Oh boy!For one thing; and thesis a very long time gripe of mine; ditch the cellidor scales for a more modern and better material like FRN, Delrin, whatever. ANYTHING but the cellidor. Even the nylon like on the economy line is more durable. Anything that won't crack and break off when it falls of a kitchen counter to a tile floor. Or starts to dissolve if in contact with some mosquito repellents or gun cleaning solvents. There just better material now and just as cheap. The material the Gerber LST uses is great!Then, bring out a cadet with an awl in place of the nail file. An awl is infinitely more useful and adds a second cutting edge for stripping wire, busting zip ties and such. And finally, take out the orange peeler on the executive and replace it with a small combo tool. and offer a version of the executive with a full serrated blade. Oh, while I'm complaining, do something about the keyring mount on the pioneer. No other SAK has a keyring mount that digs into the hand like the pioneer. It just sticks right up there at an abrupt angle unlike all the other SAK's that has it more down and not so poky. Why is the alox SAK's get an obnoxious keyring mount? If in doubt, BRING BACK THE HOLLOW RIVIT!!!!!!!!
I don’t use the toothpick except to point on a map. I would love to find something to replace it with.
Have you considered the Firefly?https://tortoisegear.com/products/
My only peeve is that I can't have them awl...
I've read through this entire thread. Being a person of great creativity myself, I can find many things to wish were different. However, I'm still pretty new at the SAK thing, though I've been and admirer from afar for quite some time......
All that brings me to this....I'd like them to introduce a whole new line of knives--maybe two sizes, say, 95mm and 80 mm-- that would be a whole new departure. These would not be to detract from the existing models, which are great in their own realm. These would be UTILITARIAN primarily, aimed at being innovative, useful, repairable, and sturdy versus collectible. The existing product lines can be maintained for their collectability (why not, that's part of the charm). The new line would be modular, held together with screws, have all locking tools, and highly modifiable and customizable right out of the gate. I also recommend a 5-pivot design. So the two sides of the knife would each have tool hinges at each end (2+2 =4), and also a center pivot like the one currently used for the corkscrew. Some mod combinations might choose to eliminate the center pivot. Then a whole long catalog of long and short tools could be put into those 5 pivots (all of which would lock, probably using an annular/concentric locking system in each pin, at least for the larger model). These could be bought pre-assembled by custom order at the factory, or you could buy a starter kit plus the mods you wanted. This whole system would work like the many mods available for AR rifles and people could come up with endless customization ideas.Now if Victorinox doesn't want to be bothered doing this, maybe somebody else would?
I've read through this entire thread. Being a person of great creativity myself, I can find many things to wish were different. However, I'm still pretty new at the SAK thing, though I've been and admirer from afar for quite some time.1. Replacement scales should be far cheaper and easier to get. (Celidor, I especially mean)2. Alox and walnut should definitely have scale tools.3. There could be more kinds of scale tools.4. I would enjoy seeing wood scales out of additional types of wood. Holly, cherry, rosewood, etc.5. I do feel there is a lack of understanding in the "what combination of tools makes a good knife" department.7. I would like to see more serrated blades as a second blade.8. Ideally, all tools would be lockable. But that would require a total redesign, so stay tuned for the huge suggestion I'll make down below.9. I would like to see more done with the 74 mm line, including some mini versions of the 91 stuff, including saws.10. I would like to see a small fork tool (thin and maybe about a cm wide with 3 prongs) for eating, on some models.All that brings me to this....I'd like them to introduce a whole new line of knives--maybe two sizes, say, 95mm and 80 mm-- that would be a whole new departure. These would not be to detract from the existing models, which are great in their own realm. These would be UTILITARIAN primarily, aimed at being innovative, useful, repairable, and sturdy versus collectible. The existing product lines can be maintained for their collectability (why not, that's part of the charm). The new line would be modular, held together with screws, have all locking tools, and highly modifiable and customizable right out of the gate. I also recommend a 5-pivot design. So the two sides of the knife would each have tool hinges at each end (2+2 =4), and also a center pivot like the one currently used for the corkscrew. Some mod combinations might choose to eliminate the center pivot. Then a whole long catalog of long and short tools could be put into those 5 pivots (all of which would lock, probably using an annular/concentric locking system in each pin, at least for the larger model). These could be bought pre-assembled by custom order at the factory, or you could buy a starter kit plus the mods you wanted. This whole system would work like the many mods available for AR rifles and people could come up with endless customization ideas.Now if Victorinox doesn't want to be bothered doing this, maybe somebody else would?
But why not?
I agree with some of your points, but the "lockable" part on pocket sized knives i fully disagree...What is it with people and locking blades on pocket sized knives...? Who can actually need a 6 to 8 cm sized utility slip joint blade to lock...?A big part of why SAK's up to 91mm are not considered illegal to carry in a lot of countries (at least without a darn good valid reason to) is because they are slip joints (AKA: dosen't lock...). Puting locks on those knives/tools would be an almost guaranteed "illegalization" to carry on most countries.....I think the locks on the 85mm delemonts are stupid enough...There is only one thing that makes me cringe even more than the suggestion of putting locks on pocket sized SAK's, it's the suggestion of enbeded pocket clips...
Have to agree with you about the locks. I know there is a huge market for lock knives but if you can’t carry it then it limits the utility I would love a wine master however that much money on a knife I cannot carry without good reason in the uk is not an investment I can afford.In a lot of cases a slip joint is more then secure enough. Felix Immler uses one a lot of the time.
Mine is the corporate obsession with an opener layer in models that have other tools.
Yes, I understand the issue of locks being illegal in some countries. For these knives to be sold there, they would have to have optional non-locking pieces.I am a fan of locks on all tools, because it makes them easier to use. I hate it when my reamer pivots on me when I'm trying to use it, for instance. I like something to be sturdy and rigid while I'm using it, because remembering to keep something from closing up on me is one more thing to have to think about, when I'd really rather be thinking about the work I'm doing with the knife or tool. Think about it--you grab a Phillips screwdriver, and it's all one piece. It doesn't fold up on you while you try to use it. Neither does your hammer, or your hacksaw. Knife blades and tools shouldn't either.
Yeah, I think I'm moving away from wishing SAK's had locks, and toward wishing there were a competitor that made small lockable multi-tool knives with the features I'm looking for.
Join us over here.... https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,84310.0.htmlHave you looked at Swiza knives?
Gah! my pet peeve is our incessant desire for Victorinox to make it easier for us to mod their product. But I am of the opinion the Perfect is the enemy of Good.
I guess I want an easily modable knife system that is not Victorinox, then, and doesn't presuppose a pliers-based interface.
And why doesn't Vic sell scales normally? I'd like to be able to find them more easily.
I totally agree, the ones that are available via eBay are almost the price of a new SAK.But then...that could be the 'plan' as I ended up purchasing several Spartans and Climbers just so I could have different scale colors and designs.
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