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What to know about a Plate Carrier? 1036

Jr. Member Posts: 83
What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« on: November 04, 2020, 10:57:02 PM »
Hi
I think about getting a Plate Carrier and Plates from China since the situation getting worse and worse.
What should I know before I buy a Plate Carrier? Are there some special thinks I have to consider?
Thanks
No Life Club Posts: 1,893
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2020, 07:11:37 AM »
I’m not sure why you would specify “from China”, and that would not be my choice.


Regardless, the article linked below is an excellent primer on body armor:

https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/the-definitive-body-armor-qa
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Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2020, 12:40:09 PM »
How long will it take to come from China to you? I don't know how well post or carrier delivery is working right now. Maybe you need to look for other options.

 :think: :think:

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No Life Club Posts: 1,480
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2020, 12:39:03 PM »
I think backpacks that are bulletproof and can fit armor plates exist? Though I don't see why any large enough backpack couldn't fit armor plates inside. Because if the ongoing end of the world thought me anything, it is smurfing annoying to wear protective equipment all day long. And we are talking simple masks. The bulletproof items are even worse...  :D

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Jr. Member Posts: 83
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2020, 03:46:47 PM »
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I’m not sure why you would specify “from China”
Because European Company refuse to sell me some.
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How long will it take to come from China to you?
Well if I want there is something who call "ups overnight".  :rofl:
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t is smurfing annoying to wear protective equipment all day long.
Well I dont want to go hiking with it... Its more to protect my self.
Hero Member Posts: 645
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2020, 04:23:22 PM »
Because European Company refuse to sell me some.Well if I want there is something who call "ups overnight".  :rofl:Well I dont want to go hiking with it... Its more to protect my self.

The backpack is a nice option as the plate is concealed and no one gives it a second look. The vest option is more for those with occupations that needs it. In the latter it’s usually issued by the employer. I’ve been told wearing those vest is not very comfortable.

Sounds like you are in a high risk job? Have you asked your employer for one? Otherwise it’s very expensive. Especially for the higher caliber protection.

Jr. Member Posts: 83
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2020, 04:34:36 PM »
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Sounds like you are in a high risk job?
Did you heard about a think who called corona? Well it dont take that long until people get realy mad about the Gov...
Last week an insane nord macedonian guy with austrian passport killed with his illegal AK some people.
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 24,630
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2020, 04:37:38 PM »
Lets keep the politics out. :police:

Esse Quam Videri
Hero Member Posts: 645
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2020, 04:48:02 PM »
Did you heard about a think who called corona?

Yes, I have. But I prefer Coors.  :pok:
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 24,630
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2020, 05:02:47 PM »
I had a coors light and it wasn't bad.  That was 15 years ago tho.  I did have a non alcoholic beer but I cannot recall which.  It was pretty good as well.  Lastly, I had a cider?  It was very tasty but it snuck up on me  :ahhh.  That was 21 years ago. 


Esse Quam Videri
No Life Club Posts: 1,480
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2020, 05:30:29 PM »
One more thing. If one struts around wearing military armor the police, when they respond, might mistake one for one of aggressors. And one just might get oneself shot at by the good guys...

That was a lot of ones wasn't it?   :D

There is no magic therefore gadgets!
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Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2020, 05:39:40 PM »
Seems that you are in France? Maybe these gents can help:

https://www.bestprotection.de/koerperschutzsysteme/schutzwesten/?p=1

Good, professional level gear at very reasonable prlces. No affilication, but many local sports shooters who are into the miltary shooting sports race and train with these.

'haps also Templars Gear, again no affilication

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 14,610
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2020, 05:54:30 PM »
There's a cheap and easy way to solve this:

One of the main Covid guidelines:
Stay home

Otherwise, follow the first rule of de-escalation:
Stay away from potential hotspots, or run.

While everyone would run for their lives, you'll be dragged down by a heavy protection rig.
Slow people die first.

If you want to walk out every day with a fully stuffed plate carrier because "something might happen one day"
Fine.

Just keep in mind you'll more likely get hit by a car. But that's obviously not the excuse to buy tac gear and awake your inner Rambo.

Buy now or regret later
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 15,068 Yoo-hoo, big summer blowout!
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2020, 06:19:08 PM »
You should get a battle tank too, it's only a little bit more heavy than plates.  :pok:

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Jr. Member Posts: 83
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2020, 08:20:17 PM »
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Lets keep the politics out.
Trust me if I would be in the moode I could say much more thinks. But when the truth is offending you...
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Lastly, I had a cider?
Ikea have a good Alcohol free.  :drool:
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the police, when they respond, might mistake one for one of aggressors.
Well thanks I life in a Country where the Police dont act as the US one: "Shoot first, ask later".  :whistle:
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And one just might get oneself shot at by the good guys...
Well if the hit the Vest I sue them. If not I sue the Gov to.
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Seems that you are in France?
No? LOWW = VIE = Vienna International Airport
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Good, professional level gear at very reasonable prlces. No affilication, but many local sports shooters who are into the miltary shooting sports race and train with these.
Since its "just" a shop and not a producer I gues the are "just" the same Reseller who brand Chineese Plates them self: https://mili-tech.com/pages/militech%C2%AE-partners
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One of the main Covid guidelines:
Stay home
How about home invaders? Beside of that did you read what the Topic for the 2021 World Economic forum well be? Gov -> :twak: <- Citizen
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If you want to walk out
Well someday the Food will run out and I have to.
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You should get a battle tank too
I dont do some illegal stuff.
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 24,630
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2020, 09:37:32 PM »
What I can say has been best said before, https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,83271.msg2045988.html#msg2045988.

Please see Grants ( Owner of MTO ) response.   
   

 


Esse Quam Videri
Jr. Member Posts: 83
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2020, 09:41:38 PM »
 :think:Sorry I dont understand what you try to say?!
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 24,630
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2020, 09:59:46 PM »
Trust me if I would be in the moode I could say much more thinks. But when the truth is offending you

My apologies  :tu:

I am providing you with a link https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,83271.msg2045988.html#msg2045988 as to why we do not allow political discussions.  I stepped in to say No Politics as a reminder as you mentioned Corona and potential anger towards the GOV.  People have very strong feeling on both sides regardless of where they are from.  You also mention GOV a few more times.  All I am doing is reminding folks, including you who want to have a discussion in this topic to leave politics out.  You mention the police in the US "Well thanks I life in a Country where the Police dont act as the US one: "Shoot first, ask later". This can also be very divisive to many.  The link I offered is a very good one. 

I hope I am clear this time and sorry I wasn't before.   :hatsoff:

Esse Quam Videri
Jr. Member Posts: 83
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2020, 10:22:06 PM »
 :oops:

political and personal rant removed. 

« Last Edit: November 08, 2020, 02:52:37 AM by Aloha »
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 24,630
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2020, 10:26:13 PM »
 :facepalm:  I'm guessing you did not read the link I provided?  This is not the forum for such topics.  There are plenty of forums that would gladly discuss such topics. 


Esse Quam Videri
Jr. Member Posts: 83
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2020, 10:31:08 PM »
 ::) Who start with the discussion?  :think: I am quite relaxed and peaceful.  :angel:
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 52,707
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2020, 10:31:33 PM »
:oops:

LOWW, you have been asked nicely and warned that we do not allow the discussion of politics on MTo. I understand there may be a language barrier here but I think No Politics are allowed is pretty clear.

Please refrain from politics
Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 24,630
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2020, 10:35:00 PM »
::) Who start with the discussion?  :think: I am quite relaxed and peaceful.  :angel:

 :tu: Awesome.  Thats all we want.   

Esse Quam Videri
No Life Club Posts: 4,081
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2020, 12:06:08 AM »
They're all uncomfortable.

None of them are "bulletproof"

You might worry more about the plates than the carrier.

You can choose between more surface area covered or more freedom/range of movement.

Stab vests/inserts are a separate item. (and add more weight & bulk, less freedom of movement)

If you get shot in the groin/thigh you're still going to have a bad day.

They also don't protect against head injuries.

They're mostly designed for perfect rectangle or perhaps inverted trapezium shaped bodies, so if you're an odd shape, or have love handles etc, then invest in a comfortable and frictionless undershirt.

Some have quick release, so in the event that they don't prevent an injury, you can get them off fast to treat the injury.

There is not "catch all" option - you need to have a realistic expectation of the threat you expect to face in order to make a realistic decision about the level of protection you need - do you want more protection? quick to get on? comfortable to wear for long periods? how much do you want to spend?

It's as open a question as "What kind of tyres should I buy?" or "What knife should I get?"

Military ones tend to have all sorts of attachment points for bling and gewgaws, police/security ones can be a bit "cleaner" (So whether you are going to wear the carrier as a top layer or "covert" (inverted commas because trying to hide a plate carrier is a bit like trying to smuggle a wedding cake out under a hoodie...)

Hero Member Posts: 645
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2020, 01:25:25 AM »
When school shootings were increasing I looked into this for my son. Pre-Covid I was able to walk into a store that sold them and I’m glad I did. Learned a lot and was able to handle a few.

Looks like you don’t have that kind of choice but just throwing it out there that buying online is kinda hard and could be regretful purchase.

FYI I ended up not buying one. Instead sat down with him and just rehearsed with him what to do, have a escape route planned etc. He was in Grade School at the time and they had taken measures , but I didn’t think them adequate.
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,468
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2020, 02:01:43 AM »
...

Just keep in mind you'll more likely get hit by a car. But that's obviously not the excuse to buy tac gear and awake your inner Rambo.

Rambo doesn't wear body armor  ::).
No Life Club Posts: 4,081
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2020, 04:06:51 AM »
Rambo doesn't wear body armor  ::).

He's got Plot armour, the best armour of all....

No Life Club Posts: 1,480
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2020, 10:32:30 AM »
I youtubed armor plate backpack and this is the result:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIIwp_OgMkg&t=163s

A clever idea that... and it seems that it is something you could actually wear all day, though I'd rather not. The issue of your noggin, sides and and unmentionable area being unprotected still remains...  :D

There is no magic therefore gadgets!
No Life Club Posts: 1,825
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2021, 01:11:30 AM »
When school shootings were increasing I looked into this for my son.

...

FYI I ended up not buying one. Instead sat down with him and just rehearsed with him what to do, have a escape route planned etc. He was in Grade School at the time and they had taken measures , but I didn’t think them adequate.

As someone who worked at a school and had a previously odd and interesting life, I can tell you what you already know  - that school measures are nothing but a "feel-good" joke. There are complete plans that exist that would really help, but schools districts often cherry pick which parts of those plans they want to use and which parts they dont, which makes the parts they want to use less successfull.

Anyway,  here's an odd fact, but a couple of 3 inch thick text books together can stop a bullet. Your kid will get thrown to the ground hard but they can stop it. Maybe one or two, depending on range.

Your post just reminded me of these thoughts. That's all
Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 20,073 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: What to know about a Plate Carrier?
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2021, 12:42:46 PM »
As someone who worked at a school and had a previously odd and interesting life, I can tell you what you already know  - that school measures are nothing but a "feel-good" joke. There are complete plans that exist that would really help, but schools districts often cherry pick which parts of those plans they want to use and which parts they dont, which makes the parts they want to use less successfull.

Anyway,  here's an odd fact, but a couple of 3 inch thick text books together can stop a bullet. Your kid will get thrown to the ground hard but they can stop it. Maybe one or two, depending on range.

Your post just reminded me of these thoughts. That's all

Kids, read more, stay safe!

 :tu: :tu:

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