Thinking of getting into building a new PC system.

AlephZero · **Reply #30 on:** January 30, 2020, 09:43:04 PM

One thing you need to make sure with the motherboard, if you're going for Gen 3 Ryzen, not all B450 MBs are equipped with BIOS that works with them, might need an upgrade.

Chako · **Reply #31 on:** January 31, 2020, 01:45:33 AM

I guess time will tell. I might end up buying a newer supply down the road.

AlephZero, I think the Max board is gen 3 ready BIOS wise.

Chako · **Reply #32 on:** January 31, 2020, 03:57:02 AM

Hmm..after looking into this more, it might appear I may have to buy a newer power supply after all. After doing a few online power calculators, I think something in the 700-750w range will do. Mind you, my current system is 7 years old and still going strong with the same power supply.

Don Pablo · **Reply #33 on:** January 31, 2020, 08:27:36 AM

Quote from: Chako on January 31, 2020, 03:57:02 AM

Hmm..after looking into this more, it might appear I may have to buy a newer power supply after all. After doing a few online power calculators, I think something in the 700-750w range will do. Mind you, my current system is 7 years old and still going strong with the same power supply.

Is that the estimated load or the estimated power supply size?

Whoey · **Reply #34 on:** January 31, 2020, 08:49:47 AM

Based on the specs you posted it seems like a 80+ supply, but as others have mentioned it may be getting old too.

Unless you are on a tight budget or struggling to find a PSU that fits your needs/wants (I'd be looking for efficient and quiet) it makes sense to build the whole system. Also that as mentioned gives you an idea of the reliability of all the components rather than face having to replace something again in a few years because you didn't do it during the initial build.

All components have changed over the years, so mind as well have a level playing field to start.

Don Pablo · **Reply #35 on:** January 31, 2020, 09:14:25 AM

Quote from: Whoey on January 31, 2020, 08:49:47 AM

All components have changed over the years, so mind as well have a level playing field to start.

Oh, you just reminded me... The modular-style PSU design seems to have gotten more common in the last 10 years or so. Might be just me going crazy?

Chako · **Reply #36 on:** January 31, 2020, 12:18:49 PM

The first one I mentioned is modular. A lot nicer and easier to work with.

AlephZero · **Reply #37 on:** January 31, 2020, 05:16:23 PM

I just got this one for my own system: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12821/the-bitfenix-formula-gold-650w-psu-review

They have different versions including 750W, but the 650W is well enough for me

non-modular, but I have nice little space in my case to hide the extra cables

Chako · **Reply #38 on:** February 01, 2020, 03:00:07 AM

Just got the case in today, and I ordered the Ryzen 3600X CPU 20 minutes ago. Looking at Amazon, both the motherboard and the CPU should be coming in at around the same time...even though the motherboard was on back-order.

The list of what I need is slowly going down. Going to wait for my next pay period to advance the list. Thus far this is my need to get list:

1. All in one water cooler.
2. A power supply
3. Memory
4. m.2 SSD drive.

Looks like I have the most expensive gear out of the way now. Still researching memory, power supplies now, and m.2 drives. Thinking i might get the Deepcool Castle 360mm V2 model. It has RGB on it.

Chako · **Reply #39 on:** February 01, 2020, 04:29:04 AM

Just opened up the Thermaltake P3 case...I am happy to state the tempered glass panel is intact. Whew. I was a bit worried about that. The red is very nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu5o-8tiPZI

Now this is feeling like a computer is slowly getting assembled.

Don Pablo · **Reply #40 on:** February 01, 2020, 10:24:11 AM

Either 16GB, or 32GB, of DDR4 3000MHz should be perfect to take full advantage of your shiny Ryzen.
Luckily for you, the price of RAM went way down last year due to decreased demand.

Chako · **Reply #41 on:** February 01, 2020, 11:25:04 AM

Chako · **Reply #42 on:** February 04, 2020, 05:00:10 PM

I am told both the CPU and motherboard will arrive today.

Still looking into SSD drives, memory, mechanical drives, power supplies, etc...

Chako · **Reply #43 on:** February 07, 2020, 12:42:33 AM

I just ordered off of Amazon an XPG DDR4 D60G RGB 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz kit. That should handle the system memory. I am still looking into power supplies. I have noted that the local Staples has the Samsung 2.5" 500gb SSDs for 90 dollars. I am a bit tempted...but not sure if I should hold out for a M.2 SSD drive.

Poncho65 · **Reply #44 on:** February 07, 2020, 06:00:36 PM

My sytem is to old for M.2 or else I would have went that route

I would wait if it were me

You want the snappiest system you can get for now and it will last for much longer that way

Chako · **Reply #45 on:** February 08, 2020, 04:29:01 AM

I hear you. I think I will go the M.2 route, and possibly get a SATA SSD drive as well, along with a larger HD for my main storage needs. That is the goal anyhow.

I just pulled the trigger on a Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 750W Smart 80 Plus Gold power supply. I want this build to go all light fantastic, and the 10 year warranty and all Japanese caps attracted me to the power supply. Oddly enough, after using several calculators to figure out my overall wattage and adding an extra 100w, the 650W would have sufficed...but was oddly 10 dollars more than the 750W supply.

So far, what I think I still need are:

1. A CPU cooler....still thinking on a DeepCool Castle 360 V2 model for the RGB bling.
2. An assortment of HD/SSD/M.2 units. More specifically a 1Tb M.2 drive, a 500Gb SATA SSD 2.5" drive, and a 4Tb HD for main storage. I understand I can use StoreMI which partners a HD with the M.2 NVME drive for speedier access. Not sure how good that works.
3. Possibly another Win 10 OS if I can't transfer my current copy over from my current rig.

Poncho65 · **Reply #46 on:** February 08, 2020, 05:22:06 AM

You can find how to get the Windows 10 activation code with just a bit of Google Fu and maybe download an app to get the number

use a clean install and activate it with the number and you should be good to go

Chako · **Reply #47 on:** February 08, 2020, 05:59:50 AM

Whoey · **Reply #48 on:** February 08, 2020, 09:16:18 AM

I had an unused Win7 key that worked...

Don Pablo · **Reply #49 on:** February 08, 2020, 10:16:58 AM

Very nice PSU.

Chako · **Reply #50 on:** February 09, 2020, 06:48:41 PM

Thanks. Amazon tells me both the memory and the power supply should be arriving next Wednesday.

Still doing some reading on other parts I will be needing. Lucky for me, my next pay period started next Wednesday as well.

From my research, the DeepCool Castle 360 RGB V2 looks to be real good. I was originally not too keen on DeepCool because I read about how their all in one coolers often failed . I now know after much digging in that it was their Captain model, and more specifically, their water block design that failed, dousing the insides with coolant. They have since enabled their never leak water bladder design, and I have not read of any failures lately with their latest ventures. So the Castle 360 RGB version looks like the model I will be getting.

Definitely aiming for an M.2 NVME drive in the 500gb or 1tb range, a secondary SSD in the same range, and a larger HD for the mass storage needs.

When I first partook this build, I was thinking of using parts I already had. Now I am thinking i can move my current computer upstairs as a secondary spare computer. Still thinking of what to do with my two older systems that date back 10 years.

I forgot to state...I was at a local computer store and saw this dual HD thing that allows you to access 2 HDs or 2 SSDs outside of the computer...and hot swappable at that. I think I may buy one to try it out. Here is a review of the unit I saw...

https://www.hardwaresecrets.com/thermaltake-blacx-duet-hdd-docking-station-review/

I can see myself buying a few cheaper SSDs down the road, and using this should make it super easy to do so. Any cons?

Chako · **Reply #51 on:** February 09, 2020, 08:52:58 PM

Just got a good deal for a 4 Tb seagate drive. Now waiting for Wednesday to pick up some other stuff.

Chako · **Reply #52 on:** February 11, 2020, 12:02:30 AM

I was a bit surprised that the HD came with no mounting screws.

Just arrived...the power supply and memory.

Because I bought these Adata XPG memory modules...I am thinking of buying an XPG m.2 nvme 1tb drive.

Poncho65 · **Reply #53 on:** February 11, 2020, 06:07:57 PM

What kind of budget have you set for yourself on this?

Or have you

Don Pablo · **Reply #54 on:** February 11, 2020, 06:17:48 PM

Quote from: Poncho65 on February 11, 2020, 06:07:57 PM

What kind of budget have you set for yourself on this? Or have you

If only I had his PC budget.

I would be very happy.

Poncho65 · **Reply #55 on:** February 11, 2020, 06:54:29 PM

Chako · **Reply #56 on:** February 11, 2020, 10:38:35 PM

My budget is a few hundred every pay period. So far, it has worked out nicely.

Chako · **Reply #57 on:** February 12, 2020, 07:14:04 AM

Just pulled the trigger on the DeepCool AIO 360 RGB V.2 CPU cooler, an XPG RGB m.2 nvme S40G 500gb drive, and a cheap Bluetooth wireless keyboard...just in case I can't reach the computer with a corded keyboard. With that said and done, all I need now is a 2.5" SSD drive which I plan to buy locally. I have noticed no discounts buying one online.

Poncho65 · **Reply #58 on:** February 12, 2020, 05:34:15 PM

Quote from: Chako on February 11, 2020, 10:38:35 PM

My budget is a few hundred every pay period. So far, it has worked out nicely.

That is a great way to do it

Chako · **Reply #59 on:** February 13, 2020, 01:09:11 AM

It is. Just got a Samsung 500Gb SATA SSD today. I think that is the last piece of the puzzle.

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