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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #30 on: July 13, 2020, 06:32:48 AM
I'd be interested in your thoughts!

I haven't given it quite as thorough a workout as I might like, but here are some thoughts after carrying it some and playing around with it for about ten days:

Likes
  • Blade is very sharp right out of the box.  The factory edge passed the cigar trimming test.
  • Thanks to the titanium liners & bolsters, the knife is considerably lighter than someone (who is more used to knives with liners & bolsters of brass, nickel silver, or stainless steel) might expect.
  • The shape of this blade approaches the ideal clip blade IMO. The tip is acute without being weak.  The clipped portion of the blade is neither too long, nor too short, nor too deep, nor too shallow.  The top of the clip is not over-exaggerated.  The swedge is a nice touch.
  • The blade can easily be opened by pinching it.  This is nice to have on a knife that isn't OHO, and in my experience can really save one's fingernails if using the knife very frequently.
  • Overall fit & finish are good.
  • While not a big deal to me personally (I'm a righty anyway), I note that matching nail nicks on both sides of the blade make it fully ambidextrous.


Dislikes
  • The blade has a half stop.  I agree a half stop has value on some tools (e.g. SAK screwdrivers), but I really hate seeing them on knife blades.  I understand some makers think half stops are a safety feature, the idea being that a half stop makes closing the knife on one's fingers less likely.  My position is that, if someone has the knowledge and sense to use a slipjoint safely, having a half stop doesn't make them any safer; if someone does not have the knowledge and or sense to use a slipjoint safely, having a half stop is unlikely to save them from injuring themselves anyway.  It just basically adds another two steps each time you use the knife.  Did I mention I hate half stops on knife blades... :rant:
  • I'm generally a big fan of G-10 scales, as I consider G-10 to be one of the toughest scale materials available (with the exception of all-metal scales).  YMMV, but I consider the texturing of these G-10 scales to be more aggressive than desirable, and I might have gone with a different handle material if I had to choose over again.  How did you like the carbon fiber scales?
  • While it isn't a deal-breaker for me, as I rarely attach lanyards to my knives, the lack of a lanyard hole, bail, hollow screw, etc. could be a negative for some.


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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #31 on: July 13, 2020, 01:09:53 PM
I haven't given it quite as thorough a workout as I might like, but here are some thoughts after carrying it some and playing around with it for about ten days:

Likes
  • Blade is very sharp right out of the box.  The factory edge passed the cigar trimming test.
  • Thanks to the titanium liners & bolsters, the knife is considerably lighter than someone (who is more used to knives with liners & bolsters of brass, nickel silver, or stainless steel) might expect.
  • The shape of this blade approaches the ideal clip blade IMO. The tip is acute without being weak.  The clipped portion of the blade is neither too long, nor too short, nor too deep, nor too shallow.  The top of the clip is not over-exaggerated.  The swedge is a nice touch.
  • The blade can easily be opened by pinching it.  This is nice to have on a knife that isn't OHO, and in my experience can really save one's fingernails if using the knife very frequently.
  • Overall fit & finish are good.
  • While not a big deal to me personally (I'm a righty anyway), I note that matching nail nicks on both sides of the blade make it fully ambidextrous.


Dislikes
  • The blade has a half stop.  I agree a half stop has value on some tools (e.g. SAK screwdrivers), but I really hate seeing them on knife blades.  I understand some makers think half stops are a safety feature, the idea being that a half stop makes closing the knife on one's fingers less likely.  My position is that, if someone has the knowledge and sense to use a slipjoint safely, having a half stop doesn't make them any safer; if someone does not have the knowledge and or sense to use a slipjoint safely, having a half stop is unlikely to save them from injuring themselves anyway.  It just basically adds another two steps each time you use the knife.  Did I mention I hate half stops on knife blades... :rant:
  • I'm generally a big fan of G-10 scales, as I consider G-10 to be one of the toughest scale materials available (with the exception of all-metal scales).  YMMV, but I consider the texturing of these G-10 scales to be more aggressive than desirable, and I might have gone with a different handle material if I had to choose over again.  How did you like the carbon fiber scales?
  • While it isn't a deal-breaker for me, as I rarely attach lanyards to my knives, the lack of a lanyard hole, bail, hollow screw, etc. could be a negative for some.

I really like a half stop myself, I love the feel of the engineering that goes into making it work if that makes sense? My CF scales were really great. smooth but still grippy when wet. I've heard that some people got really rough CF however.

How is the blade thickness, specifically behind the edge? Mine from the first batch was so bad that the knife was a really bad cutter. They were supposed to have improved since then however.
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #32 on: July 13, 2020, 01:10:58 PM


Carrying this one today. It helped me out of a problem yesterday, a task where the SAK steel gave up very fast but the CPM154 kept on going right till the end and was still shaving sharp.
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #33 on: July 14, 2020, 06:34:36 PM
I really like a half stop myself, I love the feel of the engineering that goes into making it work if that makes sense?

I also like half stops but I don´t think there´s much engineering involved. On a half stop blade the end of the tang is square, else it is rounded. That´s all.


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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #34 on: July 16, 2020, 05:33:57 AM
How is the blade thickness, specifically behind the edge? Mine from the first batch was so bad that the knife was a really bad cutter. They were supposed to have improved since then however.

Doesn't seem to be an issue, though to be fair:
  • I don't have one from the first batch to compare it to.
  • I haven't used the knife to cut through anything taller than the blade yet.


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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #35 on: July 16, 2020, 05:35:29 AM
Case Tiny Toothpick in 154CM...
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #36 on: July 16, 2020, 11:23:17 AM
Case Tiny Toothpick in 154CM...

Wow, what a great knife, concept and execution!
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #37 on: July 16, 2020, 03:58:42 PM
 :iagree:  :drool:

Thats pretty wonderful.  I've got a CRKT Toothpick that I do really like.  A Case in 154  :ahhh
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #38 on: July 17, 2020, 06:12:07 AM
:iagree:  :drool:

Thats pretty wonderful.  I've got a CRKT Toothpick that I do really like.  A Case in 154  :ahhh.

Yup, I have a really nice Kissing Crane toothpick with some nice stag but it's 440A and I rarely carry it. The idea of one with 154...

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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #39 on: July 18, 2020, 06:23:52 AM
A.G. Russell Toothpick in ATS-34, with an interesting sort of hybrid linerlock/framelock...

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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #40 on: July 18, 2020, 06:42:48 AM
A.G. Russell lockback in ATS-34...
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #41 on: July 19, 2020, 01:09:33 AM
A couple of sweet ones there Nate  !    How about a pic showing how the lock engages the blade   :pok:


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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #42 on: August 02, 2020, 01:13:47 AM
A couple of sweet ones there Nate  !    How about a pic showing how the lock engages the blade   :pok:

Looks like someone almost simultaneously posted a pic of this type of lock in the A.G. Russell Knives thread!   :D


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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #43 on: August 02, 2020, 01:18:07 AM
Queen Trapper in ATS-34...

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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #44 on: August 02, 2020, 02:37:57 AM
Verah nice!     :tu:     :like:
What? Enablers! Are you serrrrious? Where? I dont see any.
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #45 on: August 18, 2020, 04:47:24 AM
Case Cattaraugus Cutlery Gunstock in ATS-34...

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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #46 on: August 18, 2020, 04:49:49 AM
A.G. Russell Arkansas Toothpick in ATS-34 (wood handle & bolster lock)...
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #47 on: August 18, 2020, 04:50:30 AM
A.G. Russell Arkansas Toothpick in ATS-34 (wood handle & bolster lock), continued...
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #48 on: August 18, 2020, 03:31:24 PM
That Gunstock has some great blades.  Really liking how Case did a swedge on both.
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #49 on: December 28, 2020, 09:17:30 PM
Case Trapper in ATS-34.  I'm loving the clip blade on this one; the shape; the long pull, the swedge...

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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #50 on: December 29, 2020, 01:11:48 AM
Albers Cutco

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Reply #51 on: December 29, 2020, 07:28:34 AM
Albers Cutco

CPM154

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That’s a beauty, Steve!

I have to admit, I wasn’t familiar with Albers Cutlery, but having looked it up, I definitely want one now.  Prices seem very reasonable too.  It seems the real trick is finding any in stock.


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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #52 on: December 29, 2020, 01:54:54 PM
Thanks Nate  :cheers:


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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #53 on: February 23, 2021, 06:27:59 AM
I'm stoked to have finally snagged one of these!  Tuna Valley Swell Center Moose in 154CM and India Stag...

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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #54 on: February 23, 2021, 06:28:32 AM
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #55 on: February 23, 2021, 02:09:11 PM
Nice Moose Nate !   :cheers:


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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #56 on: March 03, 2021, 08:25:59 PM
I'm stoked to have finally snagged one of these!  Tuna Valley Swell Center Moose in 154CM and India Stag...

Missed this ^^.    :drool:  congrats.  This is a superb looking knife. 
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #57 on: March 03, 2021, 09:54:05 PM
Thanks guys!   :cheers:

IMO, this is the way a Moose should ideally be, with one clip and one spear blade.  More useful than Case (and others), who seem to think the second blade should be a spey blade.

I also don't understand how anyone who has actually carried a knife loose in his/her pocket can't appreciate the value of rounded over square bolsters.
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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #58 on: March 16, 2021, 01:26:16 AM
Case Backpocket in 154CM...

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Re: Traditional Knives, Premium Steels
Reply #59 on: March 16, 2021, 02:13:32 AM
Nice one Nate !   :like:


 

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