Centered blade?

[VIXADDICT]

Just wondering...

Ever asked yourself why the main tool of the SAKs (the blade) is always the last tool of the knife? I would love to have the main blade in the center later of a 3 or 5 layers sak... Will make it more like a knife and less like a multitool.

I there any technical reason for this choice?

Example on a PX:

[ReamerPunch]

The awl has to be on the outer layer. It goes in the space the blade leaves, so the blade gets put in the outer layer with it.

[VIXADDICT]

Thanks ReamerPunch! 

And there's no way the awl would be displaced as well? It need to be lying on the scale?

[Crow]

Isn't pioneer solo blade itself centered? Meaning it is straight. Could you put that blade in instead, with its backspring? You would lose awl tough.

[Don Pablo]

Isn't pioneer solo blade itself centered? Meaning it is straight. Could you put that blade in instead, with its backspring? You would lose awl tough.

Some of the old ones are, the newer ones aren't. Victorinox seems to think that using the non centered blade is perfectly fine.

[Crow]

Isn't pioneer solo blade itself centered? Meaning it is straight. Could you put that blade in instead, with its backspring? You would lose awl tough.

Some of the old ones are, the newer ones aren't. Victorinox seems to think that using the non centered blade is perfectly fine.

That i did not know. Thank you.

Still using solo as donor, backspring could be used to make this centered mod.

[this_is_nascar]

Isn't pioneer solo blade itself centered? Meaning it is straight. Could you put that blade in instead, with its backspring? You would lose awl tough.

Nope, not on mine and it sucks too.


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[Syph007]

Isn't pioneer solo blade itself centered? Meaning it is straight. Could you put that blade in instead, with its backspring? You would lose awl tough.

Some of the old ones are, the newer ones aren't. Victorinox seems to think that using the non centered blade is perfectly fine.

That i did not know. Thank you.

Still using solo as donor, backspring could be used to make this centered mod.

The blade bends easy.  If you want a straight blade you have to put it in a padded vice and tap with a mallet.

[pomsbz]

Fully agree, I don't like off centre or crinked blades.

[VIXADDICT]

I was talking about having the blade in the center layer, not to have a straight blade  All SAKs have crinked blades 

[magentus]

The awl covers nearly a(w)ll of the 3mm thick scale, so unless you use 3mm of spacers whatever layer is next to the awl will be obscured I think.

[Ron Who]

I was talking about having the blade in the center layer, not to have a straight blade  All SAKs have crinked blades 

My Solo doesn´t. My father´s Solo doesn´t.  These are about 15 years old, I don´t know exactly when Vic changed the manufacturing process.

Top knife in the pic is my Solo. No crinking, nicely centered.

In the middle a Pruner, showing why crinking is neccesary.

The bottom knife in the pic is my Carver. The third layer has a second large blade, which is at the bottom in the pic. This is a crinked blade. The top side of the blade is perfectly flat, the bottom side is slanted. No way bending the blade will yield one that is both straight and centered. At least, that´s what I think. Maybe someone will prove me wrong.

[pomsbz]

The crinking on the Pruner is barely noticeable. On the 3 layers it's enough that you're not going to be cutting in a straight line and have to be somewhat careful sharpening.

[Andetto]

My Solo doesn´t. My father´s Solo doesn´t.  These are about 15 years old, I don´t know exactly when Vic changed the manufacturing process.

Top knife in the pic is my Solo. No crinking, nicely centered.

In the middle a Pruner, showing why crinking is neccesary.

The bottom knife in the pic is my Carver. The third layer has a second large blade, which is at the bottom in the pic. This is a crinked blade. The top side of the blade is perfectly flat, the bottom side is slanted. No way bending the blade will yield one that is both straight and centered. At least, that´s what I think. Maybe someone will prove me wrong.

Agree. One side of the blade is parellel to the scales, the other is at an angle.

[Andetto]

Product Standardization.

I believe placing the knife on the 'first layer' has to do with the assembly process. Furthermore the presenting of the product .To have the same function in the same place regardless of how many layers or tools are there.

The openers' layer also doesnt change position.

I have already asked,

Why dont Victorinox center the knife and follow that standard?

Did they make a knife with tools attatched? Or made a multi tool set? As far as am aware SAK is a given name.

Did Vic plan for having more than two layers from the beginning?

What about models with 4, 6, 8 layers? It will get complicated.

Please forgive my ignorance.

More:
All multitools I've seen have the knife on the first/last layer.

[Mechanickal]

Having it on the outer layer means you can cut something almost flat with the surface. (Filet anyone? )

Imagine a Swisschamp with a blade in the center layer; no way you'll be able to cut near a surface. A right handed person will always be able to cut like this, away from the body with a blade on that same outer layer.

[Mechanickal]

*Double post*

[ElevenBlade]

My take on the question is also in a more global view - not just Alox. 

The opener layer is always on the edge - that's necessary in order to use the can opener.

I agree with Mechanickal, On a wider SAK it's somewhat advantageous to have the blade on the edge.

On most 91mm blade layers, where there's a small and a large one... It may be difficult to extract the small blade if it isn't on the outer layer. 

So maybe it's just convention across the board, based on the 91mm lineup where it makes functional sense.

[Mechanickal]

I agree with Mechanickal

Let's make a sticky out of that part...
Just that part. Thank you!

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