SwissChamp XXL

VICMAN · **on:** April 30, 2021, 03:17:12 PM

Here is a new SwissChamp model

https://www.swissarmy.com/us/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Swiss-Champ-XXL/p/1.6795.XXL?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=042921%20Swiss%20Champ%20XXL%20US-EN&_ke=eyJrbF9jb21wYW55X2lkIjogIlBpTGozRiIsICJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJkYXZlLnNpemVtb3JlQGdtYWlsLmNvbSJ9

Rich S · **Reply #1 on:** April 30, 2021, 03:30:16 PM

That's just too big to be practical. Easier to just carry a regular tool box.

Reinier · **Reply #2 on:** April 30, 2021, 03:39:16 PM

Bye bye XAVT

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,87063.0.html

Explorer · **Reply #3 on:** April 30, 2021, 04:49:39 PM

I bet once you get it in your pocket you don’t even notice it’s there

Reinier · **Reply #4 on:** April 30, 2021, 05:34:01 PM

The Rock carries one in the matching pouch.

SurgeUk · **Reply #5 on:** April 30, 2021, 07:00:52 PM

Quote from: Reinier on April 30, 2021, 05:34:01 PM

The Rock carries one in the matching pouch.

VICMAN · **Reply #6 on:** April 30, 2021, 07:13:30 PM

Quote from: Reinier on April 30, 2021, 05:34:01 PM

The Rock carries one in the matching pouch.

Explorer · **Reply #7 on:** April 30, 2021, 08:19:21 PM

Quote from: Reinier on April 30, 2021, 05:34:01 PM

The Rock carries one in the matching pouch.

Altis · **Reply #8 on:** April 30, 2021, 08:45:49 PM

Finally a SAK with two parcel hooks.

Looks like it replaces the XAVT with traditional scales and a few extra tools. I wonder if it's so they can stop producing the electronic scales.

Reinier · **Reply #9 on:** April 30, 2021, 08:54:21 PM

What extra tools? I really think it's a regular scaled XAVT. The other models with digital scales have been discontinued as well.
Has been discussed before on the forum.

Altis · **Reply #10 on:** April 30, 2021, 09:45:55 PM

Quote from: Reinier on April 30, 2021, 08:54:21 PM

What extra tools? I really think it's a regular scaled XAVT. The other models with digital scales have been discontinued as well.
Has been discussed before on the forum.

I'm probably mistaken. The duplicates of the back layer tools aren't shown in the XAVT photos but are probably on it. So it's just the scales that are different?

ulzhan · **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2021, 06:19:33 PM

This monster will be the next SAK which I want to buy...

FolderBeholder · **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2021, 06:22:01 PM

Quote from: ulzhan on May 01, 2021, 06:19:33 PM

This monster will be the next SAK which I want to buy...

Barry Rowland · **Reply #13 on:** May 01, 2021, 07:50:29 PM

too! I think I just found the gift I was looking for my son's Eagle award.

mikekoz · **Reply #14 on:** May 02, 2021, 05:00:50 AM

That looks really cool! Too much money, but cool!! It is amazing that years ago, I bought the XLT for about $80.00, and now I see it at nearly $240.00 on Amazon. The Swiss Champs are about $75.00 now, and I got mine for about $50.00. I also have a Swiss WorkChamp XL and they have skyrocketed in price.

guibur · **Reply #15 on:** May 02, 2021, 08:53:32 AM

Quote from: ulzhan on May 01, 2021, 06:19:33 PM

This monster will be the next SAK which I want to buy...

Andetto · **Reply #16 on:** May 02, 2021, 11:18:58 AM

Their site says 73 functions. When you got 2 mp hooks, does that count as 2 functions? I understand that one comes with a nail file, but still 2 same hooks.
They could have just left that slot empty. IMO that is dishonest.

Will there be a time when I need to use the hook, then I prefere the one with the file? I dont know.

Just checked again, 2 identical fine sd

.
I guess I wont be having this in my collection.
If a miracle happens and I got it as a gift, I will definitly modify it by removing those extras.

It would have sound more right if they say 71 function.

DavZell · **Reply #17 on:** May 03, 2021, 06:57:15 PM

Quote from: Altis on April 30, 2021, 08:45:49 PM

Finally a SAK with two parcel hooks.

(Image removed from quote.)

Looks like it replaces the XAVT with traditional scales and a few extra tools. I wonder if it's so they can stop producing the electronic scales.

Those hooks should have been in opposite directions so you could grab/hold a string or wire from two sides, minimizing jump-out possibilities. Imagine using it to slide down a Kevlar string unwound from the spool hidden in your custom scale and tossed, grappling hook style, to make your getaway!

Edit: is there a badge for ideas that should have been presented via a sketch on the folded-paper-bag cover on a 10th grade geometry text book? Just checking.

Altis · **Reply #18 on:** May 03, 2021, 07:49:46 PM

Quote from: DavZell on May 03, 2021, 06:57:15 PM

Those hooks should have been in opposite directions so you could grab/hold a string or wire from two sides, minimizing jump-out possibilities. Imagine using it to slide down a Kevlar string unwound from the spool hidden in your custom scale and tossed, grappling hook style, to make your getaway!

Edit: is there a badge for ideas that should have been presented via a sketch on the folded-paper-bag cover on a 10th grade geometry text book? Just checking.

These are advanced techniques

Max Stone · **Reply #19 on:** May 03, 2021, 08:49:29 PM

Quote from: Andetto on May 02, 2021, 11:18:58 AM

Their site says 73 functions. When you got 2 mp hooks, does that count as 2 functions? I understand that one comes with a nail file, but still 2 same hooks.
They could have just left that slot empty. IMO that is dishonest.

Will there be a time when I need to use the hook, then I prefere the one with the file? I dont know.

Just checked again, 2 identical fine sd .
I guess I wont be having this in my collection.
If a miracle happens and I got it as a gift, I will definitly modify it by removing those extras.

It would have sound more right if they say 71 function.

I did a count of my XAVT some time back, removing the duplicates and got to 70. Taking off the digital scale features, I get to a grand total of 63 which is a more realistic tool count...#64 would be paperweight

1.   Toothpick
2.   Tweezers
3.   Pressurized Ballpoint Pen
4.   Stainless Steel Pin
5.   Reamer/Punch/Sewing Awl
6.   Can Opener (standard & combo tool)
7.   Screwdriver 3mm (on Can Opener)
8.   Bottle Opener (standard & combo tool)
9.   Wire Stripper (x2)
10.   Screwdriver 6mm (on Bottle Opener)
11.   Key Ring
12.   Universal Wrench M3/M4/M5*
13.   Inline Phillips Screwdriver 1/2
14.   Magnifying Glass
15.   Pliers
16.   Wire Cutter
17.   Wire Crimper
18.   Fish Scaler
19.   Hook Disgorger
20.   Ruler (cm/inches)
21.   Multipurpose Hook (x2)
22.   Small Nail file (on one Multipurpose Hook)
23.   Large Blade w/Serrated Edge
24.   Inline Reamer/Punch*
25.   Wood Saw
26.   Scissors
27.   Screwdriver 2.5mm (x2)
28.   Pruning Blade
29.   Electrician's Blade
30.   Wire Scraper
31.   Pharmaceutical Spatula
32.   Watch Opener*
33.   Screwdriver 5mm (on Combo Tool)
34.   Nail File
35.   Nail Cleaner
36.   Metal Saw
37.   Metal File
38.   Chisel 4mm
39.   Large Blade
40.   Small Blade
41.   Bit Slotted 3mm*
42.   Bit Slotted 4mm*
43.   Bit Torx 6*
44.   Bit Torx 8*
45.   Bit Hex 1,2*
46.   Bit Hex 1,5*
47.   Bit Hex 2*
48.   Bit Hex 2,5*
49.   Bit Slotted 4mm
50.   Phillips Bit 2
51.   Phillips Bit 0 (Pozidrive)
52.   Phillips Bit 1 (Pozidrive)
53.   Torx Bit 10
54.   Torx Bit 15
55.   Hex Bit 4
56.   Torx Bit 8
57.   Bit Case (x2)
58.   4mm Bitwrench (x2)
59.   Female Hex drive 5mm for D-SUB Connectors (x2)
60.   Female Hex Drive 4mm for Bits (x2)
61.   LED
62.   Mini Screwdriver
63.   Corkscrew

*tools unique to the XAVT/XXL in the 91mm range

tosh · **Reply #20 on:** May 05, 2021, 06:59:31 AM

I’m usually all over big SAKs
Initially I was like, right, where do I buy! :

Then it occurred to me this will have the newer mag layer....I really dislike the new style acrylic mag layer. It find it looks cheap and flimsy. Much preferred the older grey version. Maybe Victorinox should have invested a little more thought in to it’s design and materials used.

It looks like the first thing that would snap!

Simon_Templar · **Reply #21 on:** May 05, 2021, 07:45:52 PM

Quote from: tosh on May 05, 2021, 06:59:31 AM

I’m usually all over big SAKs
Initially I was like, right, where do I buy! :
Then it occurred to me this will have the newer mag layer....I really dislike the new style acrylic mag layer. It find it looks cheap and flimsy. Much preferred the older grey version. Maybe Victorinox should have invested a little more thought in to it’s design and materials used.

It looks like the first thing that would snap!

Interesting read. I was under the impression you just hated those greedy sleazeballs at Victorinox and would never give them a dime after what they did to poor ol' Wenger.

tosh · **Reply #22 on:** May 05, 2021, 08:33:35 PM

Quote from: Simon_Templar on May 05, 2021, 07:45:52 PM

Interesting read. I was under the impression you just hated those greedy sleazeballs at Victorinox and would never give them a dime after what they did to poor ol' Wenger.

That too

I have the XLT, XAVT, XXLT, Workchamp XL
Plus the Wenger equivalents

I like big SAKs

But that new style mag layer is a abomination. It is what it looks.....cheap and nasty. Clearly it was a cost cutting measure. I own a couple of modern Explorers that have the newer mag layer and I HATE it, sorry.

Barry Rowland · **Reply #23 on:** May 05, 2021, 10:47:15 PM

I gave away all my new mag SAKs...gray frame all the way now!!

Max Stone · **Reply #24 on:** May 05, 2021, 10:51:31 PM

I have to agree. Even had a lens fall out of one, but gave me an excuse to make this...now if only there was an easier way to get it onto the pivot...