Christy knife.

[cbl51]

Here is my North American Arms mini revolver

 

[cbl51]

Since the Christy's now come with a split key ring instead of a key chain, I thought I would show pictures of how I would hold them for opening and closing.

I added a small split key ring like the ones that come on a Victorinox Classic and then hooked the split key ring that comes with the knife to it. This extends the keys and key ring just a slight bit when your little finger is hooked through the key ring to anchor the knife and keep the handle from sliding forward when sliding the blade forward.

If you have larger hands you might need 2 small split key rings to extend the keys and key ring far enough.Also, if you have larger hands you may need to get the next size larger split key ring for your little finger to fit through it.

Good set-up!

Do I spy a Victorinox quatro on your keychain? I grew up carrying a Sear's 4-way keychain screw driver on my keyring, but switched to a Vic quatro a few years ago, for the better small Phillips bits on it. It seems the whole world is now held together with number 2 or smaller Phillips, and the old Sear's just didn't have the good capacity for that. I had then the old Sear's 4-way and filed down the smallest bit on it for Philips use, and it worked, but not as well as the Victorinox product.

Like my old Case peanut, I now find that with a Christy, a keychain screw driver, and my old P-38 in my wallet, I can get by very well in the wilds of modern suburbia or outright urban jungle.  Add a small light like a Fenix E01 and I'm all set.

[VICMAN]

Good set-up!

Do I spy a Victorinox quatro on your keychain? 

Thanks cbl51!

Actually I have an H C. Cook Co. Powerful Pete one which was the first 4-way Key chain pocket screwdriver and has the smaller size screwdriver tips on it and I also have the Craftsman version with slightly larger screwdriver tips.

[VICMAN]

Good set-up!

  Add a small light like a Fenix E01 and I'm all set.

I also carry a rechargeable Nitecore Tini flashlight with 3 brightness settings 38, 145, and 380 Lumens.

[pfrsantos]

I seem to keep running in to a few of the same guys.
Here is the Companion and Mariner. The Companion is currently in my pocket.
The Mariner is for Sunday-go-to-meetin'.
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Man, love that lighter! That's a beautiful combo!

 

[VICMAN]

Man, love that lighter! That's a beautiful combo!

 

 

[William]

Gotta check out the Mini Revolver. Mine's a little large for a "small" pistol. Bond Arms Snake Slayer 45/410.

[VICMAN]

Gotta check out the Mini Revolver. Mine's a little large for a "small" pistol. Bond Arms Snake Slayer 45/410.

Very nice William!

Yours has a little more stopping power.

[William]

Very nice William!

Yours has a little more stopping power.

A little. It can also break you wrist if you don't hold it right (just kiddin').

[cbl51]

Gotta check out the Mini Revolver. Mine's a little large for a "small" pistol. Bond Arms Snake Slayer 45/410.
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I've looked at those until I'm crosseyed. I'm very very tempted, but at my age and arthritis, I worry the recoil will be too much for me. That after the first shot, I won't have the stones to pull the trigger a second time!

[William]

I've looked at those until I'm crosseyed. I'm very very tempted, but at my age and arthritis, I worry the recoil will be too much for me. That after the first shot, I won't have the stones to pull the trigger a second time!

With a .410 and buckshot, you should only need one shot. You can get .22 barrels for practice.
I do agree that it is a bit much. May downsize to the North American Arms.

[cbl51]

With a .410 and buckshot, you should only need one shot. You can get .22 barrels for practice.
I do agree that it is a bit much. May downsize to the North American Arms.

Yeah, a blast of .410,  000 buckshot should solve most encounters of the ugly kind! But I like to practice with whatever gun I carry, so how bad is it? Like compared to a S&W J frame .38 special with the 125 grain plus P load? The little snubbie has quite a kick in the hotter loads, so is the Bond .410 much worse in spite of being noticeably heavier?

I have looked at the Bond backup in 9mm.

I love the little NAA because they are fun to shoot and with practice fairly accurate.  And with the Black Widow, you have two cylinders for both the .22LR and .22 magnum. Very nice carry set up.

[Poncho65]

Great idea with the extra keyring, VMAN I may just do that instead of the chain

Morr awesome pics as well, VMAN and William

[VICMAN]

Great idea with the extra keyring, VMAN I may just do that instead of the chain

Morr awesome pics as well, VMAN and William

Thanks Poncho!

[William]

Yeah, a blast of .410,  000 buckshot should solve most encounters of the ugly kind! But I like to practice with whatever gun I carry, so how bad is it? Like compared to a S&W J frame .38 special with the 125 grain plus P load? The little snubbie has quite a kick in the hotter loads, so is the Bond .410 much worse in spite of being noticeably heavier?

I have looked at the Bond backup in 9mm.

I love the little NAA because they are fun to shoot and with practice fairly accurate.  And with the Black Widow, you have two cylinders for both the .22LR and .22 magnum. Very nice carry set up.

To be honest I have never fired it. In fact, it has never been fired at all. My brother bought it several years ago just before he passed. I kind of inherited it and am reluctant to fire it. I have about 10 .410 shells so would only use it if I had to. That is why I am considering looking at the little guy, I have watched videos on it and doesn't look all that bad. When I carried for my job, I always had my .45 ACP Government 1911. That could kick with the right hardball in it.

[TonySal]

Thanks Poncho!

yes, I found a small brass split ring for my Mariner!

[nate j]

I really don't understand the attraction of .410/45 handguns.

The .410 is not exactly a well-respected man stopper out of a full-length shotgun barrel.  I'm always happy to learn something new, but as of this writing I'm not aware of any professionals who recommend a shotgun smaller than 20 gauge for personal defense (even for smaller-framed or recoil-sensitive shooters), nor any law enforcement agencies or military units that issue any shotgun smaller than that.  The lower velocities provided by a short handgun barrel are going to render the .410 even less effective.  If one wants something to kill snakes with, snake shot is available in a number of popular handgun calibers.

A .45 is a solid choice.  Certainly, trade-offs have to be made between size/weight and firepower for a gun that is going to be carried, and different folks find different balance points between the two that work for them.  However, that Bond Arms piece weighs 20 ounces empty and only has a capacity of two rounds.  If I wanted to carry a .45 that weighed about 20 ounces, I'd get a Glock 30S, which weighs 22.75 ounces empty and comes standard with a 10-round magazine.

I have eyed those NAA mini-revolvers though.  Perhaps the ultimate small lightweight handgun; a true modern pocket pistol.  While I'd prefer a magnum, and I'm not generally an advocate (for tactical and PR reasons) of open carry, I might even be tempted to get the version with the ornate belt buckle; I bet I could wear it around, with the vast majority of people never recognizing it for what it is.

[VICMAN]

yes, I found a small brass split ring for my Mariner!

 

[William]

I really don't understand the attraction of .410/45 handguns.

The .410 is not exactly a well-respected man stopper out of a full-length shotgun barrel.  I'm always happy to learn something new, but as of this writing I'm not aware of any professionals who recommend a shotgun smaller than 20 gauge for personal defense (even for smaller-framed or recoil-sensitive shooters), nor any law enforcement agencies or military units that issue any shotgun smaller than that.  The lower velocities provided by a short handgun barrel are going to render the .410 even less effective.  If one wants something to kill snakes with, snake shot is available in a number of popular handgun calibers.

A .45 is a solid choice.  Certainly, trade-offs have to be made between size/weight and firepower for a gun that is going to be carried, and different folks find different balance points between the two that work for them.  However, that Bond Arms piece weighs 20 ounces empty and only has a capacity of two rounds.  If I wanted to carry a .45 that weighed about 20 ounces, I'd get a Glock 30S, which weighs 22.75 ounces empty and comes standard with a 10-round magazine.

I have eyed those NAA mini-revolvers though.  Perhaps the ultimate small lightweight handgun; a true modern pocket pistol.  While I'd prefer a magnum, and I'm not generally an advocate (for tactical and PR reasons) of open carry, I might even be tempted to get the version with the ornate belt buckle; I bet I could wear it around, with the vast majority of people never recognizing it for what it is.

I agree that it is not a very good carry or personal protection weapon however, as the name implies, it makes a better "Snake Slayer " for which it was intended. I think the. 410 load would be fine for that. Quality on this is extremely good. I still plan on looking at the North American Arms piece.

[GearedForwards]

I really don't understand the attraction of .410/45 handguns.

The .410 is not exactly a well-respected man stopper out of a full-length shotgun barrel.  I'm always happy to learn something new, but as of this writing I'm not aware of any professionals who recommend a shotgun smaller than 20 gauge for personal defense (even for smaller-framed or recoil-sensitive shooters), nor any law enforcement agencies or military units that issue any shotgun smaller than that.  The lower velocities provided by a short handgun barrel are going to render the .410 even less effective.  If one wants something to kill snakes with, snake shot is available in a number of popular handgun calibers.

A .45 is a solid choice.  Certainly, trade-offs have to be made between size/weight and firepower for a gun that is going to be carried, and different folks find different balance points between the two that work for them.  However, that Bond Arms piece weighs 20 ounces empty and only has a capacity of two rounds.  If I wanted to carry a .45 that weighed about 20 ounces, I'd get a Glock 30S, which weighs 22.75 ounces empty and comes standard with a 10-round magazine.

I have eyed those NAA mini-revolvers though.  Perhaps the ultimate small lightweight handgun; a true modern pocket pistol.  While I'd prefer a magnum, and I'm not generally an advocate (for tactical and PR reasons) of open carry, I might even be tempted to get the version with the ornate belt buckle; I bet I could wear it around, with the vast majority of people never recognizing it for what it is.

Besides being intended for pests/snakes, as someone from the UK with great restrictions for firearms but a keen interest in them... Diddy shotgun shells look cute 

You could argue that spread means you don't have to be as accurate, but I don't think .410 was ever intended for self defense or tactical use. Same with the weight of the Bond Arms, it's primarily a novelty really I think.

[TonySal]

When exactly did this thread get hijacked 

[William]

When exactly did this thread get hijacked 

Sorry. Back to our regularly scheduled program.

[VICMAN]

Sorry. Back to our regularly scheduled program.

Nice pic William!

[William]

Nice pic William!

Thank you....

[TonySal]

Sorry. Back to our regularly scheduled program.
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[nate j]

I agree that it is not a very good carry or personal protection weapon however, as the name implies, it makes a better "Snake Slayer " for which it was intended. I think the. 410 load would be fine for that.

I agree the .410 would work for that purpose.  Further, I understand that you inherited the piece, rather than choosing it yourself.  One of the points I was trying to make, though, is that with snake shot available in .22 LR, .38, 9 mm, .40 S&W, .44, and .45, folks would probably be better off buying a gun in one of those calibers (or using one they already own) and loading it with snake shot as needed, than to buy a dedicated "Snake Slayer".

You could argue that spread means you don't have to be as accurate

No, not really.  Rule of thumb for cylinder choke shotguns is only about 1" of pattern diameter for every yard of distance from target..

I don't think .410 was ever intended for self defense or tactical use.

One would hope not, but see the Taurus Judge and S&W Governor.

Same with the weight of the Bond Arms, it's primarily a novelty really I think.

[Poncho65]

Been carrying my Christy along side of a Black scaled Executive this week as well I have added the 2 split rings to it and can find it in my pocket much more easily now and using the bigger ring I can now open it better as well

[Poncho65]

Still need to order some replacement blades but haven't sat down and took the time yet

[VICMAN]

Been carrying my Christy along side of a Black scaled Executive this week as well I have added the 2 split rings to it and can find it in my pocket much more easily now and using the bigger ring I can now open it better as well

Nice pics Poncho!

Nice use of the 2 small split rings with the bigger ring!

[Poncho65]

If you look close in the first picture you can see that the second small split ring is actually a lobster claw I used it to give the whole setup a bit more swivel

Thanks VMAN