You can’t go wrong with a standard Pioneer to start your collection off
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Good advice.I see that this is the old "Soldier", I have to find out if it is for sale on my Italian Amazon.Edit: Yes, Victorinox, V08201.26B1 (Soldier) is available (28 euro)
That seems like a good price to me - It is a Pioneer - Which is very similar to the Soldier model See the differences here:https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=PioneerI'm not quite sure what the B1 is in the product code!
Darn it guys I was so happy with the SAKs I had. Now all this talk about Alox makes me wanna buy some too! But which one(s) (Image removed from quote.)I really like the blue Alox. How are they holding up in a pocket?
So you started out small and slim and now you are going even bigger !!! How about this for a plan:Get the Farmer - 2E for 2mm and another tool is a great deal - And this is a tough capable tool eg for outdoor useThen when founds are available again - You can get a Cadet for a nice slim carry You're only missing the scissors - And as mentioned above with a little Classic you get that and the scale tools too !!
So you started out small and slim and now you are going even bigger !!! How about this for a plan:Get the Farmer - 2E for 2mm and another tool is a great deal - And this is a tough capable tool eg for outdoor useThen when funds are available again - You can get a Cadet for a nice slim carry You're only missing the scissors - And as mentioned above with a little Classic you get that and the scale tools too !!
@G-DizzleThanks a lot for pics !
It takes more than I expected to wear alox coloring, but honestly they look really cool worn too.
This may help with the size comparison as well. I see you are from Italy. From what I hear, Opinels are common there. I could be wrong though. Here is the Cadet next to an Opinel No8 that my fiance brought back for me from Florence.
I'm not quite sure what the B1 is in the product code!
(Although I have read on the internet various opinions of users disappointed by its too small thickness)
I think its worth clarifying that the springs and tools on the 84mm alox knives are no different than on the 84mm cellidor equivalents and the pins are the same diameter. I do think the 84mm alox knives will likely be stronger because the aluminum scales are thicker than the aluminum scale liners used on the cellidor models, and the pins are nickle-silver instead of brass.Now, the springs and tools are indeed thicker on the 93mm alox range, and the scales themselves are thicker than those of the 84mm alox range, so they will be even more "sturdy."All that said, for what I would be willing to use a folding knife for, I think the cellidor models are plenty strong enough. If I need stronger, I go to a fixed blade.I awlways recommedn the pioneer, as I truly think its the greatest pocket knife ever made. The cadet is also a great choice.
Great post. I agree about the Pioneer (alox Soldier in my case)
Great post. I agree about the Pioneer (alox Soldier in my case). An absolutely brilliant design. It's still slim enough for a pocket and has a nice weight. It feels good in the hand. The openers are larger and stronger than 91mm. The awl is superb. The knife feels indestructible. I have a Voyageur that's about the same weight and thickness as the Cadet. That's too slim for me, so I've not bothered with a Cadet. I prefer to carry a Sportsman instead.
Soldier and Pioneer are the same thing, right ?I ask this because on Amazon I see the Soldier at 28 euros while the Pioneer is just over 30 euros.
If you are seeing a soldier listed on amazon, I’d be surprised if it’s the alox kind as they’ve been discontinued since 2008 (I think). The current soldier model is entirely different and based on the 111mm platform.
It is a Pioneer - Which is very similar to the Soldier model See the differences here:https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=PioneerI'm not quite sure what the B1 is in the product code!