Hello!:Could I make any questions, please?-Weight?depends on tool configuration. 9-12+ oz-Dimensions?110x34x22mm-Locking tools? if not will it be provided?yes! All tools lock into place. There is a dual purpose lever in each handle that unlocks the tools as well as releases them from the pivot (more details coming soon)-Release date?shooting to launch campaign in spring, deliver in summer 2019-Price?hoping to keep it under $100 USD with set of modules. It will be made in USA so margins will be tighter than having it manufacturered over seas-More pics-videos on real prototype?we are currently working on a video to showcase the modular pivot functionality. I don't have a timeline and n it's release yet, check back soon!Advertising in the forum must be paid.Administrators will remember it I gladly paid my dues got to keep this community thriving! !
- It seems to be sized similar to the old Victorinox Autotool, which failed miserably largely due to the excessive size. Does that seem like it will be a significant problem for this one?
I really like the design!Some thoughts, feel free to ignore them. Ignore constructive criticism from our customers, peers, and fellow DIYers? That's not how we operate at GOAT Tools - I like the long blades on the scissors, but will the short handle provide enough leverage to use them effectively?Trying to obtain as much scissor blade real estate as possible - if the prototypes prove ineffective the pivot will be moved closer to center. In our experience scissors are not usually used for tasks requiring a large amount of force- I also like the X-Acto blade holder, but I am wondering if the replaceable blade and main blade position should be swapped so that the replaceable blade gets dulled faster than the main blade?Yes! See images below. The long tools can be placed in any of the 4 outer slots (2 per handle)- Speaking of the X-Acto holder, should it be shorter to bring the blade closer to the handle for better control over the blade?See below, this design is meant to be removed and used as a traditional precision knife. We could also design a short version to be used while holding the MT- I love the add-on feature for keys, USB drives etc. - Will the blades and other functions be user replaceable like the old SOG models were?Absolutely! This is our primary mission for the multitool. Pick whichever tools you need, arrange them as you desire, and replace as needed- It seems to be sized similar to the old Victorinox Autotool, which failed miserably largely due to the excessive size. Does that seem like it will be a significant problem for this one?Certainly hope it won't be an issue. It is only a few mm larger than the ever-popular Wave. If our tester feedback reiterates your concern we will likely remove one of the available tool slots (5 on each handle instead of 6) and slim the tool- What carry method? Will it come with a sheath? I assume a pocket clip is out of the question.See image below for one of the concept sheaths. It will be an injection molded 'Holster' style for quick and easy access. Also intend to have a MOLLE style sheath. Depending on demand we might offer classic leather- Can you also consider a blunt nosed plier version? Needle nose type pliers don't benefit much from large, bulky handles.If the tool is successful enough we will be offering numerous plier options. (shears, blunt nose, crimpers/strippers, etc)It looks like an amazing tool, and I am looking forward to seeing it in person when it gets produced. Please put me down for one of the very first ones produced!Def
Would the carbide lathe inserts render them as facepalmingly pathetic as the evaporating cutters on Gerbers? I would suggest looking to high speed steels. Not only would this be better for your tool, but your inserts might render a new MP600 or CentreDrive usable too (business opportunity increased to cover aftermarket sales for other brands, as well as your own)
Looks very promising. I'm looking forward to see what cunning plan you come up with for the tool unlocking/release lever thing... Any thoughts yet on marketing? I'd personally go for various pre-assembled entire tools with different implement complements and with all or most options sold separately.Someone mentioned a pocket clip... might be interesting regardless of the size (some people have large pockets).We are going to be adding a removable pocket clip that will mount externally@Grant: I think "needle-nose" doesn't quite apply here. It's a cross that appears to include relatively narrow, yet thick tips... Gives storage advantages as it's less in the way of any (long) handle tools but retains strength. My engineer's eye likes it. One downside is that narrow spaces such as often found around nuts/bolt heads are not accessible with this...
Dumb question; Will it be that the customer customises their MT on e.g. your website with the tools they want or will you have several models with different tools and then offer (like SOG) that one can order the different tools separately and add them themselves?..Or are you guys doing something completely different?
Quote from: 50ft-trad on September 21, 2018, 02:33:23 PMWould the carbide lathe inserts render them as facepalmingly pathetic as the evaporating cutters on Gerbers? I would suggest looking to high speed steels. Not only would this be better for your tool, but your inserts might render a new MP600 or CentreDrive usable too (business opportunity increased to cover aftermarket sales for other brands, as well as your own)I'm not sure if Gerber is making their cutters in-house or utilizing carbide inserts available elsewhere. We will be testing with industrial carbide inserts that are made for machine shops. If they prove to be too brittle, we will definitely be going a different route .
I actually really like that idea and the concept of that. Will the bit driver be 1/4?The bit driver is standard 1/4". Will likely be designing another version of the bit driver that will accept other companies '2D bits' as well as standard 1/4"How many frames will you be offering or is it only the HD / large frame model you have pictured here?Not immediately at launch, due to the vast cost of starting a line of tools. But we have it in our long term business model to expand the frame optionsWill you be shipping them internationally?Yes! Luckily since they are customizable countries that don't allow mailing knives will be able to order (sans blades, obviously). Also means users can create TSA approved arrangements Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I hope that the tool would be sold in Germany!
Care to give more details on the tool lock/release mechanism? That would interest me a lot. The renderings and drawing suggest a conventional PST-like passive spring-type detent and not an active lock, but I'm sure not all details of the actual mechanism are shown here.Whatever the mechanism is that you guys came up with, it seems a far from trivial task to make this work reliably and still solid and usable enough, assuming it is not based on simply withdrawing a tool pivot pin like with all the other replaceable tools on the market. Don't be afraid to show... Your provisional patent should be sufficient proof against copying...
It does not look like a finished product at all. More of a prototype stage to test the interchangeable tools. The engineering may be solid, but the product design is sub par, and I seriously question how you are going to market a tool named Goat? Who on earth came up with that? The concept is very good, but for now it is back to the drawing board for me.
Quote from: microbe on September 23, 2018, 11:58:12 PMIt does not look like a finished product at all. More of a prototype stage to test the interchangeable tools. The engineering may be solid, but the product design is sub par, and I seriously question how you are going to market a tool named Goat? Who on earth came up with that? The concept is very good, but for now it is back to the drawing board for me.GOAT is kind of a trend in the US right now. It means greatest of all time. It is also subtituted by the emoji at times. Example: Grant=
Quote from: gdoolittle on September 24, 2018, 01:52:21 AMQuote from: microbe on September 23, 2018, 11:58:12 PMIt does not look like a finished product at all. More of a prototype stage to test the interchangeable tools. The engineering may be solid, but the product design is sub par, and I seriously question how you are going to market a tool named Goat? Who on earth came up with that? The concept is very good, but for now it is back to the drawing board for me.GOAT is kind of a trend in the US right now. It means greatest of all time. It is also subtituted by the emoji at times. Example: Grant= I rest my case
GOAT = Gentlemen Of All Trades. Because our MT was designed from the start to be modular, we are looking forward to customers of varying professions, backgrounds, and lifestyles customizing it up as it suits them.