UK Legal Carry Thread!

[Gareth]

Just added these;

Citadel Buddy - http://knives-citadel.com/displayKnife.php?id=65
SOG Micron - http://sogknives.com/store/micron.html

Thanks Neil.    Will ad that too.

I just found that the link for the CRKT Edgie was old.  Here's the new one.  

http://www.crkt.com/Edgie-Self-Sharpening-Knife-Razor-Sharp-Edge

I got slightly interested when I saw that CRKT have done an Edgie2.  

http://www.crkt.com/Edgie2
BUT it's too long, it's a locker and it's ugly.

[Benner]

Ta Gareth. 

[Magnus]

does anyone here know if the Kershaw ET is UK legal?  it looks as though it doesn't lock open.

[Gareth]

I think that by dint of the fact you don't just fold the blade away (you press on the toggle again I think) it would never pass muster.  I know that I'd never expect a PC to take my word for it that it might be legal anyway.

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

I think you'd get done just for the look of it

Plus there all possessed

[DaveK]

I'd say the ET does lock - albeit an unusual locking mechanism. Plus, I think it would be a police magnet if you produced it in public

The SOG Toolclip should be added to the list though

[barrytool]

Just bought the True Utility Skeleton Knife Pro < link removed >

I know it fits in legally with blade length but the idea of the lock seems a little hazy with regards to the mechanism they use?

Can anyone help? Don't want to carry it around if it doesn't tie in with the law really.

[John]

Looks like a frame lock and illegal to carry without good reason mate  




[edit]safe to say if it locks it's illegal carry regardless of lock mechanism used


[edit] Also in a court of law a lock knife is regarded as a fixed blade,hope that helps a little 

[barrytool]

Yee that's what I thought, shame as it's so nice will have to use it for small jobs in the house.

thanks for the reply.

[jzmtl]

Spyderco UKPK is no longer legal it seems.

http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44287

Hi guys just wanted to say hi and to moan.

I like the rest of you have been waiting ages for the new ukpk lightweight. I ordered mine last week its now been seized by UK customs as a gravity knife. I've sent a letter off today I'm hoping to have it within a few weeks fingers crossed. But just my luck I've been waiting for this knife for ages and now I have to wait some more.

ok the uuk boarder agency are not going to restore my knife to me they are going to distroy it on the grounds that its a gravity knife...

I have head the back springs are weak but are they that weak that the blades can be flicked out... I'm not the only one some one else has had a ukpk frn seized by customs.

considering this knife is designed with is brits in mind I think the spyder crew should look in to it

[Gareth]

They've tried that before.  It needs pointed out to them that even their "creative" definition of what a gravity knife is requires that the knife locks open.  

From the The Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act (1959) http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Primary&PageNumber=70&NavFrom=2&parentActiveTextDocId=1127412&ActiveTextDocId=1127412&filesize=10041


(b)
any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever, or other device, sometimes known as a “gravity knife”,


I believe this has been successfully argued with UK customs before.

[DaveK]

I agree Gareth - I think he'll get his knife back eventually, I certainly hope so anyway.

Spyderco UKPK is no longer legal it seems.

HM Customs don't make the law, they simply apply it. And not very well at times it seems 

It does sound as though the new FRN UKPKs are a bit sloppy though from some of those comments. It's nigh on impossible to open my G10 UKPK using "the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force". The backspring is SAK-like.

[nuphoria]

Grrrr 

Ruddy knife fascists. Well, I guess I'll be able to tell you if the one I ordered makes it in to my hands soon enough 

I've had something seized before and this time I doubt I'd be letting it go without a fight.

[Essexman]

 We're assuming that they test every knife that passes through. I would be easy to just see a sperderco hole and reject it as all the other like that fail.

It's bad enough that it's been incorrectly seized, but it's the hard work involved in getting it sorted out that would drive me mad.

[John]

I would love to see them flick this out it would send Mr Vickery into a sweating frenzy and he would fail 

Maybe the UKPK needs a back spring like the DOUK DOUK 

[AddictedToTools]

Is the Swisscard UK legal? Because technically it's a sheath knife, but it seems so small and innocent... 

[Neil]

To the letter of the law, no.  Its classed as a fixed blade.  In the real world I'm not aware of anyone ever having received even the slightest bit of grief for having one though

[jzmtl]

HM Customs don't make the law, they simply apply it. And not very well at times it seems 

Ah but it doesn't matter what's written in the law, only how it's interpreted.

I'm sure whoever wrote the fixed bladed law didn't anticipate how one retard judge and scumbag lawyer can turn it into something completely different. And the guy wrote gravity knife law here didn't expect it to be applied to regular folder with loose pivot.

[DaveK]

Oh for sure

Just reminded me actually - these lightweight UKPKs are now in stock in the UK of people want them without running the gauntlet!

http://www.handyniknaks.co.uk/spyderco-knives-uk-penknife-frn-drop-point-c94frn3-grey-3245-p.asp

That's about half the price of the regular UKPK

[cerbera147]

My Lightweight UKPK arrived this morning with usual lightning quick speed from Heinnies 

More here http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,21823.0.html

[AHB]

Looks good Dan.. 

[Essexman]

Three UK EDC's I've been using ...





Top UKPK carbon fibre (not a spyderco made, rescaled)
Middle a SRM little slipjoint,
Bottom a spyderco bug

[John]

Nice Mark    that SRM looks particularly NICE!    

[Neil]

That's a very professional looking set of CF scales there.

[Essexman]

Nice Mark    that SRM looks particularly NICE!    

What this one


Cheap as chips too!  If you want me to keep an eye out for one, drop me a PM,  I know a man that imports them over at BB.

That's a very professional looking set of CF scales there.

They were machined on a CNC minimill in the US by a CPF member, but he appears to have stopped making them now. Mine were the first he made.

[John]

Nice Mark    that SRM looks particularly NICE!    

What this one
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Cheap as chips too!  If you want me to keep an eye out for one, drop me a PM,  I know a man that imports them over at BB.

Yes the one  I have to have it 

[John]

@Mark I want it,I WANT IT and I WILL GET IT     

[John]

@Mark Cheap as chips too?  

ok I'll bid a bag of chips    
  or I'll tell everyone you a potato man   

[Benner]

Silly price, but I quite like this http://heinnie.com/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=5768

[Mike, Lord of the Spammers!]

Silly price, but I quite like this http://heinnie.com/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=5768

Bit nice that one