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My Next Project 1923 84m
on: July 13, 2022, 02:03:04 AM
So I just received this old timer. It’s in pretty rough shape. Scales loose with cracks/chips, backspring for opening layer broken/missing, has a bolt for the one pivot. You know, the usual stuff. The important thing is that it still exists and that the tools and parts are intact and in good order.

The plan:

Tomorrow I will break it down completely. Then I will be planing the back of the scales followed by filling the holes and gaps with epoxy with a pigment added mixed with charcoal to match the old surface. I will then reassemble, likely with washers at each end, birdseye rivets, reassemble. I have a spring that will work perfectly. I’m going to upload pics and update as I progress over the next few days.

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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #1 on: July 13, 2022, 11:12:33 AM
Great stuff Petey will look forward to seeing the results :tu:
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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #2 on: July 13, 2022, 02:20:24 PM
I'm in for the ride.   :popcorn:
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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #4 on: July 13, 2022, 04:40:55 PM
I would love to see some "in progress" pics in addition to the finished product if that's possible!

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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #5 on: July 13, 2022, 06:55:50 PM
Ok so for day two I am working on disassembly and cleaning. This knife is filthy there is so much gunk in every possible crevice that must be cleaned well for everything to fit properly. I have the new spring, which is from the opening layer of a later Tinker Small. Appears that it should work without much if any modification. It’s the same thickness and shape just might need some minor work to the tangs.  :twak:

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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #6 on: July 13, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
All the parts after light cleaning. I will be polishing them all anyway so it wasn’t important to get them perfectly clean, mostly just get the chunky stuff off.

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Reply #7 on: July 13, 2022, 09:06:57 PM
Sanding the parts smooth. Getting any rough spots out, and flattening the liners. I’m not going to fully polish the liners, I want them to maintain an old, distressed appearance but operate and feel smooth.

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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #8 on: July 13, 2022, 09:08:58 PM
So I made new pins and have everything assembled. Pretty happy with how it’s going. Tomorrow I will start on the scales because that’s when my epoxy arrives.

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Reply #9 on: July 13, 2022, 09:30:34 PM
It's really interesting to see it all disassembled and coming back together.

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Reply #10 on: July 14, 2022, 04:01:26 PM
Nice project, Pete.  Looking forward to seeing the final assembly!
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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #11 on: July 14, 2022, 07:45:19 PM
Quote from: marlowe221 on July 13, 2022, 09:30:34 PM
It's really interesting to see it all disassembled and coming back together.

Thanks. I’m glad you’re following along. I am now waiting for the epoxy and color to arrive. HobieonYouTube did this with epoxy and redwood dust, but I am going to try and use eyebrow powder. I have two shades that are both very close looking, one lighter, one darker, that I think mixed together and possibly with some charcoal added will get me to the right color. I have to do a couple of test mixes first and see what the color looks like dry then adjust. Kinda boring but I really want to keep the original scales if at all possible. If not, I will be using either grey vulcanized fiber, which would look amazing, or a red micarta that is the same red as cellidor scales and would also look awesome. That’s only if I cannot make the scales not only work on the knife but also feel solid and like they would hold up to actual use.
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Reply #12 on: July 14, 2022, 08:10:39 PM
Great work, Petey! :like: :like:
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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #13 on: July 14, 2022, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: Rizio Il Ghiro on July 14, 2022, 08:10:39 PM
Great work, Petey! :like: :like:


Thanks. Still has a way to go but it’s gonna be great.   :hatsoff:
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Reply #14 on: July 14, 2022, 08:41:08 PM
Good job ! 

It would be nice if you posted bigger pictures.
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Reply #15 on: July 14, 2022, 08:57:29 PM
Quote from: SteveC on July 14, 2022, 08:41:08 PM
Good job ! 

It would be nice if you posted bigger pictures.

Sure I’ll try the larger size next time. Have had problems in the past with them being over the allowed size so I’m in the habit of uploading the small version.
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Reply #16 on: July 14, 2022, 08:58:41 PM
Bigger pics. Let’s see if they come thru.


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Reply #17 on: July 14, 2022, 09:00:38 PM
I tried to keep them in order with the above posts. This is the large size because the original size would be too big to upload.

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Reply #18 on: July 14, 2022, 11:23:00 PM
Thank you for sharing the pictures of your progress. I am really enjoying following along. :like: :tu: :tu:
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Reply #19 on: July 15, 2022, 12:12:27 AM
Great looking project there Petey.  Very much looking forward to seeing how this progresses.  :cheers:
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Reply #20 on: July 15, 2022, 07:33:35 PM
Here is a video of progress so far. Did best I could to try and explain the steps. Right now I am working on getting the color of the epoxy right to repair the scales so it might be a few days before another update so please bear with me. Restoration of a 1923 84mm Victorinox Swiss Army Knife
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Reply #21 on: July 18, 2022, 08:56:47 PM
So the new spring caused some minor issues. The tension was weak on one of the tools on that layer and the sd closed to low in the handle. To fix this I had to grind about a mm off the end of the spring and give a very subtle bend to it to get everything working.

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Reply #22 on: July 19, 2022, 04:01:01 PM
Thank you for documenting this.  Looking great so far.  I couldn't open your link so I added it so others can see. 


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Reply #23 on: July 20, 2022, 05:49:50 PM
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Thank you for documenting this.  Looking great so far.  I couldn't open your link so I added it so others can see. 



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Reply #24 on: July 20, 2022, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: petey.grizz on July 14, 2022, 08:57:29 PM
Sure I’ll try the larger size next time. Have had problems in the past with them being over the allowed size so I’m in the habit of uploading the small version.

Much better !   :tu:
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Reply #25 on: July 22, 2022, 08:25:30 AM
Thanks, Aloha! :hatsoff:
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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #26 on: July 22, 2022, 06:09:19 PM
 :hatsoff: So my slabs of red burlap micarta arrived last night. Today I am rough shaping the scales. Once the shape is done I will hand sand and sculpt the top of the scales and round off the edges. I cut the slab to the length of the scales then cut that right down the middle lengthwise which gave me two rectangles about the size of the scales. Then I later liners on and drilled the wholes and held in place with pins and used a cut off wheel and sanding drum to cut off the excess. The rest will be all done by hand with sandpaper.

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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #27 on: July 22, 2022, 08:01:45 PM
So I put the scales on to finish shaping the scales. Once I got it roughly where I wanted it, I peened the pins. Now I will file them down flush and do a final sanding and polish.

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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #28 on: July 22, 2022, 10:12:24 PM
a little bit of mineral oil on the scales will make them darker and look sexier.

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Re: My Next Project 1923 84m
Reply #29 on: July 22, 2022, 10:20:36 PM
Quote from: Swisster on July 22, 2022, 10:12:24 PM
a little bit of mineral oil on the scales will make them darker and look sexier.

Good tip!  I just finished sanding then cleaned and oiled the scales and it looks great now. Works great too. 

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