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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #30 on: July 07, 2021, 07:51:22 AM
Fantastic thread Adam  :like: :hatsoff:

I reckon the LM CS3 makes a great compliment to MT's like the Rebar or Alox SAK's as a small, quick way of adding scissors & corkscrew

Nothing like as thorough as your comparison, but I did do a SAK scissors size comparison (as well as blades and saws) a while a back you might find interesting

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,86355.msg2197772.html#msg2197772

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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #31 on: July 07, 2021, 11:53:01 AM
Fantastic thread Adam  :like: :hatsoff:

I reckon the LM CS3 makes a great compliment to MT's like the Rebar or Alox SAK's as a small, quick way of adding scissors & corkscrew

Nothing like as thorough as your comparison, but I did do a SAK scissors size comparison (as well as blades and saws) a while a back you might find interesting

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,86355.msg2197772.html#msg2197772

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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #32 on: July 07, 2021, 01:16:07 PM
Thanks Adam :tu:


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #33 on: July 08, 2021, 03:09:27 AM
SOG Baton Q1



Thread - 3
Mason cord - 3
Jute - 3
550 Paracord - 3
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 3
0.065" trimmer string - 3
10 lb braided fishing line - 2
Denim - 3
Cloth - 3
Tissue - 3
Felt - 3
Cardboard - 3
Plastic bag - 3
Padded envelope - 3
Webbing - 3
Zip tie - 3
Nylon rope - 2.5
Stranded copper wire - 3
18 awg copper wire - 3
Plastic container - 3
Rubber ball - 3
Leather belt - 3
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 2.5
Ergonomics - 2

Total - 69/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0


Excellent cutting scissors! However, the handles are problematic. When I held the tool with the shorter grey handle under my thumb, there was a tendency for the handle to slide towards the pivot. When I held the tool with the longer black handle under my thumb, the tool was sort of pinchy. It may work better in someone else's hand, but I found that the handles impeded my use of the scissors to some degree.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2021, 01:27:31 AM by SteveC »


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #34 on: August 02, 2021, 02:46:22 AM
More great reviewing :woohoo: :like:


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #35 on: September 14, 2021, 01:19:06 PM
nicely done!


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #36 on: November 21, 2021, 06:05:21 PM
PST II (unmodded)




Thread - 3
Mason cord - 2.5
Jute - 3
550 Paracord - 2
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 3
0.065" trimmer string - 2.5
10 lb braided fishing line - 2
Denim - 2.5
Cloth - 3
Tissue - 3
Felt - 2.5
Cardboard - 3
Plastic bag - 3
Padded envelope - 3
Webbing - 2
Zip tie - 2.5
Nylon rope - 1.5
Stranded copper wire - 3
18 awg copper wire - 2.5
Plastic container - 3
Rubber ball - 3
Leather belt - 0
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 3
Ergonomics - 2.5

Total - 61/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0


I tested the scissors unmodified, which meant the handles tended to collapse when cutting tougher materials. Overall, they are okay scissors. But the newer scissors that appeared with the Zytel MTs and the 2nd Gen Wave are better.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #37 on: November 21, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Wenger EvoGrip 14 (85 mm)



Thread - 3
Mason cord - 3
Jute - 2
550 Paracord - 1.5
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 3
0.065" trimmer string - 2
10 lb braided fishing line - 2.5
Denim - 2
Cloth - 3
Tissue - 3
Felt - 3
Cardboard - 3
Plastic bag - 2.5
Padded envelope - 3
Webbing - 2
Zip tie - 3
Nylon rope - 2
Stranded copper wire - 3
18 awg copper wire - 2
Plastic container - 2.5
Rubber ball - 2.5
Leather belt - 0
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 3
Ergonomics - 2

Total - 58.5/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0


Thick, pliable materials gave it trouble. Did not cut well across part of the edges in my testing. However, I did EDC this SAK during the Delemont Challenge and had no complaints about the scissors' cutting ability.
Let me state, as noted by ReamerPunch, Wenger scissors are annoying in that as you push on one handle the other handle moves also. Victorinox scissors do not do this.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #38 on: November 21, 2021, 07:40:31 PM
Victorinox Classic SD (58 mm)



Thread - 3
Mason cord - 2
Jute - 3
550 Paracord - 2
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 3
0.065" trimmer string - 2
10 lb braided fishing line - 3
Denim - 2.5
Cloth - 3
Tissue - 3
Felt - 3
Cardboard - 3
Plastic bag - 3
Padded envelope - 3
Webbing - 2.5
Zip tie - 3
Nylon rope - 1.5
Stranded copper wire - 3
18 awg copper wire - 2
Plastic container - 2
Rubber ball - 3
Leather belt - 0
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 3
Ergonomics - 3

Total - 61.5/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0


The Victorinox 58 mm scissors are great scissors that are only limited by their size. Works great with finer, smaller materials.



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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #39 on: November 21, 2021, 07:48:02 PM
AceCamp 11 in 1



Thread - 1.5
Mason cord - 0
Jute - 0
550 Paracord - 0
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 1.5
0.065" trimmer string - 1
10 lb braided fishing line - 0
Denim - 0
Cloth - 0
Tissue - 0.5
Felt - 0
Cardboard - 2
Plastic bag - 0
Padded envelope - 0
Webbing - 0
Zip tie - 1
Nylon rope - 0
Stranded copper wire - 0
18 awg copper wire - 0
Plastic container - 1.5
Rubber ball - 0
Leather belt - 0
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 2
Ergonomics - 1

Total - 12/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0


I should have burned my $10 instead of buying this smurf.



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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #40 on: November 21, 2021, 10:12:59 PM
Gerber Solstice



Thread - 2
Mason cord - 2
Jute - 2
550 Paracord - 1.5
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 3
0.065" trimmer string - 3
10 lb braided fishing line - 2
Denim - 1.5
Cloth - 1.5
Tissue - 3
Felt - 0
Cardboard - 3
Plastic bag - 1.5
Padded envelope - 3
Webbing - 1
Zip tie - 3
Nylon rope - 2
Stranded copper wire - 3
18 awg copper wire - 3
Plastic container - 3
Rubber ball - 3
Leather belt - 3
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 3
Ergonomics - 2.5

Total - 55.5/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0


The Solstice did not cut well, and the drivers tended to bore into my palm. But I was to cut with power when needed.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #41 on: November 21, 2021, 10:21:59 PM
Leatherman Style CS



Thread - 3
Mason cord - 2.5
Jute - 2.5
550 Paracord - 2.5
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 3
0.065" trimmer string - 3
10 lb braided fishing line - 3
Denim - 2
Cloth - 2
Tissue - 2.5
Felt - 2
Cardboard - 3
Plastic bag - 3
Padded envelope - 2.5
Webbing - 2.5
Zip tie - 3
Nylon rope - 2
Stranded copper wire - 3
18 awg copper wire - 3
Plastic container - 3
Rubber ball - 3
Leather belt - 2
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 3
Ergonomics - 2.5

Total - 63.5.5/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0


The Style CS is somewhat edgy, pointy in hand. The edges are sharp, but fully meet only near the tips. This flaw prevented it from cutting fabrics and tissue well.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #42 on: November 21, 2021, 10:24:23 PM
The next update will include the test results for the following MTs:

Leatherman Surge (original)
Leatherman Wave (original)
Leatherman Blast/Wave
Ozark Trail/Mossy Oak/Bibury Multiforce
Dewalt MT16
Victorinox SwissTool Spirit
Bibury 10 in 1 Pocket Tool
Skagele/etc... 18 in 1
Bercol/Atech/etc… 15 (or 13) in 1
Suspension NXT
Nextool Flagship Pro


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #43 on: November 22, 2021, 02:29:37 AM
Great stuff Adam :tu: :hatsoff:


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #44 on: November 22, 2021, 02:51:39 AM
Thanks Echo  :cheers:


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #45 on: November 24, 2021, 07:52:05 PM
AceCamp 11 in 1

I should have burned my $10 instead of buying this smurf.
:rofl: Makes me wonder how smurfty the rest of that "tool" is.

Thanks for doing this. It has been a most interesting read.
USN 2000-2006

One to four layers of SAK is (usually) best for me.

If you have absolutely nothing better to do, my YouTube channel is awlways an option:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCWA0VjH6v3WS6gvLkPGk9KA/


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #46 on: December 05, 2021, 03:06:07 AM
Great stuff, and a wonderful array of tools. :like:
I really like the 58mm Vic scissors, they're amazing for their tiny size.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #47 on: December 05, 2021, 03:09:45 AM
Adam, will we see any Roxon tools here? They should perform well, judging from what I've tested so far.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #48 on: December 05, 2021, 04:44:40 AM
Thanks RP  :cheers:

I have a Roxon S802 Phantom that I will be testing.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #49 on: December 05, 2021, 07:19:00 AM
Looking forward to it.  :popcorn:


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #50 on: December 19, 2021, 07:13:00 PM
Roxon S802 Phantom







Thread - 3
Mason cord - 3
Jute - 3
550 Paracord - 3
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 3
0.065" trimmer string - 3
10 lb braided fishing line - 3
Denim - 3
Cloth - 3
Tissue - 3
Felt - 3
Cardboard - 3
Plastic bag - 3
Padded envelope - 3
Webbing - 3
Zip tie - 3
Nylon rope - 3
Stranded copper wire - 3
18 awg copper wire - 3
Plastic container - 3
Rubber ball - 3
Leather belt - 3
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 3
Ergonomics - 1.5

Total - 70.5.5/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0

Great cutting scissors! However, the MT is sorta heavy and bulky. The scissor handle does not have rolled edges, making them uncomfortable in hand when cutting tougher materials. Finally, the handle has to be unlocked to deploy the scissors. I have no problem with that in theory, but my MT does to easily unlock, making scissors deployment a bit difficult at times.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #51 on: December 19, 2021, 09:15:58 PM
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Love it! They did a great job with those. Sure, the tool as a whole is a bit heavy and bulky, but the scissors are phenomenal!
Removable scissors would make it a beast! :ahhh


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #52 on: December 22, 2021, 04:24:25 PM
What a great job this thread is.  Well done and thank you.   :hatsoff:
Esse Quam Videri


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #53 on: December 23, 2021, 03:13:36 AM
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Love it! They did a great job with those. Sure, the tool as a whole is a bit heavy and bulky, but the scissors are phenomenal!
Removable scissors would make it a beast! :ahhh

Thanks!

They are definitely the best I have tried. Even better than the NexTool Flagship Pro's scissors, which are great except for a small section in the middle of the scissors that does not cut well. But the NexTool fits better in my hand, and the handle has rounded edges, which hurts the Roxon in comparison.

Now, if the Roxon scissors had rounded edges and were detachable, they would be very beastly  :iagree:


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #54 on: December 23, 2021, 03:16:25 AM
What a great job this thread is.  Well done and thank you.   :hatsoff:

Thank you, Aloha  :hatsoff:

I have plenty more reviews to write, and even more scissora to test.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #55 on: December 24, 2021, 11:18:56 PM
Victorinox SwissTool Spirit



Thread - 3
Mason cord - 3
Jute - 3
550 Paracord - 2.5
4 lb monofilament fishing line - 3
0.065" trimmer string - 3
10 lb braided fishing line - 3
Denim - 3
Cloth - 3
Tissue - 3
Felt - 3
Cardboard - 3
Plastic bag - 3
Padded envelope - 3
Webbing - 3
Zip tie - 3
Nylon rope - 2.5
Stranded copper wire - 3
18 awg copper wire - 3
Plastic container - 3
Rubber ball - 3
Leather belt - 0
Cutting out simple pattern on paper - 3
Ergonomics - 3

Total - 68/72

Scoring:
Effectively cuts material with minimal effort = 3
Requires an extra snip or some extra effort = 2.5
Will cut material, but requires holding material taunt or finding sweet spot on scissors = 2
Scissors tends to gnaw through material rather than cut cleanly - 1.5
Will cut material roughly and with great effort - 1
May be able to cut material, but not worth the effort - 0.5
Can not cut material - 0

Excellent cutting scissors. The only flaw I found during these tests is that the scissors do not open very wide, which prevented them from making any headway with the leather belt. Otherwise, the scissors are the quality that you would expect from Victorinox.


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #56 on: January 16, 2022, 02:04:21 AM
More great testing, Adam :tu: :like: :like:


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #57 on: January 16, 2022, 02:51:02 AM
Thanks Adam, was literally just thinking about the spirit scissors yesterday  :like: :hatsoff:


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #58 on: January 23, 2022, 06:19:53 PM
I have been too lazy to add more results/reviews to this thread late  :facepalm:

But I have created a Google spreadsheet with the results I have accumulated so far:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u8XPycm2IiTqmgmZ4iUfkQTCv0uBXPVBfmZi_YVaclE/edit?usp=sharing


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Re: MT scissors comparison
Reply #59 on: August 04, 2022, 02:20:00 PM
How did I miss this thread?   ???    :think:

Thanks so much for all your hard work and posting the results - As you say back to the good old days of Lynn LeFey's tests

A few surprises for me:
Lots of folk rave about the Micra - But it did not fare too well
I really like the PST II scisssors and they also did not do too well.
I bought an Armbar and for me the scissors were about the worst I have experienced - But it scored OK here.
Also surprised the Wenger scissors did not do so well - I do find the Vic's better - But the Wenger's are good too
NB. My opinions are just gut feel and impressions     >:D    No where near the level of your testing!!     :angel:

And lots of tools here I have never heard of     :o    - And some with amazing scissors   8)   

Great job - And thanks - Once again     :tu:
« Last Edit: August 04, 2022, 02:25:53 PM by Huntsman »


 

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