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Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters? 572

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Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« on: April 20, 2021, 02:29:13 AM »
Do we know what the fixed Phillips of the Rebar/ST300 etc material is?
And the wire-cutters were 154CM but they only say "premium steel" now? So what is it? :think:
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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2021, 02:33:24 AM »
I've always presumed it's just 420HC, hardened slightly softer than the blades.
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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2021, 04:22:12 AM »
The drivers are 420hc but the replaceable cutters could be anything now :shrug: I know at one time they said they were 154CM but that was a pretty good while back, cost cutting could have changed what they are made of but I have no idea how to determine that ???
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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2021, 11:33:22 AM »
It says 440c in the answer :think: That makes them just a little better than the 420HC anyways :shrug: Thanks for that, Juan :salute:
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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2021, 12:39:48 PM »
I always thought 440C was kind of brittle, so the 154CM would be a better choice for wire cutters :think:

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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2021, 12:54:59 PM »
It says 440c in the answer :think: That makes them just a little better than the 420HC anyways :shrug: Thanks for that, Juan :salute:

Oooops, sorry; did not read it right.  :facepalm:
Global Moderator Just Bananas Posts: 64,396
Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2021, 02:12:34 PM »
I always thought 440C was kind of brittle, so the 154CM would be a better choice for wire cutters :think:

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I am not a metalurgist but always thought that 154CM would have been harder because of it's use as an upgraded steel on the Charge pe blades :shrug: I am wrong often though :D

Oooops, sorry; did not read it right.  :facepalm:

No biggie ;) as I said above, it is usually me that is wrong :D
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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2021, 03:47:05 PM »
Hardness depends on how you temper the steel after hardening, but if I'm not mistaken 154CM is tougher than 440C. Atleast that is what I remember, but I could be wrong.

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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2021, 03:56:15 PM »
Turns out they are pretty much the same, 154CM has better edge retention only.
https://knifesteelnerds.com/2018/05/21/154cm-development-properties-legacy/

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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2021, 02:31:59 AM »
Good to know :tu: Thanks for finding that, RF :hatsoff:
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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2021, 09:50:18 AM »
:cheers:

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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2021, 12:17:25 PM »
 :like:
Thanks! :cheers:
I guess I should have bought a few replacement pairs back when they were 154CM. :think:
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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2021, 05:20:09 PM »
I find this really interesting actually.  I always wondered why they chose 154cm in the first place, but I'm not a metallurgist either.

Ironically, I've had my Rebar for 8 years and beat the hell out of it, and never once replaced the wire cutters.  There's a small ding from cutting a coat hanger or something years ago, but they still work perfectly.

Sean
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Re: Material of Rebar Phillips driver and wire-cutters?
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2021, 02:12:22 AM »

 

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