I am beginning to understand why GEC or should I say how GEC has grown to be what they are today. I don't own one yet but from all I read and all I've seen they are carrying on a wonderful tradition of knife making. They seem to be very focused on quality. I watched a 3 part series on how they go about making a knife and it was pretty darn good. As for Camillus, I have one and its a good knife. It really is a shame when what I would tend to believe is a blue collar company loose its "direction" or whatever the sum of what happened happened. Maybe I'm being overly nostalgic this morning.