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Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities

us Offline kamakiri

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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #60 on: August 19, 2020, 07:40:40 AM
Smurf it. Got one more:

58mm Plus Scales

Essentially, add the T&T over the pen module. Injection moulding it would be a bit tricky, but I think they could ride over the rivets and mounting bushings.

A Minichamp Plus would be getting a little fat...but I don’t think most would mind it.

EDIT:
even the existing 91mm tools would fit this way. And the regular or short/electronic scale tweezers would work like this:

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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #61 on: August 19, 2020, 01:21:17 PM
Smurf it. Got one more:

58mm Plus Scales

Essentially, add the T&T over the pen module. Injection moulding it would be a bit tricky, but I think they could ride over the rivets and mounting bushings.

A Minichamp Plus would be getting a little fat...but I don’t think most would mind it.

EDIT:
even the existing 91mm tools would fit this way. And the regular or short/electronic scale tweezers would work like this:

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Or even just the tweezers,  There are many ways to find a toothpick shaped object in the wild


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #62 on: August 19, 2020, 09:43:30 PM
Victorinox needs to take the Tinker line and find a way to make the backside Phillips extendable.  Notch out the liner and move the tooth pick down in the scale like on the plus scales to allow for the Phillips extend out at 180 degrees away from the body of the knife.


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #63 on: August 19, 2020, 10:34:55 PM
Or even just the tweezers,  There are many ways to find a toothpick shaped object in the wild

I added a pair of sliver grippers to my EDC years ago.  They're about the size of a standard key and probably weigh less, so they ride unobtrusively on my key chain.  They are objectively better tweezers than SAK tweezers anyway, and carrying them also means I no longer need tweezers on my SAK.

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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #64 on: August 20, 2020, 04:30:17 AM
58mm Swiss Champ

No wait, 58mm XAVT


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #65 on: August 20, 2020, 07:06:01 AM
Plus scales on everything.
A Compact Tinker, ie Compact with a phillips head screwdriver instead of a corkscrew.
Even better, an 84mm Compact Tinker.


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #66 on: August 20, 2020, 03:34:22 PM
Plus scales on everything.
A Compact Tinker, ie Compact with a phillips head screwdriver instead of a corkscrew.
Even better, an 84mm Compact Tinker.

If there were Plus scales on everything... wouldn't you have less fun choosing? 


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #67 on: August 20, 2020, 04:27:50 PM
Executive expanded to “Executive Honey Do”. Expand to 20 layers. Add saw, file, eye lash applicator, Lipstick mirror, mascara applicator, tissue dispenser inside cork screw, magnifier for necklace hook, brassiere hook unfastener, zipper mender, equine hook/boot puller, rose pruner, RFID credit card chip embedded on scale with limit large enough for Lexus. Oh, and a yes button. Maybe not realistic, but certainly desperately needed. Will save tens of thousands, or millions, on therapy and divorce. Manufacturers suggested retail price: $10,500.
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #68 on: August 20, 2020, 04:34:46 PM
Realistic possibilities:
1. Fully serrated main blade on all 91 and 93 models.
2. Alox Rambler
3. Vagabond and Alox Vagabond
4. Farmer X and Pioneer X plus metal file
5.Silvertech the entire 91mm series
6. Cadet with small blade
7. Various small blade options on 91mm models
8. Pioneer X plus a blade layer with pruner and E-blade
9. Rambler limited editions, not just Classic


Wet dreams:
1. Pliers based keychain multi tool like the Leatherman Squirt maybe pliers with Rambler tools.
2. A scrapper tool like on the Spirit X for 91 and 93 tools.
3. Cadet X with awl
4. Wenger style tweezers for Alox models
5. Cadet X
7. Pioneer X plus pliers
8. One hand open Spirit X + pocket clip

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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #69 on: August 20, 2020, 04:38:24 PM
Nate, where do you get those silver grippers?


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #70 on: August 20, 2020, 04:45:00 PM
OHO Cybertool. This would be truly great for office use.



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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #71 on: August 20, 2020, 05:00:55 PM
As stated somewhere else, Electrician X.

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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #72 on: August 20, 2020, 05:33:22 PM
Nate, where do you get those silver grippers?

The particular pair I posted came from A.G. Russell (A.G. Russell Field Tweezers), but they are widely available online (including but not limited to Amazon and ebay) as "Uncle Bill's Sliver Grippers" or "Uncle Bill's Sliver Gripper Tweezers".  Just be sure the pair you order comes with the key chain clip, as the tweezers are also sometimes sold without key chain clips.

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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #73 on: August 20, 2020, 09:36:17 PM
How about the 130mm series in a scaled down size?   I like the look, the tools and everything else... But 130mm is just too big to EDC.

On the Wenger train of thought...  Do something about the marketing of the Evo and Delemont lineup.  If Victorinox wants to focus on tradition with their 91mm line, that's fine... I'm all about that.  If they want to market their 111mm line as workhorses, and military issue knives... that's good too.  But the old Wenger inspired tools are untapped market shares that will go the way of the LM Juice lineup if they're not careful. 

I'd like to see them hit the outdoor recreation market with the Evo and Delemont line and come up with their own problems that they need to solve with their own innovation.  They've done some things with tools for mountaineers in the past.... why not continue this with snowboarding, skiing, paddle boarding,  and mountain biking?

At this point... there are already too many similar choices.  Instead of new tool combos that we come up with... I'd be interested in seeing Vic solve a problem we didn't know we had by re-vitalizing their current offerings.  I'm sure that the 111mm Soldier sales went up when they re-purposed the OHT.  The same can happen for their Evo series. 


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #74 on: August 21, 2020, 12:04:01 AM
Executive expanded to “Executive Honey Do”. Expand to 20 layers. Add saw, file, eye lash applicator, Lipstick mirror, mascara applicator, tissue dispenser inside cork screw, magnifier for necklace hook, brassiere hook unfastener, zipper mender, equine hook/boot puller, rose pruner, RFID credit card chip embedded on scale with limit large enough for Lexus. Oh, and a yes button. Maybe not realistic, but certainly desperately needed. Will save tens of thousands, or millions, on therapy and divorce. Manufacturers suggested retail price: $10,500.

OHO Cybertool. This would be truly great for office use.
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #75 on: August 21, 2020, 05:49:23 AM
One more:

Silvertech Plus.

I mean, why the Smurf wasn’t this done already or originally?  :dunno:
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #76 on: August 21, 2020, 08:38:44 AM
OHO Cybertool. This would be truly great for office use.
I'm more for a bladeless Cybertool

Personally, I feel Victorinox should make a lot of bladeless variations. Not only would that be great for travel, it would also reduce the redundancy when carrying a folder.
I mean Vic offers a lot of cool tools for any environment and while the blade is OK, it is just OK. Why not drop it?
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #77 on: August 21, 2020, 08:57:43 AM
One more:

Silvertech Plus.

I mean, why the Smurf wasn’t this done already or originally?  :dunno:

Yes!
All scales should be plus, obviously.
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #78 on: August 21, 2020, 12:35:04 PM
One more:

Silvertech Plus.

I mean, why the Smurf wasn’t this done already or originally?  :dunno:

I've seen a SwissChamp Silvertech. Haven't checked, but it should have Plus scales, right?

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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #80 on: August 21, 2020, 06:07:35 PM
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I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #81 on: August 22, 2020, 12:07:35 AM
I'm more for a bladeless Cybertool

Personally, I feel Victorinox should make a lot of bladeless variations. Not only would that be great for travel, it would also reduce the redundancy when carrying a folder.
I mean Vic offers a lot of cool tools for any environment and while the blade is OK, it is just OK. Why not drop it?

That's a great idea.... I don't know why they haven't done this.  They had a precipitous drop in sales after Sept 11, 2001, and branched out into clothes and luggage.  Most of their stores were duty-free shops in airports. 
 
They can introduce as many bladeless options as they want.... besides just the "Jetsetter"  ... and people would buy them if they were still being sold in airports.  a bladeless SuperTinker or a bladeless Explorer would sell like hotcakes. 


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #82 on: August 22, 2020, 12:29:48 AM
I like the Swisschamp but find it quite a handful in use. Something I'd love to see, but am sure will never happen, is a SC divided into two two tools: a Spartan/Climber/Camper, and the rest.
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #83 on: August 22, 2020, 06:13:17 PM
I like the Swisschamp but find it quite a handful in use. Something I'd love to see, but am sure will never happen, is a SC divided into two two tools: a Spartan/Climber/Camper, and the rest.

It’s already been done (sort of) but in two large-ish knives. The Marlboro Troubleshooter and Outdoorsman are essentially that with double-up on the blade, scissor and opener layers.

I like the idea, but would want the thinner knife to have the combo tool and a serrated main and still double up on the scissors.
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #84 on: August 22, 2020, 06:15:56 PM
:rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

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That’s about how I felt when I figured that out. Just glad it wasn’t something I bought. Then I probably would have had the same reaction.
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #85 on: August 22, 2020, 07:28:09 PM
Hello
1. 93mm alox swiss champ (ofcourse without back tools).
2. Rambler alox



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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #86 on: August 22, 2020, 07:36:07 PM
Hello
1. 93mm alox swiss champ (ofcourse without back tools).

That..... plus crane to carry it...  :rofl:
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #87 on: August 22, 2020, 08:01:17 PM
If anything is to be done, change the plastic. Cellidor might be plant-based, being a form of cellulose acetate plastic, but it sucks. It is not very impact resistant. Cutting it out in favor of nylon would be so much better. Or even G-10, even if it would raise the cost. I noticed Bear and Son, on their Farmhand (Sodbuster) model, has changed from Delrin to G-10 while maintaining the same cost.


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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #88 on: August 22, 2020, 10:25:51 PM
I thought there already are nylon scales in use. In Economy, maybe Stay-glo, and 111mm lines?  I could be wrong but sure feel like nylon to me.
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Re: Victorinox in the 2020's: Realistic Possibilities
Reply #89 on: August 23, 2020, 03:32:26 AM
I thought there already are nylon scales in use. In Economy, maybe Stay-glo, and 111mm lines?  I could be wrong but sure feel like nylon to me.

The problem is that outside of 111mm, not a whole lot of models have it, when it needs to be standard. You've got what, 4-5 in the Ecoline/Economy/II series, and the Stayglo Classic SD, Huntsman, and Climber (I think the Huntsman's discontinued), and the Bantam, Recruit, and Sportsman in 84mm.   And then, isn't the 100mm line nylon handled?


 

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