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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #30 on: January 13, 2020, 05:09:26 PM
All hail the mighty 58s. 
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #31 on: January 13, 2020, 05:13:11 PM
When I rode full time as my only transportation ( Honda CBR ) I waved to everyone however cruisers rarely if ever waved back :(.  It didn't keep me from waving tho  :salute:

Nice post nate j  :iagree:.  I see a lot of pocket clips around my parts.  I wonder if age demographic ( laws aside ) play a part as well?  I realize laws are a big part of knife carry so I was trying to think otherwise.  As to the "big ones"?  Seems we hit this topic every so often so to my way of thinking age is relevant. 

As we age we see need as being different.  Our younger selves buy more on the want basis ( generalizing ).  Stuffed pockets with every doodad to take on scenarios imagined or actual.   Mors said "The more you know the less you carry".  While in theory I can relate, scenarios dictate more of my philosophy. 

Those who carry only a SAK and particularly the 58s, 74s or Wengers of similar size alway intrigue me.  Mind you, this means no other tools at your disposal :pok:

   

Aloha, look at me, you're so totally right about that. Age means everything in choices we make. I look back on some of the things I did and choices I made as a young man, and I think, "What the hell was I thinking??????"

Choices in guns carried, cars driven, purchases made that should never have been purchased. Overly foolish acts that all begin with "Hold my beer and watch this!" Followed by a trip to the ER.

When I was a young stud full of vinegar, I carried a 5 layer SAK, and a Randall number 14 was my woods walking/camping/backpacking knife of choice. The darn Bowie knife size thing was as heavy as a small pistol. After I grew up it got sold off along with the other Randall's that were over built thick bladed knives with run of the mill edge holding. My backpacking knife went from that Randall 14 to a Victorinox hiker, then my old Wenger SI. To my surprise I survived just fine.

Now, older, and I pray to God wiser, I've went from 5 to 4 to 3 to 2 layer SAK's and get by in my daily life just fine. I even use (gasp) one layer SAK's with great success. I never would have done so in my 20's or even my 30's. In my 40's was what I recall as the start of my changing attitudes on things.  My 50's was a kind awakening, and the first time I remember looking back on my younger days and thinking "What was I thinking?"

When I was a young guy, I remember seeing all these 'old' guys with tiny pen knives. the little two blade jobs that were like 2 1/2 to maybe 3 inches tops closed. I thought why are they carrying those little things? They look useless. I think the definition of young and dumb was me. Now, as a certified old fart, I can see the wisdom of those little pen knives. They worked. Like my dad told me, "It doesn't have to be big, just sharp."

I think it takes some years of bark on the tree to appreciate what the old guys know. It is all about age.
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #32 on: January 13, 2020, 06:06:52 PM
And mileage! :rofl:
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #33 on: January 13, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
I ride a Vespa scooter and wave to all the other two-wheeling folks.  I get a kick out of getting a wave back.  From my recollection, it's hardest to get a wave from Harley Davidson riders, but some do and I always feel happy to receive the acknowledgment that riding on two wheels is fun.
My longest ride was a 600 mile loop down to San Felipe, Baja Mexico and back a couple of years ago.

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As for SAKs, I must now have scissors.  I carry a Vagabond, so that does cover it, but I don't mind carrying up to 5 or 6 layers in a 91mm.
I think the sweet spot is 3 to 4 layers and any mods I have made for me are usually in that size.
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #34 on: January 13, 2020, 06:25:24 PM
Great pic Lisa!!
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #35 on: January 13, 2020, 06:29:45 PM
Hello guys!
Age and experience means a lot.
I travel for work reasons. And have a EDC kit in backpack.
But on pockets, only a small sak or a Dime and a Kershaw Shuffle (loving this little one).
Is very nice meet people carrying SAKs. Each one for different reasons and pourposes.
I'm also a VW geek/nerd/enthusiast. And drive my small town friendly VW UP! Or my small old-pocket-rocket-pickup Saveiro.
Collect VW memorabilia and of course wave to other owners of old VW.
Bônus pic.
Saveiro MK1 (Black) like mine
Saveiro MK5 (Yellow)

Enviado de meu moto g(6) usando o Tapatalk



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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #36 on: January 13, 2020, 06:51:53 PM
I ride a Vespa scooter and wave to all the other two-wheeling folks.  I get a kick out of getting a wave back.  From my recollection, it's hardest to get a wave from Harley Davidson riders, but some do and I always feel happy to receive the acknowledgment that riding on two wheels is fun.
My longest ride was a 600 mile loop down to San Felipe, Baja Mexico and back a couple of years ago.
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Vespa GTS250
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As for SAKs, I must now have scissors.  I carry a Vagabond, so that does cover it, but I don't mind carrying up to 5 or 6 layers in a 91mm.
I think the sweet spot is 3 to 4 layers and any mods I have made for me are usually in that size.

Ohhh, I'm jealous !!!!

After I quite motorcycles, my ride was Vespa. A PX150 for some years, then a GT200. I miss the almost magical smooth quiet ride down the road with he GT200. A great longer ride/touring machine. I had a wind screen like yours on my 200. That scoot may have been my favorite ride, even over my BMW! So refined. Great scoot.  :tu: :tu: :tu:
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #37 on: January 13, 2020, 06:53:12 PM
I ride a Vespa scooter and wave to all the other two-wheeling folks.  I get a kick out of getting a wave back.  From my recollection, it's hardest to get a wave from Harley Davidson riders, but some do and I always feel happy to receive the acknowledgment that riding on two wheels is fun.
My longest ride was a 600 mile loop down to San Felipe, Baja Mexico and back a couple of years ago.
(Image removed from quote.)
Vespa GTS250
(Image removed from quote.)

As for SAKs, I must now have scissors.  I carry a Vagabond, so that does cover it, but I don't mind carrying up to 5 or 6 layers in a 91mm.
I think the sweet spot is 3 to 4 layers and any mods I have made for me are usually in that size.
Nice ride!  :like: :cheers:


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #38 on: January 13, 2020, 06:59:08 PM
Hello guys!
Age and experience means a lot.
I travel for work reasons. And have a EDC kit in backpack.
But on pockets, only a small sak or a Dime and a Kershaw Shuffle (loving this little one).
Is very nice meet people carrying SAKs. Each one for different reasons and pourposes.
I'm also a VW geek/nerd/enthusiast. And drive my small town friendly VW UP! Or my small old-pocket-rocket-pickup Saveiro.
Collect VW memorabilia and of course wave to other owners of old VW.
Bônus pic.
Saveiro MK1 (Black) like mine
Saveiro MK5 (Yellow)(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)

Enviado de meu moto g(6) usando o Tapatalk
Didn’t know about this model and had to google it! The Saveiro and Gol are nice pick ups  :cheers:


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #39 on: January 13, 2020, 07:48:44 PM


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #40 on: January 13, 2020, 07:57:31 PM
Great pic Lisa!!
Thank you Barry!  :cheers:
I miss the almost magical smooth quiet ride down the road with he GT200. A great longer ride/touring machine. I had a wind screen like yours on my 200. That scoot may have been my favorite ride, even over my BMW! So refined. Great scoot.  :tu: :tu: :tu:
I was looking for a used GT200 when I found the GTS250.  Those GT200s are getting harder to find, and folks love 'em!  My seat is actually a modified GT200 seat, SO VERY comfortable!
Nice Vespa and pics FB! :like: :tu: :tu:
Thank you Vicman!  :cheers:
Rest in peace ColoSwiss, you will always be remembered.


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #41 on: January 13, 2020, 08:30:44 PM
 :2tu: FB and HEVY.  Awesome rides.  Had a friend who was a mod and rode a Lambretta with tons of mirrors.  My brother and I picked up a Vespa but I cannot recall the model tho it was an older one.  It was a very fun bike to ride. 

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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #42 on: January 13, 2020, 08:59:19 PM
I agree!  I knew VW marketed different models in different areas, but I'd love to have one of those to replace my Baja!  It's great to find VW pilots here :tu:
Didn’t know about this model and had to google it! The Saveiro and Gol are nice pick ups  :cheers:
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #43 on: January 13, 2020, 09:06:42 PM
 :iagree: 110%
My last bug went to the Ford dealership where I picked up a new Escort...good thing because it died there quite literally!  :facepalm:


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #44 on: January 14, 2020, 05:37:02 AM
The women do so love the classic. I had totally ignored the classic as a kind of keychain joke, until my better half turned me on to what can really be done with a classic.  Only after watching her abuse and torture a classic for a few months, did I go get one and do my own 'experiment'. What you folks call a challenge.

I have a theory that the women folk, unhampered by male ego and attitude, just use what works for them. I know I've learned a great deal by watching my... literally... better half.

I think some of it comes down to hand and finger size and comfort in hand.  While unarguably capable, the 58mm knives just feel a bit small and fiddly in my larger-than-average hands.  I prefer full-size Bic lighters over Bic minis for the same reason.


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #45 on: January 14, 2020, 06:08:23 AM
So much fun reading thru this thread, but in no way, form or shape I am gonna ever let my wife see this thread, especially this good post below...

The women do so love the classic. I had totally ignored the classic as a kind of keychain joke, until my better half turned me on to what can really be done with a classic.  Only after watching her abuse and torture a classic for a few months, did I go get one and do my own 'experiment'. What you folks call a challenge.

I have a theory that the women folk, unhampered by male ego and attitude, just use what works for them. I know I've learned a great deal by watching my... literally... better half.

The funny part is my wife is right almost 99% of the time, and I am keeping that 1% away from her so I can continue my collection while keeping my sanity.  :facepalm: :D


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #46 on: January 14, 2020, 06:58:47 AM
So much fun reading thru this thread, but in no way, form or shape I am gonna ever let my wife see this thread, especially this good post below...

The funny part is my wife is right almost 99% of the time, and I am keeping that 1% away from her so I can continue my collection while keeping my sanity.  :facepalm: :D

Fine choice sir. 😁
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #47 on: January 14, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
Aloha, look at me, you're so totally right about that. Age means everything in choices we make. I look back on some of the things I did and choices I made as a young man, and I think, "What the hell was I thinking??????"

Choices in guns carried, cars driven, purchases made that should never have been purchased. Overly foolish acts that all begin with "Hold my beer and watch this!" Followed by a trip to the ER.

When I was a young stud full of vinegar, I carried a 5 layer SAK, and a Randall number 14 was my woods walking/camping/backpacking knife of choice. The darn Bowie knife size thing was as heavy as a small pistol. After I grew up it got sold off along with the other Randall's that were over built thick bladed knives with run of the mill edge holding. My backpacking knife went from that Randall 14 to a Victorinox hiker, then my old Wenger SI. To my surprise I survived just fine.

Now, older, and I pray to God wiser, I've went from 5 to 4 to 3 to 2 layer SAK's and get by in my daily life just fine. I even use (gasp) one layer SAK's with great success. I never would have done so in my 20's or even my 30's. In my 40's was what I recall as the start of my changing attitudes on things.  My 50's was a kind awakening, and the first time I remember looking back on my younger days and thinking "What was I thinking?"

When I was a young guy, I remember seeing all these 'old' guys with tiny pen knives. the little two blade jobs that were like 2 1/2 to maybe 3 inches tops closed. I thought why are they carrying those little things? They look useless. I think the definition of young and dumb was me. Now, as a certified old fart, I can see the wisdom of those little pen knives. They worked. Like my dad told me, "It doesn't have to be big, just sharp."

I think it takes some years of bark on the tree to appreciate what the old guys know. It is all about age.

cbl51, you're always a joy to read and an inspiration for younger folks like I am, thank you!  :hatsoff:

I think you got a point, age certainly matter and experience too, and what usage you are doing of your knife is certainly the most important point.

Concerning Saks, I started my victorinox fever with a tinker, great knife. But then I glanced at the super tinker because I could see how much use I could make of a scissor. The super tinker was great, but one day hiking in the woods I was regretting not having a saw! I bought a fieldmaster that served me well. Then I have been offered an explorer. I fell in love with the inline phillips that helped me countless times with my daughter toys and the tiny screwdriver that saw a lot of use on laptops more than on glasses.

During my time of 4 layered saks, I found that 4 layers was just a little too much for my comfort. I was missing the feel of my super tinker that was still seeing pocket time some days. This, plus the fact that my sak collection was turning into an obsession pushed me to buy a pioneer x. This has been my favourite knife by far and eclipsed all my other saks for a long time. But then I went hiking and I missed that saw again. And then my daughter asked me to change a toy battery and that screwdriver on the can opener of the pioneer couldn't handle it (why are they digging those screw so deep!). That's when I start to consider carrying 2 knives: One on a victorinox pocket clip, another in my watch pocket.
I made my explorer modded into a woodsman (+saw), this one lies in my from pocket attached on the pocket clip. In my watch pocket I carry a Stockman. The stockman now fill most "cutting" tasks, the victorinox is there for tools only.

Where I want to go with my story is that I think perhaps the 2-3 layer saks target people that will use them as their sole EDC, for which ergonomy has to be good to use it as a knife. But other people like me use their Sak as a toolbox more than a knife and in this case, size does not really matter as long as it is not uncomfortable to carry.  ;)
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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #48 on: January 14, 2020, 01:58:44 PM
So much fun reading thru this thread, but in no way, form or shape I am gonna ever let my wife see this thread, especially this good post below...

The funny part is my wife is right almost 99% of the time, and I am keeping that 1% away from her so I can continue my collection while keeping my sanity.  :facepalm: :D
A wise decision if you ask me!  :cheers:


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #49 on: January 14, 2020, 03:02:23 PM

Where I want to go with my story is that I think perhaps the 2-3 layer saks target people that will use them as their sole EDC, for which ergonomy has to be good to use it as a knife. But other people like me use their Sak as a toolbox more than a knife and in this case, size does not really matter as long as it is not uncomfortable to carry.  ;)

I would agree with that. A SAK is for me a tiny toolbox, and the blade is only a small portion of it. The other part of course is, that i carry a swisschamp because i can and want to. As soon as you step into this forum, logic decision making when buying and carrying a MT is out the door anyway  :D  :rofl:


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #51 on: January 14, 2020, 08:42:57 PM
I would agree with that. A SAK is for me a tiny toolbox, and the blade is only a small portion of it. The other part of course is, that i carry a swisschamp because i can and want to. As soon as you step into this forum, logic decision making when buying and carrying a MT is out the door anyway  :D  :rofl:

Error. Logic not found. No layer for logic detected. Does not compute...


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Reply #52 on: January 14, 2020, 09:00:33 PM
 :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #53 on: January 14, 2020, 09:19:53 PM
What kind of cyber-thing is that, DT?


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Reply #54 on: January 15, 2020, 02:56:11 AM
cbl51, you're always a joy to read and an inspiration for younger folks like I am, thank you!  :hatsoff:

I think you got a point, age certainly matter and experience too, and what usage you are doing of your knife is certainly the most important point.

Concerning Saks, I started my victorinox fever with a tinker, great knife. But then I glanced at the super tinker because I could see how much use I could make of a scissor. The super tinker was great, but one day hiking in the woods I was regretting not having a saw! I bought a fieldmaster that served me well. Then I have been offered an explorer. I fell in love with the inline phillips that helped me countless times with my daughter toys and the tiny screwdriver that saw a lot of use on laptops more than on glasses.

During my time of 4 layered saks, I found that 4 layers was just a little too much for my comfort. I was missing the feel of my super tinker that was still seeing pocket time some days. This, plus the fact that my sak collection was turning into an obsession pushed me to buy a pioneer x. This has been my favourite knife by far and eclipsed all my other saks for a long time. But then I went hiking and I missed that saw again. And then my daughter asked me to change a toy battery and that screwdriver on the can opener of the pioneer couldn't handle it (why are they digging those screw so deep!). That's when I start to consider carrying 2 knives: One on a victorinox pocket clip, another in my watch pocket.
I made my explorer modded into a woodsman (+saw), this one lies in my from pocket attached on the pocket clip. In my watch pocket I carry a Stockman. The stockman now fill most "cutting" tasks, the victorinox is there for tools only.

Where I want to go with my story is that I think perhaps the 2-3 layer saks target people that will use them as their sole EDC, for which ergonomy has to be good to use it as a knife. But other people like me use their Sak as a toolbox more than a knife and in this case, size does not really matter as long as it is not uncomfortable to carry.  ;)

For me - in my little mind - I want a SAK that I will use for everything that I will use my SAK for - does that make any sense to anyone?

I'm setting myself up for nostalgia in my later years. 

I have the same quandary with the saw as the breakpoint between a smaller and larger SAK.  When I'm out hiking or camping (or paradoxically, at home), I have a 7-8 layer SAK, whereas everywhere else I have a 2-3 layer SAK.  Out in the woods or at home I use the saw quite a lot. 

Back to nostalgia - Using the same SAK for everything in town and in the woods keeps me stuck on the saw as this breakpoint.... gotta have the saw if I'm going to tell my grandkids about that time I rescued a Texas Spiny Lizard, cut up food for years as a college student because I couldn't afford an actual kitchen knife, or when I built a tripod to cook over a campfire with... all using the same SAK.  Alright... fine... I only did two of those things.

The Huntsman is at the sweet spot for me - has everything I need, and nothing I don't - but even then it's a bit bulky, and I just happened to give it away to a friend before I had the chance to get used to it. 

Maybe I'll get another one for myself.  Maybe I won't.  Maybe in a few years I won't need a saw (just as I don't need pliers any more) and maybe I'll want an Explorer for the magnifying lens.  https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,82161.0.html.












With that in mind - the Huntsman has all of my most-used tools, and was on deck 



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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #55 on: January 15, 2020, 06:25:08 AM
Huntsman is the best !!    :o     ;)    :tu: 


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #56 on: January 15, 2020, 08:07:46 AM
Huntsman is the best !!    :o     ;)    :tu:

Except it's not, Mr. Compact :rofl:


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Reply #58 on: January 15, 2020, 10:44:01 AM
OI !!!   :twak:


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Re: Who's buying the 'big' ones?
Reply #59 on: January 15, 2020, 11:18:07 AM
I bought the ‘big’ ones last year to complete my 30-day 30 SAKs challenge, but they’re really just of value to me as part of my collection. I can’t justify carrying them because of their size. SC is my max for pocket carry.

Normally prefer to carry a 3-layer like a Yeoman recreation or my Telluride. Covers most of my needs.  :salute:
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