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Possible 93mm expedition questions 1290

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Possible 93mm expedition questions
« on: December 02, 2018, 02:28:42 PM »
Hi folks!

Some time ago I did a small mod that I called the expedition and has been my side (in my pocket) almost exclusively since I made it
Link

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I'm now thinking about doing it again but this time from the 93mm frame.

I have a farmer and the magnifying glas/Philip's layer

But now to my questions


1: Are the pins 3mm on the 93mm frame?
2: I need an extra blade spring from a 93mm frame?
3. Do I have to mod the magnifier or Phillips in any way to make this work?

Have a nice day!
Kottskrapa

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2018, 02:41:54 PM »
1. Yes (the outer ones, the inner one is 2.5 mm)
2. Yes
3. Yes, you'll need to grind down the corner protrusions on the Phillips tang, but carefully. The magnifier does not need modifying at the tang but will sit high when closed, so you might want to shave off the nail nub.

Cheers!
Dutch_Tooler

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2018, 02:44:23 PM »
Thanks for a quick answer!

Seems like pretty straight forward mod

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2018, 03:32:39 PM »
 :hatsoff:

I forgot to mention you'll need an extra liner.

Also, the drilling out of the pivots should be done with care, they are much harder than the 91 mm brass ones. Use of a drill press and centre punch is advisable.

Other than that it should be a straightforward mod, yes.

Let us know how it goes  :popcorn:
« Last Edit: December 02, 2018, 03:33:50 PM by Dutch_Tooler »

Cheers!
Dutch_Tooler

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2018, 05:41:36 PM »
Thanks! Totally forgot about a second liner!

No problem, i actually used that for previously donors too

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 05:23:48 AM »
If you use the old style Philips and mag glass than you only have to drill them out.  If the mag glass sits to high for you, then you can make a recess in the spring so it sits lower.
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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 05:59:02 AM »
Thanks for the tip, but if it gets done I will use the new shorter one. That's the one I have

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 09:06:08 AM »
@Simyo, I agree in principle, but I'd add a word of caution regarding the backspring. If you wanted a nice finish then you'd normally grind, but springs have been known not to like this - the heat generated apparently impinges on the heat treatment of the spring steel used, to the point that the name 'spring' steel becomes a misnomer. If anything, I'd just use a file and sanding paper, and a light touch on both.  :cheers:

Cheers!
Dutch_Tooler

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 11:13:43 AM »
You'll need to get the parts over a couple of hundred degrees C before you start to affect the heat treatment, so as long as you keep the parts cool you'll be fine.  Don't wear gloves - if you can pick it up with your fingers you won't be doing any harm.
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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 06:51:57 PM »
One step closer!

Just waiting for the post to deliver a gift from Pablo and some spare time and hopefully this will become reality



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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 07:06:10 PM »
Does your post deliver this weekend?

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2018, 07:35:48 PM »
Yes, but they don't function as they should during the rest of the year and now with all the Christmas mail it's even worse.. My hopes is starting to fade

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2018, 09:36:51 PM »
Well, keep an eye on the postbox!  :cheers:

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2018, 09:48:38 PM »
I'm waiting for the mailman like the neighbour's dog

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2018, 10:44:27 PM »
 :rofl: :like:
I know the feeling...

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2018, 06:06:18 PM »
Thanks Pablo!

Last part that I needed! Now I just have to take everything apart and put it back together again








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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2018, 06:46:12 PM »
Glad it's safe!  :cheers:

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2018, 07:09:45 PM »
Glad it's safe!  :cheers:
Me too! Thanks mate unfortunately I don't have the dmtime to do it before Christmas but as soon the time arrives I will take the doners apart. I need access to a shop with a Pilar drill to take them apart but then I can do it at me own pace at home. Got my self an old anvil some time ago

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2018, 07:57:26 PM »
 :popcorn:

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2018, 11:56:18 AM »
One step closer.. I hope I will get started next Friday



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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2018, 12:50:20 PM »
I've learnt some Swedish now!  :like: 8)

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2018, 02:33:15 PM »
You can read my bad writing? And some are in English

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2018, 03:44:25 PM »
 :popcorn:  Good luck with the mod.  Its gonna turn out awesome.   :tu:

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2018, 05:55:16 PM »
Go Kotti go  :tu:  :like:

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2019, 10:42:54 AM »
Soo... I got my self this far.. And before I start to file down the Philips I just want to make shore which side on the spring that is right.. Does the Phillips go on the long side of the spring and the mag on the short?
Like this?




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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2019, 11:52:35 AM »
Here's a pic from my last mod for reference  :salute:

Older version but the positions didn't change.

Good luck  :tu:

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2019, 01:00:26 PM »
Thanks Matt! This is not the original spring but a blade spring and that made me unsure

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2019, 10:04:16 AM »
Here it is! I did take of a tiny bit to much on the Phillips and should have made the corners a bit more smooth but it will work.. And I need some more practice with my peening.. But it's working and I will use it to break it in and who knows.. I might correct something or just leave it as it is







With the celidor brother





Thanks for awl the help on this one!

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2019, 10:31:47 AM »
Very nice kottskrapa :like:

Cheers!
Dutch_Tooler

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Re: Possible 93mm expedition questions
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2019, 10:32:15 AM »
Looks fantastic Kotts!  :cheers: nice tool set.  :like:

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