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Rafter Square 413

Newbie Posts: 24
Rafter Square
« on: April 07, 2021, 12:04:22 PM »
I saw someone using one on a YouTube video and used a decking project I'd got to do as the excuse to buy one.
"What do you need more tools for? "  :pok: is usually the cry from Mrs Cakemonster but even she was impressed with how useful it was!
To be fair to her, she doesn’t mind getting involved and was doing the marking out while I did the cutting and fixing.
In short if you haven't got one, get a rafter square, so useful 👍
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,968 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2021, 08:49:59 PM »
I saw someone using one on a YouTube video and used a decking project I'd got to do as the excuse to buy one.
"What do you need more tools for? "  :pok: is usually the cry from Mrs Cakemonster but even she was impressed with how useful it was!
To be fair to her, she doesn’t mind getting involved and was doing the marking out while I did the cutting and fixing.
In short if you haven't got one, get a rafter square, so useful 👍

:worthless:

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No Life Club Posts: 1,592
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 05:56:05 AM »
"What do you need more tools for? "

I used to get that and variations of "This can't possibly be needed" from a close relative who shall remain anonymous. That was until said anonymous person needed to make something, and not having suitable tools himself he turned to me. It was almost like seeing someone severely near sighted put on glasses for the first time - the need for tools suddenly came into focus. And many things previously consider impossible, or not considered at all, became possible because tools provided those options.

Yes, I do have a rafter square too and they are great for their uses. Although I rarely use it as I seldom do anything with wood.

"Simple is hard"
(Partial disclosure: I design tools for a living).
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,674
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 06:20:35 AM »
I have a metric Empire one but haven't used the rafter function yet. There's another brand which might be better.  :think:

Very hand just as a square or to make square crosscuts with the circular saw. I have used it to mark some funky angles too (by rotating it about the pivot).

Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,268
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2021, 09:16:40 PM »
The original brand of the cast aluminum type (at least I think it is :think: ) that Synco has a pic of is Swanson :cheers: The Swanson Speed Square has been around for ages and are very handy squares indeed :salute:



They also come in a 12 inch model that is handy for a variety of tasks in itself :cheers:

I have the Swanson plus a few other brands of these and also the 12 inch one  :salute:

I also have an older type of these that if I remember I will get a pic of :tu: I love a good square and have several different types :dd: I have a brand of folding square that to me is much more compact and handy than the speed/rafter square but the speed square does a fee things it can't  :salute:

The brand of the folding square is Nobex and is made in Sweden. I have had one of those (well a few of them in different sizes and some have 3 locking position and some have quite a few more ;) ) for more than 15 years :tu:



Did I mention I love squares :dd: :D
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,674
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2021, 10:07:18 PM »
Ahh Swanson, that's right. :tu:  They only had Empire at my hardware store, both aluminium and plastic ones.

One difference is the Swanson has notches to aid with scribing lines parallel to the edge of the timber.

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,674
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2021, 10:24:30 PM »
There's plenty of Speed/Rafter Square videos on YouTube. This one covers the basics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhWpuWvtEA

Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,268
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2021, 02:59:09 PM »
Ahh Swanson, that's right. :tu:  They only had Empire at my hardware store, both aluminium and plastic ones.

One difference is the Swanson has notches to aid with scribing lines parallel to the edge of the timber.

The notches do come  in handy :tu:
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,674
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2021, 03:25:10 PM »
The notches do come  in handy :tu:

I wonder if I could mod some notches into my speed square......

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,968 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2021, 08:55:32 PM »
There's plenty of Speed/Rafter Square videos on YouTube. This one covers the basics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhWpuWvtEA

Thanks for sharing! I love seeing the pros showing how to use and make the most of their tools. That's how you begin to appreciate awl the little details and why they're there.

 :cheers: :tu:

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No Life Club Posts: 1,606
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2021, 09:18:42 PM »
Even if only using these to make tight right angle cuts from saws with no real fence they are worth their weight in Gold for me!
I can use them with a Sawzall,Jigsaw and even hand saws and MTs to get decent cuts when I need to.
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,674
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2021, 12:50:00 AM »
Even if only using these to make tight right angle cuts from saws with no real fence they are worth their weight in Gold for me!
Yeah it has replaced the combination square as my go-to for marking right-angle cuts.

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,968 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2021, 05:29:52 PM »
Found this online, from a physical store nearby. Might get one, they are really useful and versatile.


________________________________
It is just a matter of time before they add the word “Syndrome” after my last name.

I don't have OCD, I have OCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.

Eff the ineffable, scrut the inscrutable.

IYCRTYSWTMTFOT

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,674
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2021, 02:38:56 AM »
Found this online, from a physical store nearby. Might get one, they are really useful and versatile.
See if you can find a Swanson one with the notches.  :pok:
Do you really want imperial?  :poke:

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,968 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2021, 12:33:39 PM »
See if you can find a Swanson one with the notches.  :pok:
Do you really want imperial?  :poke:

I've searched the interwebs for it in Portugal, but this was the only one I found. Not much variety of tools offered here.

 :-\

________________________________
It is just a matter of time before they add the word “Syndrome” after my last name.

I don't have OCD, I have OCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.

Eff the ineffable, scrut the inscrutable.

IYCRTYSWTMTFOT

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,968 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2021, 09:29:25 PM »

________________________________
It is just a matter of time before they add the word “Syndrome” after my last name.

I don't have OCD, I have OCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.

Eff the ineffable, scrut the inscrutable.

IYCRTYSWTMTFOT

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 19,968 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2021, 09:30:17 PM »

________________________________
It is just a matter of time before they add the word “Syndrome” after my last name.

I don't have OCD, I have OCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.

Eff the ineffable, scrut the inscrutable.

IYCRTYSWTMTFOT

Global Moderator Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 24,527
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2021, 11:47:19 PM »
Good tool to have even for the DIY'er.  I picked one up a while ago and its been fun learning how the pros use it. 

Esse Quam Videri
Sr. Member Posts: 371
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2021, 02:34:38 AM »
I have a few squares that I use but none of them had any of the scribe notches in them.  After seeing a video where people were using their squares with the notches in them, I decided to go buy a new one.  I ended up buying this 6 inch square with a fold out portion that makes it 12 inches.  At first I thought it was pretty gimmicky but now, over time I have started to really like it. 

Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,268
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2021, 11:59:51 AM »
I wonder if I could mod some notches into my speed square......

Could always try :shrug: :D I would say a hacksaw blade or a file :think: the file would likely yield a better result as long as it wasn't a very thick file :cheers: a triangle file might be an even better option, you could file it as small or as big as you wanted but have to be careful to keep it as close to the measurement as you could :ahhh
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,268
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2021, 12:03:19 PM »
I have a few squares that I use but none of them had any of the scribe notches in them.  After seeing a video where people were using their squares with the notches in them, I decided to go buy a new one.  I ended up buying this 6 inch square with a fold out portion that makes it 12 inches.  At first I thought it was pretty gimmicky but now, over time I have started to really like it.

Don't think I have seen those :o I :like: it :cheers: Anything new that might make thing easier is great to try out :salute: :like:
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,268
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2021, 12:05:20 PM »
I've searched the interwebs for it in Portugal, but this was the only one I found. Not much variety of tools offered here.

 :-\

I rarely use the measurements on mine :whistle: mostly the right angle or the other angles on it :cheers: So not a big deal for me with imperial or metric :tu:
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,674
Re: Rafter Square
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2021, 01:04:07 PM »
Could always try :shrug: :D I would say a hacksaw blade or a file :think: the file would likely yield a better result as long as it wasn't a very thick file :cheers: a triangle file might be an even better option, you could file it as small or as big as you wanted but have to be careful to keep it as close to the measurement as you could :ahhh

Yeah I think I would drill holes large enough to get a triangle file in as shown below:


 

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