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Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
on: August 23, 2021, 12:46:56 PM
Hi folks,

been through a lot of knives since Ive been bitten by the bug. Tacticals, folders and fixed, heavy knifes and stuff.
But been boiling down my needs to a few basics since the chances of being lost in the canadian wildernes with my gear are alost zero and a ESEE4 is a bit large for most holiday trips with the family.  :facepalm: :whistle:

So here are my points:
- small fixed blade, about 10cm, 20cm overall (4inch / 8 inch overall). bladelength
- thin profile, blade no more than 3mm thick, full flat grind would be a big plus. No Scandis.
- stainless (will see fishing and foodprep and I cant trust my wife with carbon blades...  :twak: ) Dont care about which steel, a decent medium alloyed like 12C26 up to 14C28N or similar would be great.
- quality sheath, both leather and kydex are ok.
- handle material somewhat water resistant and easy to clean (so no fishy smell like my ESEEs have due to the handle material). No plastic aka Mora.
- should have some decend grip and/or finger protection, knives tend to be slimy when cleaning fish.
- Available here in europe / germany.

Boiled down: I need a lightweight, easy to carry, easy to clean, non heavy duty holiday and fishing knive that does a lot of foodprep.

Price tag max. 150 Euros.

Been looking for some options.
- Buck 102 Woodsman: Would have bought one already, but some rumors about not so good fit in the sheath nowadays prevent me from insta buying.
- Grohmann Troud and Bird. Ticks almost all boxes,havent found a full flat grind one in europe yet.

Other Ideas?

Michael
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #1 on: August 23, 2021, 01:08:10 PM
Brisa Necker with full flat grind or Fällkniven WM1 are nice little fixed blades. The WM1 is convex though.

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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #2 on: August 23, 2021, 01:16:01 PM
Quote from: RF52 on August 23, 2021, 01:08:10 PM
Brisa Necker with full flat grind or Fällkniven WM1 are nice little fixed blades. The WM1 is convex though.

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To behonest I already own both.  :whistle:
Blades could be a bit longer, I should change my list to a "4inch / 10cm" blade.
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #3 on: August 23, 2021, 01:20:51 PM
I'll try and think of some more suggestions then :tu:

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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #4 on: August 23, 2021, 03:55:54 PM
One that come to mind was Casstrome #10.  It is a wood handle but injected with acrylic. 
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #5 on: August 23, 2021, 04:26:40 PM
First think that came to mind was this:



Pretty decent and durable, less than €20. Since you said "no scandi" I guess these are out, though...

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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #6 on: August 23, 2021, 08:24:52 PM
What about a Eka fishblade?
Sandvik 12C27 steel. It's not quite a fixed blade, more like Eka's swingblade, but it's a thin filet blade that I think would do very good with fishing tasks and food prep. And really inexpensive.

Edit: added link.

https://www.lamnia.com/sv/p/4331/knivar/eka-fishblade-fiskekniv-gr%C3%B6n
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #7 on: August 24, 2021, 02:28:46 AM
Russia sends aide!




$79 Euro https://kizlyar-europe.com/hunting-knives-779/sterkh-1



I bought a Kizlyar Sterkh-1from eBay about 15 years ago and I'm still impressed with it's quality.

Mine is a more tacticool version, also in french Z50 like the current wooden handle ones. It's an incredibly light knife. I still can get over how slim it is and am confident it would never let me down.
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #8 on: August 24, 2021, 02:35:12 AM
Probably should add the Sterkh is a little large if going off your specs but Kizlyar europe show few knives with similar blade profiles in smaller packages with the same blade thickness.



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Reply #9 on: August 24, 2021, 12:44:37 PM
Quote from: Aloha on August 23, 2021, 03:55:54 PM
One that come to mind was Casstrome #10.  It is a wood handle but injected with acrylic.
And it comes with Scandi or full flat grind :tu:

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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #10 on: August 25, 2021, 06:00:42 PM
Did a quick search for the OP, don't know whether they are all available in Germany, but I hope so:

Spyderco Bill Moran 3-7/8" VG10 Steel Drop Point Blade, FRN Handles   ~115usd
Bestech Knives Ostap Hel Hedron Fixed Blade Knife 3.78" D2   ~100usd
Mora of Sweden Fishing Comfort Fillet 090 Fixed 3.5" Stainless Steel Blade  ~19usd(I know you said no Mora, but this is really got me curious, really thin grind)
Brisa Trapper 95 hunting knife, N690 Flat Ground  ~140usd  (I think this is a pretty strong contender)
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #11 on: August 25, 2021, 08:55:08 PM
There is also the Brisa Hiker 95.
Flat grind, 12C27 stainless steel and 100mm cutting edge.

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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #12 on: September 04, 2021, 08:27:53 PM
The CRKT Hunt'N Fisch is, in my opinion, close to perfection for an EDC carry but it only has a 3 inch (7.62cm) blade. https://www.crkt.com/hunt-n-fisch.html
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #13 on: September 05, 2021, 12:34:33 AM
Buck 102

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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #14 on: September 06, 2021, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: Nix on September 05, 2021, 12:34:33 AM
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Couldn't agree more  :tu:
The sheath fits well, is well made, no rattle and a very secure closure.
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #15 on: September 15, 2021, 11:51:02 AM
Production has been delayed but when the ESEE CR 3.0 comes out it is supposed to be in S35vn.
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #16 on: September 21, 2021, 08:52:34 AM
Update:

Been on vacation for a few days, so late answer by myself.
In the meantime I caught a BRKT Bird and Troud in Elmax with Ironwood handles.
Hit all boxes and I couldnt resist.
(all the others suggested here are still on my list, will see how the BRKT performs....)


Quote from: Santos on September 15, 2021, 11:51:02 AM
Production has been delayed but when the ESEE CR 3.0 comes out it is supposed to be in S35vn.
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looks nice, have seen these knives before but opt them out due to 1095.
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #17 on: September 21, 2021, 10:38:44 AM
Glad you found your dream knife. :tu:

I wanted to suggest the Canadian belt knife, but now I'm too late. :) It does come with the flat ground option.

Just for reference if anyone later will be looking for the same.

https://grohmannknives.com/index.php/products/outdoor/1-original-design-182-detail
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #18 on: September 21, 2021, 10:59:37 AM
Quote from: enki_ck on September 21, 2021, 10:38:44 AM
Glad you found your dream knife. :tu:

I wanted to suggest the Canadian belt knife, but now I'm too late. :) It does come with the flat ground option.

Just for reference if anyone later will be looking for the same.

https://grohmannknives.com/index.php/products/outdoor/1-original-design-182-detail
Thanks, ive mentioned grohmann knives in my opening post, but the full sized ones are a but overkill for my taste, and the smaller are not available in flat ground here in germany at the moment.

And regarding the dream knife: once you got bitten by the bug, there is no dream knife. Just another step down the rabbit hole.  :facepalm:
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Re: Looking for a small Fixed for (Bird Trout style?)
Reply #19 on: September 22, 2021, 02:07:25 AM
Cant wait to hear your thoughts once you get it and use it for a while. 
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