the man's talking about logic!  We're talking about Universal Armageddon!"
Dr.  McCoy

MTo...The BEST place on Earth!
Merit Badges Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a picture of a fish or fishing kit with a multitool Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Soldier for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your chainsaws You have one of your pictures in the 2020 calendar or in top three of the calendar poll in any month of the given year. Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a LM Pocket Survival Tool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Explorer SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Swiss Army Knife   Toothpick being used in an unusual way. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your hobo knives in use Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must start a thread showing a photo of at least eight BO tools Start a new thread with photos of your slasher/chopper/machete knives in use You have one of your pictures in the 2019 calendar or in top three of the calendar poll in any month of the given year. You have one of your pictures in the 2018 calendar or in top three of the calendar poll in any month of the given year. Start a new thread including a photo of shooting at least two (2) different airguns and at least one (1) photo of target (airguns) Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days.

wales Offline hiraethus

  • Admin Team
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 6,965
  • I brake for cake
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #15 on: September 05, 2018, 07:16:37 AM
Quote from: Kev D on September 04, 2018, 11:18:56 PM
Quote from: Vidar on September 04, 2018, 06:40:03 PM
I measured the Spirit pivot rivet length before and after these prying actions. No difference whatsoever - 14.27mm before I started, and 14.27mm after. So the rivet is doing fine. And it still folds back perfectly - which given the Spirits low tolerances means it is unaffected and utterly unimpressed by my pull power.

That was both impressive and reassuring!

Anyone know the diameter of that pivot rivet?

Hiraethus will probably know the diameter,  he's put a clip one of his so has replaced one of the rivets.

 :salute:  The pliers pivot is 4mm, but I don't know the size of the one at the other end for sure.  The head looks to be the same size, so I would say it's also 4mm, but I'm just guessing.
Merit Badges Start a thread with photos of at least five different colored ALOX models in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Start a new thread with photos of your titanium gear with a multitool or sak Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a new thread with photos of camping, including those showing preferred camping equipment Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Start a new thread with a photo of a modded knife or multitool with your EDC Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK

wales Offline hiraethus

  • Admin Team
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 6,965
  • I brake for cake
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #16 on: September 05, 2018, 07:18:09 AM
Oh, and I think the pivots on the Spirit are nickel silver.
Merit Badges Start a thread with photos of at least five different colored ALOX models in your collection Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Start a new thread with photos of your titanium gear with a multitool or sak Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Must update or add a page on SAKWiki Must start a thread showing a photo of at least three BO tools Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a new thread with photos of camping, including those showing preferred camping equipment Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Start a new thread with a photo of a modded knife or multitool with your EDC Must start a thread with a photo of your birth year SAK

no Offline Vidar

  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 1,898
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #17 on: September 05, 2018, 08:34:21 AM
Thank you :tu: That is interesting to know as a reference. I might be able to stick a feeler gouge in between the tools and get the diameter fairly well that way.

The right kind and size of steel for the purpose tend to take a lot more abuse than one would think. I'm still impressed by that one though!

"Simple is hard"
"Hard is hard too"
(Partial disclosure: I design tools for a living).
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month.

us Offline Aloha

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Point Of No Return
  • *
    • Posts: 31,235
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #18 on: September 05, 2018, 02:53:53 PM
Quote from: Steinar on September 04, 2018, 07:49:01 PM
:dwts:  :hatsoff:

This is me ^^

Nice to know it could take a fair amount of stress.   
Esse Quam Videri
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of the pen for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days. Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Must start a thread showing a photo of at least eight BO tools Start a new thread showing photos of your outdoor cooking Must have a review written in the proper format and posted on the Main Site Start a new thread with photos of camping, including those showing preferred camping equipment Start a new thread and post a picture of fire making kit or fire with a multitool Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a thread with photos of at least 5 different Juice models in your collection Start a thread with a photo of at least ten OPT's in your collection Start a new thread with photos of a Japanese made PST in your collection

es Offline ThePeacent

  • *
  • Zombie Apprentice
  • ********
    • Posts: 14,599
  • Firm believer of Sturgeon's Law
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #19 on: September 05, 2018, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: Vidar on September 05, 2018, 08:34:21 AM
Thank you :tu: That is interesting to know as a reference. I might be able to stick a feeler gouge in between the tools and get the diameter fairly well that way.

The right kind and size of steel for the purpose tend to take a lot more abuse than one would think. I'm still impressed by that one though!

you could always send an e-mail to Victorinox or ask on their Facebook page,  :think:
they tend to be very helpful providing that kind of information  :salute:
My toys:

MTs: Surge (2x), Skeletool CX, Rebar, Blast, Fuse, Micra, Squirt (3x), Wave, Crunch, Mini, Spirit (2x), Pro Scout, MP700 (2x), Diesel, Powerlock, PowerPlier (2x), PocketPowerPlier, Blacktip , ST6 (2x), 5WR, A100

SAKs: Bantam, Executive, Ambassador, Minichamp, Classic Alox, Champion, Farmer, Explorer, Swisschamp, Golf Tool, Wenger Champ, EVO 52, Pocket Tool Chest
Merit Badges  Post a pic for Halloween of your pumpkin (or turnip or gourd or whatever you traditionally carve for Halloween!) being carved by any SAK, multitool, pocket or woods knife you may own!  Only available once a year Complete a 30 day challenge for carrying a different Multi tool each day of the week based on one of the daily carry threads Start a new thread and post a photo of the 110 knife for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your Buck knives in use  Start a new thread and post a photo of the Vic Pioneer X for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a new thread with photos of your chainsaws Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge.

us Offline gustophersmob

  • *
  • No Life Club
  • ******
    • Posts: 4,104
  • <><
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #20 on: September 05, 2018, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: Aloha007 on September 05, 2018, 02:53:53 PM
Quote from: Steinar on September 04, 2018, 07:49:01 PM
:dwts:  :hatsoff:

This is me ^^

Nice to know it could take a fair amount of stress.

+1  :ahhh

I'm happy to see the positive outcome, though! I knew they were tough, but that was some serious deflection off nominal.  Pretty amazing it returned to zero with no play in the joint. Hats off to vidar and vic  :hatsoff:
If the trees blew down the wind and no one was around, would the alphabet song really go backwards?
Merit Badges Take part in the christmas pool or a rak type giveaway. Those wanting to say thank you for a rak may also nominate for the santa. Join the brave and happy few, who choose a different path. Enter on the boulevard of broken dreams. Start a new thread with photos of your chainsaws Start a new thread and post a picture of a fish or fishing kit with a multitool Start a new thread showing photos of your outdoor cooking Start a new thread with a photo showing the Swiss Army Knife   Toothpick being used in an unusual way.  Post a pic for Halloween of your pumpkin (or turnip or gourd or whatever you traditionally carve for Halloween!) being carved by any SAK, multitool, pocket or woods knife you may own!  Only available once a year Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must buy something on EDCSource Start a new thread and post a photo of the minimal sak (2 layers or fewer) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your Buck knives in use Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Start a new thread with a photo of custom or non standard SAK scales in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of the 111mm sak for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of your carabiners in use Start a thread with a photo of a repair you made with duct tape Must put something in order and provide link to the post. Start a new thread with a photo of your custom ALOX with scissors Start a new thread with a photo showing the Hook in use Start a thread with photos of at least 1 MTO branded tool in your collection Start a new thread including a photo of shooting at least two (2) different firearms and at least one (1) photo of target (firearms)

us Offline NutSAK

  • Admin Team
  • *
  • *
  • Absolutely No Life Club
  • *
    • Posts: 8,369
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #21 on: September 05, 2018, 09:26:35 PM
Well done.  The Spirit shrugged off that abuse!

 :cheers:
- Terry
Merit Badges Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Alox SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of  a Case knife  for 30 days Start a new thread and post a photo of the leatherman (supertool, core, hacks) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days.

us Offline VICMAN

  • *
  • Zombie Apprentice
  • ********
    • Posts: 12,472
Re: Has anyone broken the tang using a flat screwdriver/ prying bar on a Spirit?
Reply #22 on: September 05, 2018, 09:42:49 PM
Quote from: Vidar on September 04, 2018, 06:40:03 PM
I measured the Spirit pivot rivet length before and after these prying actions. No difference whatsoever - 14.27mm before I started, and 14.27mm after. So the rivet is doing fine. And it still folds back perfectly - which given the Spirits low tolerances means it is unaffected and utterly unimpressed by my pull power.

That was both impressive and reassuring!

Anyone know the diameter of that pivot rivet?

Very impressive test Vidar! :like: :tu: :tu: :hatsoff: :hatsoff:

Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a MiniChamp SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a Victorinox 91mm XAVT/XL/XLT, 111mm Workchamp XL, Wenger/Delemont S54/Tool Chest Plus or Wenger Giant for thirty (30) consecutive days Start a new thread and post a photo of the 111mm sak for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the minimal sak (2 layers or fewer) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with photos of at least 8 different 111mm models in your collection Start a new thread with photos of at least 5 different 111mm models in your collection Start a new thread and post a photo of an Executive or Director for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo daily of any SAK 74mm or smaller ( you can switch it up daily ) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a Camper SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of a flashlight as part of your EDC Must start a thread with a photo of your camo SAK Start a new thread with photos of your Buck knives in use Start a new thread and post a photo of the 110 knife for thirty (30) consecutive days. Post your pocket dump photos then challenge two more members who must post their pocket dump photos within 24hrs for you to get the badge. Must start a thread with a photo of your stayglow SAK

Pages: 1   Go Up
 

Donations
Operational Funds

Help us keep the Unworkable working!
Donate with PayPal!
April Goal: $300.00
Due Date: Apr 30
Total Receipts: $158.99
PayPal Fees: $9.20
Net Balance: $149.79
Below Goal: $150.21
Site Currency: USD
50% 
April Donations

Community Links
Multitool.org
Multitool Gallery
Multitool Encyclopedia
SAKWiki
Swiss Army Knights

Powered by EzPortal