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LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
on: November 27, 2021, 07:28:43 PM
Good evening, I hope you're awl well  :tu:

A quick question  :rofl: I have about 36 hours to decide (black friday 25% off etc  :ahhh)

Do I bite the bullet on a LM Free T4 or P4  :dunno:

I'm in the UK so the locking blade causes problems regardless but is the extra cost (roughly double £55 vs £125 ) worth the pliers etc  :think:

I know getting a consensus here is like herding cats but your collective experience is appreciated  :pok:

NB: For US cousins those are the correct UK prices (including the 25% discount  ::) )

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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #1 on: November 27, 2021, 08:36:20 PM
A friend of mine has the t4. Though pretty handy I find it too thick for the overall size of it and length of blade. And don't feel it comfortable in pocket. It might need some "getting used to", I've just played with it for half an hour  :dunno:
 Haven't seen p4 in person yet and have heard/red a lot of opinions from "piece of smurf" to "the best ever". But I love how all the tools are accessible without opening the tool, kind of like the Swiss Tools but also has OHO blades. So I have decided I will get one in the future.   

P.S. Just checked the GBP to BGN rate - If we had such deals on it now - I'd take the P4 right away. Currently the official dealer for here sells it at about 160 GBP.
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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #2 on: November 27, 2021, 09:09:14 PM
I really like my P4.
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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #3 on: November 27, 2021, 09:17:47 PM
Quote from: DavisNikolov on November 27, 2021, 08:36:20 PM
A friend of mine has the t4. Though pretty handy I find it too thick for the overall size of it and length of blade. And don't feel it comfortable in pocket. It might need some "getting used to", I've just played with it for half an hour  :dunno:
 Haven't seen p4 in person yet and have heard/red a lot of opinions from "piece of smurf" to "the best ever". But I love how all the tools are accessible without opening the tool, kind of like the Swiss Tools but also has OHO blades. So I have decided I will get one in the future.   

P.S. Just checked the GBP to BGN rate - If we had such deals on it now - I'd take the P4 right away. Currently the official dealer for here sells it at about 160 GBP.

Thanks for your views and comparison  :tu:

Quote from: Jothra on November 27, 2021, 09:09:14 PM
I really like my P4.

I'm being swayed by this... :think: :tu:
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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #4 on: November 27, 2021, 10:26:23 PM
I'd suggest to find a place where you can try them out. The Free series seems to receive all sorts of reviews and opinions.

I did just that and didn't like the one-hand opening magnet sort of tool deployment, the implements, or the rubber cushions that hold the pliers arms in place.
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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #5 on: November 27, 2021, 11:36:27 PM
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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #6 on: November 28, 2021, 12:01:31 AM
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I'd suggest to find a place where you can try them out.
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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #7 on: November 28, 2021, 12:38:45 AM
Thanks awl.

Trying out is not an option because;

1) I only have 36 hours!

2) I live in London and there are no retail outlets. Period.

3) Tomorrow is Sunday.

4) I only have 36 hours!

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Reply #8 on: November 28, 2021, 08:48:39 AM
I have a T4 and I was very pleasantly surprised by it, it makes its way into my pocket fairly often and one handed scissors are incredibly handy.

I can only vote for what I know, if you're comfortable with spending the other half of that for a P4, I could be super helpful and suggest you get the T4 and something else  :pok:
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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #9 on: November 28, 2021, 09:16:46 AM
Quote from: GearedForwards on November 28, 2021, 08:48:39 AM
I have a T4 and I was very pleasantly surprised by it, it makes its way into my pocket fairly often and one handed scissors are incredibly handy.

I can only vote for what I know, if you're comfortable with spending the other half of that for a P4, I could be super helpful and suggest you get the T4 and something else  :pok:

 :iagree:

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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #10 on: November 28, 2021, 07:17:47 PM
Well, even if you leave the funky pliers aside, the P4 has a saw and a can opener, which I personally regard as pretty essential. They're two of my most frequently (almost daily) used tools on any MT or SAK.
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Reply #11 on: November 28, 2021, 07:20:36 PM
Thanks to you awl for your insights into how I should spend my hard earned  :pok: :salute:

I have ordered the T4 as I still have my GOAT arriving at some point  :dunno: and currently Xmas is looking expensive (what a shocker  :dwts:)

I'll report back and share my views in the fullness of time  :think:

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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #12 on: November 28, 2021, 07:25:06 PM
Quote from: Tasky on November 28, 2021, 07:17:47 PM
Well, even if you leave the funky pliers aside, the P4 has a saw and a can opener, which I personally regard as pretty essential. They're two of my most frequently (almost daily) used tools on any MT or SAK.

Just "saw" your reply  :facepalm: I don't use a can opener (well not for cans anyway  ::)) and I live in a urban town centre so not much call for the other either  :think:
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Re: LM Free P4 vs T4 (UK Prices)
Reply #13 on: November 28, 2021, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: SurgeUk on November 28, 2021, 07:20:36 PM
Thanks to you awl for your insights into how I should spend my hard earned  :pok: :salute:

I have ordered the T4 as I still have my GOAT arriving at some point  :dunno: and currently Xmas is looking expensive (what a shocker  :dwts:)

I'll report back and share my views in the fullness of time  :think:

Once again, cheers awl  :tu: :cheers:

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