Internet Explorer is getting retired

dks · **on:** May 21, 2021, 12:55:16 PM

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/05/19/the-future-of-internet-explorer-on-windows-10-is-in-microsoft-edge/

"announcing that the future of Internet Explorer on Windows 10 is in Microsoft Edge. "

Etherealicer · **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2021, 01:16:05 PM

Well, support has ended November 2020, so this does not really come as a surprise. I say it is about time.

Edge is currently the best browser on the market. Doesn't make sense to have IE alive.

Echotech · **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2021, 01:24:14 PM

Until the end of this month the company I work for has relied in IE for Silverlight compatibility for some proprietary software we use, wouldn’t use it otherwise, had been a right royal PIA the last few years, thankfully the new system is now built. However been using IE for so many years I’m a touch nostalgic hearing this

dks · **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2021, 02:07:41 PM

Mainly Firefox these days..

pfrsantos · **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2021, 02:25:54 PM

Quote from: dks on May 21, 2021, 02:07:41 PM

Mainly Firefox these days..

+1

But with Awlways instead of Mainly.

Reinier · **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2021, 03:35:53 PM

I've been using Firefox exclusively (at least personally) since it was still named Phoenix. I think I remember installing Phoenix 0.4 in 2002 or so?

For work I use Chrome on my virtual desktop in Microsoft Azure. It's what we recommend our clients as well. But of course some of them still use Internet Explorer for some stupid reason. Probably because of one or two pieces of ancient software that rely on IE

Which basically means we need to keep our product compatible with that browser from the stone age.

Whoey · **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2021, 10:00:34 AM

They keep saying they will retire it, but I think it is tightly woven into the OS.

We have some apps and things at work that will only work through MSIE.

Personally I use chrome as much as possible, still contemplating switching to Vivaldi which seems to be a much better version of chrome (what chrome used to be like)

Barely touched firefox in ages.

Chako · **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2021, 12:40:05 PM

Likewise. Everything at work mostly revolves around Google and Chrome. Been forced to use Microsoft Teams for daily class lessons. What a

buggy

piece of

software that is! The more I use, the less I like, but it is what the School Board has directed us to use.

As for Edge, I will not use it considering Microsoft tried real hard to force you to use it whenever a clean install of the OS is needed.

Reinier · **Reply #8 on:** May 27, 2021, 07:16:11 PM

Quote from: Reinier on May 21, 2021, 03:35:53 PM

I've been using Firefox exclusively (at least personally) since it was still named Phoenix. I think I remember installing Phoenix 0.4 in 2002 or so?

For work I use Chrome on my virtual desktop in Microsoft Azure. It's what we recommend our clients as well. But of course some of them still use Internet Explorer for some stupid reason. Probably because of one or two pieces of ancient software that rely on IE
Which basically means we need to keep our product compatible with that browser from the stone age.

Oh and on my Android phones I've almost always used Chrome. But this change has forced me to reconsider: https://piunikaweb.com/2021/05/27/want-to-disable-tab-groups-grid-view-in-chrome-on-android-heres-how-to-do-so/

Mechanickal · **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2021, 08:14:22 PM

Quote from: Reinier on May 27, 2021, 07:16:11 PM

Oh and on my Android phones I've almost always used Chrome. But this change has forced me to reconsider: https://piunikaweb.com/2021/05/27/want-to-disable-tab-groups-grid-view-in-chrome-on-android-heres-how-to-do-so/

It made me Switch to "Brave"

I disabled Brave's form of advertising all together (look it up if you don't know it) which made it a tracker/ad/google blocking browser that works just like the older Chrome.
Highly customizable settings to take some privacy into your own hands.

Reinier · **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2021, 08:20:13 PM

Thanks for the suggestion

Jothra · **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2021, 07:37:21 AM

For years and years, HTML and CSS coding involved just constant goofy kludges to make sure websites that worked in every other major browser also worked in IE. Oh man, the style sheet workarounds alone.

Don Pablo · **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2021, 10:21:34 AM

Every webcoder sighed in relief...

Etherealicer · **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2021, 11:42:26 AM

Quote from: Jothra on May 28, 2021, 07:37:21 AM

For years and years, HTML and CSS coding involved just constant goofy kludges to make sure websites that worked in every other major browser also worked in IE. Oh man, the style sheet workarounds alone.

Well, we do that now for Safari

Jothra · **Reply #14 on:** May 29, 2021, 08:10:56 AM

Quote from: Etherealicer on May 28, 2021, 11:42:26 AM

Well, we do that now for Safari

That's too bad. Safari used to be easy.

Reinier · **Reply #15 on:** May 29, 2021, 08:40:08 AM

Trying Firefox Mobile again. The beta threw an error even before I started using it

A problem I had years ago was font sizes changing (seemingly) at random. Looks like that issue is still there.

Reinier · **Reply #16 on:** May 29, 2021, 08:41:21 AM

Aaaaaaand, more bugs

DavisNikolov · **Reply #17 on:** May 29, 2021, 09:15:29 AM

Quote from: Reinier on May 21, 2021, 03:35:53 PM

.......... But of course some of them still use Internet Explorer for some stupid reason. Probably because of one or two pieces of ancient software that rely on IE
...........

Well, in order to submit documents online via electronic signature to our tax agency you have to use the IE. At least that was the case few years ago when I was last present while my accountant was submitting some documents. She said, and then showed to my shocked being, that trying to do it with any other browser just didn't work - you couldn't go past the authorization. I really hope and in the same time highly doubt that they will make some changes before the complete drop of that system causes huge problems for both businesses and government agencies.

Don Pablo · **Reply #18 on:** May 31, 2021, 11:21:27 PM

Reminds me of Adobe flash player's automatic forced retirement catching a Chinese railroad company by surprise. Chaos ensued until they could find an older version to install.

Syncop8r · **Reply #19 on:** June 01, 2021, 03:56:44 AM

I had Firefox on my phone but it started crashing, which could be due to the age of my phone, so I now use DuckDuckGo's browser.

I have used Firefox on PC for many years without any issues - what issues do others have with it?

Syncop8r · **Reply #20 on:** June 01, 2021, 03:57:58 AM

Quote from: Don Pablo on May 31, 2021, 11:21:27 PM

Reminds me of Adobe flash player's automatic forced retirement catching a Chinese railroad company by surprise. Chaos ensued until they could find an older version to install.

Did it completely railroad their operation?

Reinier · **Reply #21 on:** June 01, 2021, 06:35:17 AM

Quote from: Syncop8r on June 01, 2021, 03:57:58 AM

Did it completely railroad their operation?

But they are on the right track now.

Reinier · **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2021, 06:40:30 AM

Quote from: Syncop8r on June 01, 2021, 03:56:44 AM

I have used Firefox on PC for many years without any issues - what issues do others have with it?

None at all

dks · **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2021, 10:15:26 AM

Quote from: Syncop8r on June 01, 2021, 03:56:44 AM

I have used Firefox on PC for many years without any issues - what issues do others have with it?

Sometimes certain websites will require IE or Chrome for access

Reinier · **Reply #24 on:** June 08, 2021, 12:16:08 PM

Quote from: Reinier on June 01, 2021, 06:40:30 AM

None at all

BUT NOW I DO!!!

The stupid, stupid, STUPID new GUI won't allow tabs to be moved around by dragging them to a different location. I used to do that 42 million times a day!