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Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)

us Offline NKlamerus

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Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
on: October 26, 2018, 12:09:00 AM
Putting this out there for other users, specifically anyone enlarging the pivot hole in Vic Scissors (does someone know what size these are?) To put on a Wave or Charge. I believe the new hole is 7/32"

DO NOT go out and buy a cheap drill bit, it will end in anger. I purchased 2 nicer bits, a Bosch Cobalt bit and a Milwaukee Cement/Masonry Bit.

Either one would probably work, but after an hour of messing with it my attention span got the best of me.

I had also tried grinding stones in the Dremel, they worked better but I went through 2 of them in 10 minutes.

GET A CARBIDE BIT! I bought one for the Dremel for $8

Rounded out the new hole in about 2 minutes. It isn't perfectly round but I would prefer the scissors be a little looser, they pivot better and any play is taken out against the Leatherman frame.


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Re: Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
Reply #1 on: October 26, 2018, 02:24:41 AM
Dremels are a bit too fast for drilling that size hole in hardened stainless. For a 5.5mm hole, I'd probably be aiming under 1500RPM even with carbide bits. I think Dremels are about 5000+RPM aren't they?

Plenty of oil at the cutting action, and keep the feed on. If you let it dwell, it will work harden.


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Re: Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
Reply #2 on: October 26, 2018, 02:51:15 AM
Thanks for the tips! I remember obi even made a sewing eye on one of the scissor blade. That's crazy just by thinking about it....  :think:


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Re: Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 03:02:07 AM
Sidetrack a little, the scissors on wenger looks to be better in the sense that they have beefier springs. Never owned one so thats just my impression. I am just curious that I have not seen a wenger scissor made it's way into a wave.


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Re: Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
Reply #4 on: October 26, 2018, 03:48:11 AM
Sidetrack a little, the scissors on wenger looks to be better in the sense that they have beefier springs. Never owned one so thats just my impression. I am just curious that I have not seen a wenger scissor made it's way into a wave.
Is there a backspring in the leatherman to apply pressure to the arm on a Wenger scissor? If not I don’t think this would work because the Wenger scissors get their spring action from the backspring of a SAK, unlike Vic scissors that have a leaf spring.

Never modified a leatherman but I have added several sets of Wenger scissors to Victorinox knives.


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Re: Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
Reply #5 on: October 26, 2018, 03:48:59 AM
Sidetrack a little, the scissors on wenger looks to be better in the sense that they have beefier springs. Never owned one so thats just my impression. I am just curious that I have not seen a wenger scissor made it's way into a wave.

Sidetrack a little, the scissors on wenger looks to be better in the sense that they have beefier springs. Never owned one so thats just my impression. I am just curious that I have not seen a wenger scissor made it's way into a wave.
Is there a backspring in the leatherman to apply pressure to the arm on a Wenger scissor? If not I don’t think this would work because the Wenger scissors get their spring action from the backspring of a SAK, unlike Vic scissors that have a leaf spring.

Never modified a leatherman but I have added several sets of Wenger scissors to Victorinox knives.


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Re: Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
Reply #6 on: October 26, 2018, 04:13:58 AM
Sidetrack a little, the scissors on wenger looks to be better in the sense that they have beefier springs. Never owned one so thats just my impression. I am just curious that I have not seen a wenger scissor made it's way into a wave.

Sidetrack a little, the scissors on wenger looks to be better in the sense that they have beefier springs. Never owned one so thats just my impression. I am just curious that I have not seen a wenger scissor made it's way into a wave.
Is there a backspring in the leatherman to apply pressure to the arm on a Wenger scissor? If not I don’t think this would work because the Wenger scissors get their spring action from the backspring of a SAK, unlike Vic scissors that have a leaf spring.

Never modified a leatherman but I have added several sets of Wenger scissors to Victorinox knives.

That clears up the mystery. Never owned or handled one.. Didn't think that it requires a back spring...  :facepalm:


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Re: Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
Reply #7 on: October 26, 2018, 05:09:33 AM
Carbide coated glass-drilling bits work great on most hardened steels.

I drilled out a hole on my Buck 110 blade in about 10 seconds using a harbor freight glass drilling bit on my press and P-Blaster for cutting fluid.
Perfect holes done quickly. :)
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Re: Drilling into Vic Scissors (Hardened Steel)
Reply #8 on: October 26, 2018, 06:12:18 AM
I use the dremel bit in a dremel drill press mill thing they sell and I usually hold the tool relatively close so I can monitor the temperature with my fingers and remove and let it cool down and then repeat, and yes plenty of cutting oil.  I have been pondering getting a voltage regulator so I can adjust slow down the dremel, but what I’ve noticed is that bit works better at higher speeds than slower, again you need to be cognizant of the temperature.


 

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