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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #90 on: November 23, 2020, 11:33:08 PM
Great work on the formatting!

Quote from: jnoxyd on November 23, 2020, 10:51:32 PM
@kamakiri ;)(Image removed from quote.)

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I was waiting for you to post yours first.  :pok:  ;)

I think I need to ask you and others for everything (serious vintage) earlier! Nothing 91mm before ‘46 in my collection.  :cheers:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #91 on: November 24, 2020, 06:00:33 AM
Now we are down to real nitty gritty - And just some suggestions/observations from me!

Quote from: Max Stone on November 23, 2020, 10:35:20 PM
On the VSSw/OS question, we need to havd a unique code for each type of stamp, hence the unique w being added. I think keeping the number of capitals matching the number of lines makes sense, as it would get messing trying to differentiate between Victoria/Victorinox, Swiss Made/Switzerland, etc. So long as the code is unique, we're golden.

Ah OK - I get it - But should it not be VSwS/OS and shouldn't the 2011 line be VSwS/OS.
Although I would be tempted to just leave out the w as we have the image and the text describes the difference. These debates could go on for ever     :o   - I'll bow out of this one

Quote from: Max Stone on November 23, 2020, 10:35:20 PM
Still not convinced about the carets, but not sure how else to differentiate the two...
How about using the same convention as the V ?   ???
- So put E/VSSR for the first and just E/VSSR for the second?
As there is only one of these - We would not need a note at the bottom, so for the description we could just put: 
'Elinox with Crossbow/Victorinox Switzerland Stainless Rostfrei. Note: E - The ELINOX crossbow stamp is larger'


And even nittier and grittier - No question about the OCD here!  ;)
  • How about making the Date column centred using the :: text :: formatting command? 
  • I am not sure why there are hard spaces (~hs~) at the beginning of the text columns - Probably just how the table was set up all those years ago - for the 1952 - 1957 and 1992 - 20005 rows this formatting makes the row look a bit odd! And maybe for more rows if you are looking on an iphone as there will be more wrapping. I do not believe these hard spaces are needed.
All just suggestions and IMHO of course    :o    -  Although I did do a test run of these two changes in the table and it looks pretty good and a little bit  better    :tu: 
I kept a copy of the tables with these changes, so let me know if you want the copy, or want me to apply the changes - Or maybe want me to pop it into a test page so that anyone who wants to can see it
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #92 on: November 24, 2020, 01:51:24 PM
Are we adding other tang stamps as well? I mean, those used on can openers, bottle openers, etc.?
I just discovered an ARMÈE SUISSE stamp on the cap lifter of an 1930s (I think) SAK. The combination with the main blade stamp doesn't make sense, so I'm having a hard time dating this SAK.

Yes, I know it's a terrible pic ;)
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #93 on: November 24, 2020, 02:22:24 PM
Interesting, Reinier - I see they’ve used armèe when it ought to be armée..... A Victorinox original error?
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #94 on: November 24, 2020, 02:40:24 PM
Yes it does look like a spelling error to me. But it has been used for a while I believe (maybe forty years). Ulli calls it V1: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,50014.msg839479.html#msg839479
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #95 on: November 24, 2020, 03:07:02 PM
Fascinating! I suppose being a Schweizer-Deutsch canton meant less concern over the accuracy of the French used - we know there’s an accent of some kind there!  :rofl: Thanks, Reinier!
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #96 on: November 24, 2020, 03:12:59 PM
We should document all relevant tang stamps that will help ID and date a SAK, including those on openers. We can add a new table dedicated to these non-blade stamps. Contributions welcome  :salute:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #97 on: November 24, 2020, 03:15:22 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on November 24, 2020, 06:00:33 AM
Now we are down to real nitty gritty - And just some suggestions/observations from me!
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All good suggestions Huntsman. Will look at these tonight.  :tu:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #98 on: November 24, 2020, 05:10:19 PM
Quote from: Max Stone on November 23, 2020, 09:24:52 PM
Thanks rookie  :cheers: its in, but if you get a chance, you're welcome to retake when the light's good and you can get a white reflection on the tang.  :tu:

I tried my best  :dunno:
If it is not good enough, maybe someone can copy and make it better than me.
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #99 on: November 24, 2020, 06:01:38 PM
Those are good, thanks rookie  :like: we’ll update the entry later today. Thanks again for taking these pics.  :hatsoff:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #100 on: November 24, 2020, 06:27:11 PM
You are welcome :cheers:

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Reply #101 on: November 24, 2020, 07:31:32 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on November 24, 2020, 06:00:33 AM
Now we are down to real nitty gritty...

Formatting looking better  :tu:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #102 on: November 24, 2020, 10:11:08 PM
In addition to tidying up the formatting, I have also added a paragraph explaining the stamp coding and a paragraph explaining the date ranges (thanks Ulli to his post here https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,50014.msg2106602.html#msg2106602).

I've also removed the "under construction" banner from the top of the page, as we are now at a point (I believe) that there's enough information and ppl can start using the page (some are already). We will obviously continue to build on this page, so I have added a line in the heading paragraph to this effect.  :cheers:

So where do we go next, 84mm? I am reconsidering the inclusion of tangs on other tools such as the cap opener, as there's already a good page here https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Can+Opener So maybe we stick to (main) blades only?  :dunno:

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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #103 on: November 24, 2020, 10:48:55 PM
Quote from: Max Stone on November 24, 2020, 10:11:08 PM

So where do we go next, 84mm? I am reconsidering the inclusion of tangs on other tools such as the cap opener, as there's already a good page here https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Can+Opener So maybe we stick to (main) blades only?  :dunno:

Can openers could use a lot of work, but a lot of it I’m just not ready to publish to the level of detail that I want. Even for a broad stroke edit, it needs a fair amount of rework to match the current level of knowledge here. If you want to these are the main categories I’d start with:

Blank c.’51
US.PAT.PEND (UPP) mid-‘51 to early ‘53
Large +PAT ‘53-‘57
Small +PAT ‘57 to mid-‘71
Blank (lots of varieties I won’t go into yet)

84mm? Up to you...I’ll support the effort as much as I can. And don’t have nearly as many total compared to 91mm, but decent availability in say my 136ka Craftsman lineup from about ‘50 to mid ‘70s.

 :dunno:

I say up to you and great work so far.  :tu:

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Maybe a plug for donations should be on that page? With all the ‘bay users of the wiki...I think that would be appropriate.  :dunno:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #104 on: November 24, 2020, 11:08:28 PM
Plug added - good suggestion  :tu:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #105 on: November 24, 2020, 11:55:05 PM
Quote from: Max Stone on November 24, 2020, 11:08:28 PM
Plug added - good suggestion  :tu:

 :cheers: :tu:

I figure they gotta know SAK nuts like us support them. So supporting MTO and the Wiki just needs the reminder. I think I’m going to drop a note to some of my regular suppliers.
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #106 on: November 25, 2020, 03:27:08 AM
Quote from: Max Stone on November 24, 2020, 07:31:32 PM
Formatting looking better  :tu:

Loving all the latest updates, particularly the explanatory paragraphs - This page just gets better and better

Not only is it packed with amazing content - It is a work of art with beautiful prose, clarity and explanations - As we come to expect from you mate!
And thanks to every one else for the knowledge and great piccies. 

But do you think you could make the donations request a bit more obvious    :pok:     ;)     :D
Good suggestion KK - It does pain me a little when you see text from the Wiki in ebay adds and you just know they will have grabbed it, no credit statement to the Wiki, and certainly not donated
However we are determined to keep SAKWiki a completely free resource, so reminders like this are much appreciated.

We should maybe also add something like that banner to the Tools page - As it is our second most visited page (after the Home Page) 
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #107 on: November 25, 2020, 06:52:01 AM
Thanks Huntsman, kamakiri.  :iagree: The page is starting to look good.  :tu:

It’s a bit challenging to make tiki formatting exciting and to make the donation request more ‘in your face’, but we could use the same donation button image immediately below the text, with a link?
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #108 on: November 25, 2020, 07:02:58 AM
Wow that tang stamp page is looking awesome, so much done since I last looked a few weeks ago. Thanks to you and all your hard work and dedication, it’s really appreciated.

I know it’s a difficult subject but you’re right to make the donations button more prominent, I use the wiki a lot and am proud to be a donator and will continue to do so. As a collector it’s a truly invaluable resource

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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #109 on: November 25, 2020, 08:49:32 AM
I've added the PayPal-linked donation button directly into the contribution request on the page. This makes it very prominent when landing on this page, especially when using mobile, where the default donate button gets pushed to the bottom.

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We should maybe also add something like that banner to the Tools page - As it is our second most visited page (after the Home Page) 

Have added the contribution box to the Tools page (with updated text). We can adjust if needed based on feedback.
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #110 on: November 25, 2020, 09:08:52 AM
I can happily say that the PayPal button works :whistle:
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #111 on: November 25, 2020, 09:21:31 AM
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #112 on: November 25, 2020, 12:27:59 PM
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #113 on: November 25, 2020, 01:36:23 PM
I think we can shift our focus to the next tang category...

 :wait: :wait: :wait: anyone willing to post their 84mm tang images and offer some date range estimates?  :wait: :wait: :wait:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #114 on: November 25, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: kamakiri on November 20, 2020, 10:06:15 PM
...Text only designs seem easier to make and maintain. I think it’s a good thing to see completely new stamps every few years instead.

A little off subject; does anyone have the back story on why tangs stamps were changed so frequently? I am sure that brand identity (and worn, pre-CNC dies) played a big part in the early days, but from 1947 - 2011 we have no less than 12 distinctly different tang stamps on 91mm range. Some only lasted a year or two, while others endured for 10-15 years. Why was there no reverse stamp during the mid-70s? Why was the Crossbow dropped in 2005? (seems Victorinox is no longer a member of Swiss Label, the organization that promotes the crossbow trademark since 1917.)

We have seen stability since 2005, with only the V reduced in size to match the new corporate logo, so we are probably in a new era with less chance of changing stamp designs, but knowing a little about the historic evolution of the stamps will be interesting to understand...  :dunno:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #115 on: November 25, 2020, 05:36:51 PM
Amazing job/work in progress guys  :hatsoff:

One little complaint: VSSR was widely already used for Victorinox Switzerland Stainless Rostfrei... But why not using VSMS for Victorinox Swiss Made Switzerland instead of VSS only ?

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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #116 on: November 25, 2020, 05:50:09 PM
Thanks Zanza, lots of contribution from many people  :hatsoff:

The reason for no 'M' is because the number of capitals matches the number of rows of text, which itself is an easily identifiable reference when scanning through the various codes. The letter S has a number of references ( Schwyz, Suisse, Stainless, Switzerland, Swiss Made), but is associated correctly when the full code is defined, so there's no need to have SM for Swiss Made.  :salute:
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #117 on: November 25, 2020, 05:58:38 PM
Got it  ;)
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #118 on: November 26, 2020, 07:04:27 AM
Quote from: Max Stone on November 25, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
A little off subject; does anyone have the back story on why tangs stamps were changed so frequently? I am sure that brand identity (and worn, pre-CNC dies) played a big part in the early days, but from 1947 - 2011 we have no less than 12 distinctly different tang stamps on 91mm range. Some only lasted a year or two, while others endured for 10-15 years. Why was there no reverse stamp during the mid-70s? Why was the Crossbow dropped in 2005? (seems Victorinox is no longer a member of Swiss Label, the organization that promotes the crossbow trademark since 1917.)

We have seen stability since 2005, with only the V reduced in size to match the new corporate logo, so we are probably in a new era with less chance of changing stamp designs, but knowing a little about the historic evolution of the stamps will be interesting to understand...  :dunno:

I suspect change of the main line tang thickness had something to do with the mid ‘70s blank tangs. Might have been a cost saving decision or an issue with double sided stamp tooling and perhaps automated feeding. A lot of cleanup work on the dies is seen in the late ‘70s. It appears to me that they don’t figure out the issue until about 1980.
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Re: Wiki Tang Stamp Page Project
Reply #119 on: November 29, 2020, 09:46:48 AM
Quote from: Zanza on November 25, 2020, 05:36:51 PM
Amazing job/work in progress guys  :hatsoff:
:iagree: Thank you all, Sirs!  :hatsoff:
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