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The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.

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The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
on: January 15, 2022, 12:20:19 PM
I have this old, beat up Rover hanging around (like a Rally, but with a flathead combo tool rather than Phillips). It's a "Pepcid" pharmaceutical promotional piece, but for some reason, the white Cellidor scales have become deformed in a way I've never seen happen with any Victorinox knife. Anyway, today I popped the scales off of it (I've never before done this to a knife), and I have been admiring the way the 58 mm tools and backsprings go together. It's really a brilliant design. The back springs are really only attached at the end opposite the tool joint, and the springs are curved so that the fulcrum ends up being the contact point between the backsprings on opposite sides. How ingenious! I guess the Money Clip uses this design, as well.
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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #1 on: January 15, 2022, 01:27:01 PM
It is indeed brilliant.

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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #2 on: January 15, 2022, 02:28:42 PM
Yes, the Money Clip, Executive and other 74mm models also use the 'floating springs' design.
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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #3 on: January 15, 2022, 03:39:59 PM
Especially considering the age of the design!
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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #4 on: January 15, 2022, 06:42:59 PM
Quote from: Barry Rowland on January 15, 2022, 03:39:59 PM
Especially considering the age of the design!

Does the age of the Swiss design go back as far as the lobster pattern gentleman knives from Sheffield in the 1800's, that had scissors, nail files, and other tools?
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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #5 on: January 15, 2022, 06:54:58 PM
It nice to see someone gaining the appreciation for how things are designed, and yes, impressive considering how old the design is.

Though I still appreciate the way the floating spring is used in officer knives and with 3 tools per layer…just a bit more. I mean, it’s a single spring that works three tools and isn’t even fixed to the knife.
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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #6 on: January 15, 2022, 09:40:33 PM
Quote from: fuyume on January 15, 2022, 12:20:19 PM
It's really a brilliant design.
:iagree:

You also have piqued my curiosity. Some of those Pepcid 58mm models came with the emergency (Wharncliffe) blade. Is yours one of them?
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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #7 on: January 16, 2022, 12:36:06 AM
Quote from: Farmer X on January 15, 2022, 09:40:33 PM
:iagree:

You also have piqued my curiosity. Some of those Pepcid 58mm models came with the emergency (Wharncliffe) blade. Is yours one of them?

My recollection is: No. Not the white ones.

Pretty sure the teal ones with white lettering do. I have a few of each, but they’re all over the place between the collection and the fodder boxes and receiving/unprocessed.
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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #8 on: January 16, 2022, 07:04:15 PM
That sounds about right. I feel the Rover with a Wharncliffe blade would supplement a Pioneer X or Farmer X quite nicely. Most likely I'd be after the teal (I believe Victorinox called that color "Retro Green") one.
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Re: The 58 mm knife design is brilliant.
Reply #9 on: January 20, 2022, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: Farmer X on January 15, 2022, 09:40:33 PM
:iagree:

You also have piqued my curiosity. Some of those Pepcid 58mm models came with the emergency (Wharncliffe) blade. Is yours one of them?

No, mine has the standard pen blade.
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