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UK Legal Carry Thread!

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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #90 on: December 30, 2008, 11:53:39 PM
You'd be safe with that then.  :)

Still not going on the list though.  :P

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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #91 on: December 31, 2008, 12:22:09 AM
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #92 on: December 31, 2008, 12:30:09 AM
We've certainly made a great start.  :)
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #93 on: December 31, 2008, 03:29:00 AM
PST should be on there - it ain't a locker!

So should be the PST II, Sideclip, Micra and Flair!

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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #94 on: December 31, 2008, 08:44:30 AM
PST should be on there - it ain't a locker!

So should be the PST II, Sideclip, Micra and Flair!


I agree there non locking, it's just you can't close the blade without hiting the other handle, so technically there not 100% legal, I know it's stupid but then so is the law ::)
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #95 on: December 31, 2008, 09:11:36 AM
Leatherman call it the Posi-Stop feature .They obviously can't call it a locking device because it isn't . I personally would EDC one myself as a non locker BUT technically the blade doesn't close all the way so it could be classed as a locking blade  >:( This discussion about the PST has been going on for years  :( and just goes round and round .

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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #96 on: December 31, 2008, 02:48:16 PM
How about this? The Moki Thuja UK http://www.heinnie.com/hy3ie71011594/Knives/Moki/Moki-Thuja-UK/p-92-175-1541/

I don't have one but it had a good reception over on BB.  It is a shame it still looks like a locker but I suspect the reason they didn't re-model the scales was to keep tooling costs down.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #97 on: December 31, 2008, 02:58:45 PM
Yes, shame they didn't put new scales on it but non the less at least they thought about us poor Brits  :tu:
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #98 on: December 31, 2008, 04:31:06 PM
PST should be on there - it ain't a locker!

So should be the PST II, Sideclip, Micra and Flair!


I agree there non locking, it's just you can't close the blade without hiting the other handle, so technically there not 100% legal, I know it's stupid but then so is the law ::)

We are trying to list stuff that is 100% legal EDC.  I know that is being real picky, but it could be used against you if you were really unlucky.

I can't say it would stop me though.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #99 on: December 31, 2008, 04:31:55 PM
How about this? The Moki Thuja UK http://www.heinnie.com/hy3ie71011594/Knives/Moki/Moki-Thuja-UK/p-92-175-1541/

I don't have one but it had a good reception over on BB.  It is a shame it still looks like a locker but I suspect the reason they didn't re-model the scales was to keep tooling costs down.

It is indeed.  :tu:

I'll add it to the list.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #100 on: December 31, 2008, 04:48:51 PM
How about the Spyderco T-Mag? It's just under 3 inches, and uses a magnet rather than a lock (I think). http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=244


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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #101 on: December 31, 2008, 04:50:32 PM
How about the Spyderco T-Mag? It's just under 3 inches, and uses a magnet rather than a lock (I think). http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=244

It does indeed.  :)

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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #102 on: December 31, 2008, 04:53:34 PM
Leatherman call it the Posi-Stop feature .They obviously can't call it a locking device because it isn't . I personally would EDC one myself as a non locker BUT technically the blade doesn't close all the way so it could be classed as a locking blade  >:( This discussion about the PST has been going on for years  :( and just goes round and round .

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Exactly, so innocent until proven guilty, it should be in! By the same definition, a SAK blade is locking, 'cos your finger would be in the way ;)
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #103 on: December 31, 2008, 04:58:36 PM
Leatherman call it the Posi-Stop feature .They obviously can't call it a locking device because it isn't . I personally would EDC one myself as a non locker BUT technically the blade doesn't close all the way so it could be classed as a locking blade  >:( This discussion about the PST has been going on for years  :( and just goes round and round .

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Exactly, so innocent until proven guilty, it should be in! By the same definition, a SAK blade is locking, 'cos your finger would be in the way ;)


LOL!  :D  That's a bit weak isn't it.  :D

We discussed this earlier and decided that it should only be stuff we are 100% certain on, so sadly the PST and similar are out.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #104 on: December 31, 2008, 05:01:30 PM
Well, until someone comes up with something to conclusively prove that it's illegal, I'll consider it be legal, as is widely accepted!



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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #105 on: December 31, 2008, 05:03:03 PM
Well, until someone comes up with something to conclusively prove that it's illegal, I'll consider it be legal, as is widely accepted!





You do that then.  :)

It's not going on the list though.  ;)
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #106 on: December 31, 2008, 05:03:37 PM
I dub this thread, stickiefied :salute:
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #107 on: December 31, 2008, 05:06:16 PM
Well, until someone comes up with something to conclusively prove that it's illegal, I'll consider it be legal, as is widely accepted!




You go for it mate, and I'm sure you'd be fine, but for the benefit of this thread it has to be 100% legal and not open to intepretation :)
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #108 on: December 31, 2008, 06:55:07 PM
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #109 on: January 01, 2009, 01:48:41 AM
What about plier based MTs?  The LM Juice range are OK but what about others?  I'm always slightly concerned about tools like the Mini or the PT-510 as whilst there is no lock on the blade once the blade is out and the tool closed back up the blade can't be folded back into the handle, how would this be viewed?  :think:

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Because of this closing the legality of the Micra & PST still worries me. It's a bit of a scaremonger frenzy here at the mo  >:(
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #110 on: January 01, 2009, 05:42:43 PM
What about plier based MTs?  The LM Juice range are OK but what about others?  I'm always slightly concerned about tools like the Mini or the PT-510 as whilst there is no lock on the blade once the blade is out and the tool closed back up the blade can't be folded back into the handle, how would this be viewed?  :think:

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Because of this closing the legality of the Micra & PST still worries me. It's a bit of a scaremonger frenzy here at the mo  >:(

As picky as some coppers might be, I can't see anyone in their right mind causing you hassel because of a Micra.

Although I want this thread to remain a listing of stuff that is regarded as being 100% legal, I think people do need to keep a little perspective on the whole legality issue.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #111 on: January 02, 2009, 09:52:45 PM
just found this link on google after doing a search on multitools.it looks like it is a police forum.
it clears up a couple of points i think
http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26098


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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #112 on: January 02, 2009, 10:04:28 PM
just found this link on google after doing a search on multitools.it looks like it is a police forum.
it clears up a couple of points i think
http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26098


Thanks for posting the link , great find and some interesting comments on there . I remember this incident as it happened some 20 miles from me . The guy was a bit stupid for carrying a locking folder into a court of law but he should have been given a b*llocking and sent on his way  ::)   Mountain out of a mole hill and absolutely no need for it .

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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #113 on: January 02, 2009, 10:07:09 PM
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #114 on: January 02, 2009, 10:09:49 PM
Latshaw Pocketwrench II http://thequinlans.org/knives/bob/tool/pocketwrench_ii.html


I could do with one of them , are they cheap ?

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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #115 on: January 02, 2009, 10:12:11 PM
Latshaw Pocketwrench II http://thequinlans.org/knives/bob/tool/pocketwrench_ii.html


I could do with one of them , are they cheap ?

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I believe price isn't the problem, it's the availability over here in the UK.

I was lucky enough to get mine from Mikko, but Neil had to get one sent over from a member in the US as he couldn't find any here.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #116 on: January 02, 2009, 10:13:32 PM
just found this link on google after doing a search on multitools.it looks like it is a police forum.
it clears up a couple of points i think
http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26098


Good find Phil!

I'm not sure it's that conclusive (although I'm still reading through it).

I liked this one:

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It has been held that going to a party where you may have to open bottles of beer is a good reason for possession of a locking bladed multi tool which also had a bottle opener attachment.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #117 on: January 02, 2009, 10:14:10 PM
Case make some nice slip jointed folders http://www.wrcase.com/knives/

They must have no locks and have a blade length under 3" to be legal EDC.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #118 on: January 02, 2009, 10:17:01 PM
Case make some nice slip jointed folders http://www.wrcase.com/knives/

They must have no locks and have a blade length under 3" to be legal EDC.

...Unless you have a reason to carry it. According to that discussion that Phil found, going to a party to open beer is a good reason! Sorted.
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Re: UK Legal Carry Thread!
Reply #119 on: January 02, 2009, 10:22:24 PM
Case make some nice slip jointed folders http://www.wrcase.com/knives/

They must have no locks and have a blade length under 3" to be legal EDC.

...Unless you have a reason to carry it. According to that discussion that Phil found, going to a party to open beer is a good reason! Sorted.


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