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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #180 on: June 17, 2022, 12:15:33 AM
Hi Team,

Just echoing Aloha's comments and mine on the previous page - Please can we stop discussing the details of the price and maufacturing costs

I think we all agree that it is very expensive
I think we all know it's probably a one off and has had significant research and investment to produce
I think we all also know that we don't know the precise details of Victorinox's cost and recommended retail price calculations- Even Ulli, who was somewhat involved in the development of the replica, says he does not know this, although has provided some insight into the development process!!   :tu:
And as someone did point out earlier - Don't forget the retail mark up - this is often in the region of 50% 
And breaking my own rule! If this is the case why is the markup the same on expemsive and less costly items - when the on-costs to the retailer must be the same ie Same costs to store and ship a Spartan as an 1987 replica - But let's not go there either!!   :)   :think:

Also want to remind you of our unwritten rule at MTo - And that is to only focus on the tools, functions fetaures and maybe sometimes price of our multitools !!  But never to get personal, or critical of any members, in our discussions. We all have some knowledge and opinions - Let's just share them openly, and if we disagree we can do that .... but objectively, and never personally.
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #181 on: June 17, 2022, 12:51:56 AM
Personally, although it's not for me, I'm delighted that Vic has reproduced the original Offiziersmesser, & that people who really want it can enjoy it. It is a beautiful knife, beautifully presented, and I'm happy for those who have or will have one.

The price is fair IMO. Where else are you going to choose from nearly 10,000 perfect examples of an Offiziersmesser? If the cost is an impediment to purchase one can always find a way to buy it. Increase working hours, overdraft, personal loan, add it to the mortgage, whatever.  :)

PS: I wondered if Ulli had made the excellent video in #152!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #182 on: June 17, 2022, 06:43:55 AM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on June 16, 2022, 09:04:47 PM
She arrived! #1597

FB, that's awesome!  I did not know how much thought process was involved with this piece, until I saw Ulli's video, and hope you will like yours too!
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #183 on: June 17, 2022, 11:25:56 PM
IMHO there was a very important, plain reason Why Vic made this knife: Because they love making knives!  :climber:
Plus wanted to celebrate this 125th anniversary with something special. I guess they just had big pleasure in developing and producing it. And yes, they want to earn some money also.
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #184 on: June 27, 2022, 05:42:59 PM
An update. It has cleared British customs today and I will hopefully receive it in the next couple of days.

The premium over British retail will be about £65. £20 down to me, the extra cost of shipping from Italy rather than domestic. £45 plus say 1 week delay, the Brexit premium. There is in fact duty now 9%. So, £30 duty plus £13 customs clearance costs or thereabouts.



Quote from: SAKTaschenmesser on June 15, 2022, 04:03:30 PM
I've succumbed to the temptation.

When they were released in the UK, I was camping, desperate for the first cup of tea of the day, um’d and ah’d and then they sold out within the hour.

I’ve bought one in Italy. I’m not expecting the landed price to be inordinately greater than the British retail price of £360 including VAT.

For any Brits interested, I estimate:

£298.89 Italian retail price excluding Italian or British VAT
£19.55 FedEx/DHL
£63.69 British import VAT
£0 British excise duty
£12.00 Customs clearance fee.

£394.13 Total, so a premium of about £30 which I can live with.

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #185 on: June 27, 2022, 07:43:51 PM
Quote from: SAKTaschenmesser on June 27, 2022, 05:42:59 PM
An update. It has cleared British customs today and I will hopefully receive it in the next couple of days.

This would be me looking at the tracking info if I had one on the way  ;) :D

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #186 on: June 27, 2022, 11:51:19 PM
Hey David,

This is great.  I was doing some organizing today and used the exercise as an excuse to handle mine.  It is a truly wonderful knife, and I'm sure you will love yours too.

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #187 on: June 28, 2022, 06:00:56 PM
Finally.



A week's tour of Italy, long weekend in Paris, a week taking in the English countryside, then delivered to the wrong house.

Soldier = 127g and Officer = 82g weight.

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #188 on: June 28, 2022, 11:33:35 PM
Finally it arrived, wonderful, accompanied by a Zippo Solid Copper 2022 in the image.


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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #189 on: June 29, 2022, 07:17:37 AM
Glad to see it finally arrived, SAKTaschenmesser, and lovely pics SAKTAschenmesser and Elqfaltaba10! :like: :like:
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #190 on: June 29, 2022, 04:55:16 PM
Thanks Rizio Il Ghiro, one more photo with the previous Replica Soldier's Knife 1891.

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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #191 on: June 29, 2022, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: Elqfaltaba10 on June 28, 2022, 11:33:35 PM
Finally it arrived, wonderful, accompanied by a Zippo Solid Copper 2022 in the image.
The SAK is plenty nice, but that Zippo... :drool:
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Reply #192 on: June 29, 2022, 06:28:45 PM
Looking great guys!  So fun to see the two special SAKs together.   Congratulations to all who are enjoying these fine collectibles. 
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Re: New 1897 replica coming
Reply #193 on: June 29, 2022, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: Elqfaltaba10 on June 29, 2022, 04:55:16 PM
Thanks Rizio Il Ghiro, one more photo with the previous Replica Soldier's Knife 1891.


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