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Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread 33308

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #60 on: April 23, 2019, 04:45:59 AM »
Can any of you guys that have one comment on the “hammer” that the pliers form when the tool is closed? Would you feel comfortable giving a few whacks with it, or does it seem like bad force to be at plying to the pliers and a likely way to smurf up the tool
 :cheers:

While the pliers are beefy, I would not recommend using them as a hammer. There are tabs that are exposed when the pliers are in the closed position. Buggering up them up might result in difficulty in locking the pliers into the handles in the open position.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #61 on: April 23, 2019, 05:07:20 AM »
Some interesting feedback here  :tu: Better than i expected, but i cannot loose the feeling that something doesn‘t add up. For the price they are selling it i just expected more i guess  ???

The 2D Philips, short file and ruler don‘t seem to fit a tool this price range and neither does the sheath.

Maybe it‘s just me. I like the old Leathernan tools (Pst, Super Tool) and was never fond of the newer versions.
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #62 on: April 23, 2019, 06:37:26 AM »
Can anyone compare the Free phillips to the LM phillips/flat exchanger bit the Wave/Charge/Signal/Surge/etc comes with?

I'm a big fan of LM's flattened driver bits(they bite better than 90% of full-phillips drivers on other tools) and am curious to know if the Free phillips bites the same or similarly?

The whole waiting thing is eating at me. :rofl:
Guess now I remember why I usually wait a while to order new tools.  :ahhh

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Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #63 on: April 23, 2019, 03:18:31 PM »
The Philips seems to bite just as well as the bit. In fact, maybe a little better in the larger screws. Having said that, if you bend it you can’t easily replace it like a bit.


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #64 on: April 23, 2019, 03:20:47 PM »
When it comes to Phillips, i am exactly the opposite. Hate the 2D version and always prefer the 3D one. Someone in this thread tested it already and said it was great though :)

I am really looking forward to a side-by-side test with a Wave or a Surge  :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #65 on: April 23, 2019, 03:23:19 PM »
Thanks all for posting your experiences so far.  I do like the looks of this tool. 

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2019, 03:40:41 PM »
OK. I just received mine as a gift so I was surprised when it came in. It’s better than I expected but not fantastic.

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Th knives are nicely shaped and came moderately sharp. I touched both  up and they cut well. Just wish they had better steel.
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This is the side with the Philips and pry. Very thick tools and appear to be strong.
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This is the Philips driver. I tried it on a few screws and it works MUCH better than I expected. Still needs a bit driver though.

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The pry bar seems especially well made.
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This is the awl. I tried it on some wood. If you have a small pilot hole it cuts well but I wonder how well the tip will hold up.
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This is the medium driver/ruler. Looks a little thin but time will tell. It may work since there is a dedicated pry bar.
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I really like the pliers. They seem to be very well made and strong.
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These are the magnetic catches. They seem to work well but I wonder how much metal they will attract.
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The scissors work well and are better than the Wave scissors.
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I haven’t tried the saw but it looks like it will work fine.
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The overall fit and finish is very good. The tools on one side did inadvertently open when I CLOSED the pliers one handed with a sharp snap. The outer tools stayed in place though.

This tool is well done but I still think it’s overpriced. The tools themselves seem no better that ST 300 quality. However, if this tool is upgraded with better knife steel, a bit driver and a t shank adapter it would be fantastic. As is, is decent but about $50-75 too expensive.

I was wrong about one thing for sure. It’s a great platform but needs a few changes to make it elite.

By the way, the sheath is definitely meh....




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Great feedback gadgetman.  :hatsoff:

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #67 on: April 23, 2019, 03:46:32 PM »
The Philips seems to bite just as well as the bit. In fact, maybe a little better in the larger screws. Having said that, if you bend it you can’t easily replace it like a bit.


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Thank you, gadgetman7! :salute:

I use the exchangeable "flat" bits very frequently, and aside from the short reach, they(LM flat phillips bits) seem to perform just was well as a regular SAK inline/SwissTool phillips. But, that said, not quite as well as the full sized non-replaceable LM and Gerber phillips drivers.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #68 on: April 23, 2019, 07:38:53 PM »
I wonder what the engraving I circled in blue on the ruler/screwdriver means. Maybe a tool adapter?

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 The engraving showing a stripped wire looks more like a Dremel tool attachment to me :D

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #69 on: April 23, 2019, 11:52:59 PM »
Mine has arrived, and I do rather like it so far :D
The pliers are nice and solid.  All the tools seem good from what I can tell.  I’m not a heavy user at all, so don’t expect much of that kind of review from me.  Everything being one hand accessible is very nice though, and it will be a great fiddle factor MT.  The phillips and prybar tools are very thick.  I will post pics shortly.


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #70 on: April 23, 2019, 11:55:08 PM »




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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2019, 12:09:40 AM »
Nice one Monrogue and nice pics  :like: :tu:
It does look good  :dd:

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2019, 12:18:47 AM »
 :iagree: congrats !
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #73 on: April 24, 2019, 12:32:25 AM »
Thanks guys.  The new logo works with this new style they created with the Free series.  It seems well built and solid, yet thinner and light enough to not feel like a brick in the pocket.  Looking at it from the side sort of reminds me of the SOG PowerAccess, only more solid feeling.

K-Tibbs
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2019, 01:00:26 AM »
Looking good Monrogue  :salute:

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #75 on: April 24, 2019, 01:17:49 AM »
:popcorn:

I also want to mention the handle splay, which I’m pretty sure you’ve brought up as an issue with other MT’s, and is a concern I share having small-average sized hands.  It is not an issue for me with the P2, which is also a plus


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #76 on: April 24, 2019, 01:18:39 AM »

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #77 on: April 24, 2019, 01:19:07 AM »
Need.  More.  Pictures.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #78 on: April 24, 2019, 01:19:47 AM »
Congrats, Monrogue! :woohoo:

Dear god, that phillips is thick. Can we really call it 2D anymore?

The splay does look reasonable as well.  Thank you for the info and pics!  :multi:

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #79 on: April 24, 2019, 01:22:25 AM »
Congrats, Monrogue! :woohoo:

Dear god, that phillips is thick. Can we really call it 2D anymore?

The splay does look reasonable as well.  Thank you for the info and pics!  :multi:
:cheers:
Yes, both that and the prybar are very solid indeed.  And flicking the pliers open and squeezing the handles in place has such a nice click to it.  This thing is rather fun :multi:

K-Tibbs
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #80 on: April 24, 2019, 01:24:43 AM »
Can anyone comment or take pictures of the elastomer bits? Curious to see how the plastic parts are executed.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #81 on: April 24, 2019, 01:34:38 AM »
Can anyone comment or take pictures of the elastomer bits? Curious to see how the plastic parts are executed.
Are those the black bits around the handle pivots? 



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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #82 on: April 24, 2019, 01:38:32 AM »
:cheers:
Yes, both that and the prybar are very solid indeed.  And flicking the pliers open and squeezing the handles in place has such a nice click to it.  This thing is rather fun :multi:
Thank you. Very cool with the pry tool and extra thick phillips. :)
Oh man. I gotta wait until after work tomorrow to get my hands on the P2. And then sometimes UPS doesn't deliver until 8pm. :ahhh

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #83 on: April 24, 2019, 01:42:49 AM »
Are those the black bits around the handle pivots? 
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I honestly don’t know  :dunno:

In the shot videos they mentioned it and how they tested it for a million cycles, but they never showed what part s they were or what they did.

Since it’s a new bit of “tech” like the magnets, I’m curious to see how it all works.

Thanks for the pic!  :cheers:

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #84 on: April 24, 2019, 01:48:52 AM »
I also want to mention the handle splay, which I’m pretty sure you’ve brought up as an issue with other MT’s, and is a concern I share having small-average sized hands.  It is not an issue for me with the P2, which is also a plus (Image removed from quote.)


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Yeah, the pictures I've seen with the jaws closed, does look like an improvement over their recent trends in that regard. Thanks for the confirmation, and the open jaw pic, Kyle  :salute:



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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #85 on: April 24, 2019, 01:52:42 AM »
I appreciate each who have shared their impressions and pictures of the new toys. 

One item I have not read, yet, is the pocket clip and how the P2 and P4 will ride in a front pocket. 

Thank you AWL


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #86 on: April 24, 2019, 01:55:54 AM »
Thank you. Very cool with the pry tool and extra thick phillips. :)
Oh man. I gotta wait until after work tomorrow to get my hands on the P2. And then sometimes UPS doesn't deliver until 8pm. :ahhh
I look forward to your impressions as well :cheers:

K-Tibbs
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #87 on: April 24, 2019, 01:56:44 AM »
I honestly don’t know  :dunno:

In the shot videos they mentioned it and how they tested it for a million cycles, but they never showed what part s they were or what they did.

Since it’s a new bit of “tech” like the magnets, I’m curious to see how it all works.

Thanks for the pic!  :cheers:

Well they do appear to be plastic, but they are difficult to see, and to capture in a pic. 

K-Tibbs
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2019, 01:59:02 AM »
Yeah, the pictures I've seen with the jaws closed, does look like an improvement over their recent trends in that regard. Thanks for the confirmation, and the open jaw pic, Kyle  :salute:

Anytime buddy :cheers:

K-Tibbs
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
« Reply #89 on: April 24, 2019, 02:00:35 AM »
I appreciate each who have shared their impressions and pictures of the new toys. 

One item I have not read, yet, is the pocket clip and how the P2 and P4 will ride in a front pocket. 

Thank you AWL

I can’t say on that yet, but will be in jeans at work on Friday and will have it clipped to my right front pocket.


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