GOAT Tools Owners Club

[Adam5]

A place to show off the new kid on the block:

[Poncho65]

Congrats Adam

So how is it in real world applications?

[Echotech]

great stuff interesting in your opinion of it

[Adam5]

We will find out. I plan on carrying it this week 

[SteveC]

 

[pa_strunk]

Center axis universal bit driver works well with ratchet driver.

[Grand_Banana]

I’ll be following this and I’m interested to see what you all think.  I am still not sure about it. 

Anyone try the “hammer” function yet?  Pretty sure that’s the point of the flattened handle ends, right?

[Adam5]

Yes I have used the hammer, and I like it. However, hammering in a horizontal orientation shakes the bit loose from the bit driver. I thought perhaps a bit with a ball detent would help, but that shakes loose also.

The magnet that is used to retain the bit in the bit holder does not exert much force on the bit


Before hammering


After hammering

[Adam5]

Center axis universal bit driver works well with ratchet driver.

 

[Adam5]

My scissor spring has a tendency to pop out of place, no doubt aided by a bit too much rounding over at the edge of the scissor handle:






Otherwise, the scissors seem to cut fine.

By the way, that would be the remnants of my lunch that you see on my leg   

[pa_strunk]

The Leatherman ratchet and bits sit deeper than regular size quarter inch bits. I can turn it upside down and  shake it without loosing Leatherman bits, ratchet, or regular quarter inch bits.

[Adam5]

A visual comparison with the Free P4:




GOAT pliers are spring-loaded, Free P4 are not


I swapped in the S35vn blade this morning



The hot swap feature seems to work great. I am a little clumsy with it, but I am sure swapping out tools would go quickly with a little practice.

The only removeable tool that I don't like is the file. It is of the same quality as what is found in many Chinese MTs. I may make a file to take its place.

[Adam5]

It seems that so much thought and attention was spent on the handles that the pliers became somewhat of an afterthought.



The Free P4 was able to easily cut 8 awg THHN copper, 10 awg THHN copper, 14/2 Romex, and bare 14 awg copper.

The GOAT MT could not. There are two reasons why:

1) Both MTs have bypass cutters. Bypass cutters cut by way of shearing force. However, many bypass cutters taper to an edge. This allows the cutter to indent and wedge apart the material (as anvil cutters do), aiding the shearing action. The Free P4 replaceable cutters are made in this manner. The GOAT replaceable cutters are flat and have to rely almost totally on shearing forces.

2) Since the cutters rely on shearing, there must be enough room for the material to move past the cutters. The GOAT does not have enough room for the material to move and so the material prevents the jaws from closing all the way.

GOAT



P4



I was able to cut 16 awg soft steel wire, but not easily. Given that this MT is billed as "Gear Of All Trades", this is a major flaw that should be corrected going forward.

[Farmer X]

Given that this MT is billed as "Gear Of All Trades", this is a major flaw that should be corrected going forward.

Nice write-up!

[Poncho65]

Glad to see it going theough it's paces  Hopefully that is something that can be remedied either on later models or with a redesign of the removable cutters

[ReamerPunch]

Thanks for the comparison, Adam. I am very interested in how this will perform. Too bad about the cutters. Certainly an issue that should be looked at. 

[Adam5]

Thanks guys 

It does take a great picture 

[Echotech]

it’s a very cool looking MT

[damiross]

Is there a website for the GOAT? 

[SurgeUk]

Is there a website for the GOAT?

https://goat-tools.myshopify.com/ 

[damiross]

https://goat-tools.myshopify.com/ 

I've gone to this page but there is no place to buy the tool.  When I click on "Shop". I get a 404 error

[Cynan]

You can’t buy them yet - only sign up to the newsletter.

Only those that backed the kickstarter are getting them currently,.

[damiross]

You can’t buy them yet - only sign up to the newsletter.

Only those that backed the kickstarter are getting them currently,.

Thank you.  Probably can't afford one yet but I did want to dream  as I looked at them online.

[Dutch_Tooler]

 

[Dutch_Tooler]

 

[Dutch_Tooler]

First impressions, just on the basis of the standard implement loadout (this may echo those of some others, I guess; will try exchange implements this weekend):
A tad smaller and lighter than I expected. Seems well enough made, with the following small issues:
- Scissor spring sometimes slides off its abutment surface when operated. (I have an idea how to solve that through judicious application of a file.)
- Opening tools requires getting used to, and tends to cause release lever to open as well. One trick is to keep this closed with whatever fingers are free at the time.
- Sheath has two elastic side pockets - alas with an open bottom, so maybe only good for things having clips - and one belt side pocket which will fit some spare implements, although the long ones stick out at the top and will inhibit tight closing of the lid flap.

[Dutch_Tooler]

I'm beginning to like the hot swap feature. This works really well, if you keep in mind which way of inserting the tool is the correct one. The pic below shows how.

The scalpel blade holder is really nice. I need to buy spare blades though. Can anyone identify the type of fitting?

I had bought the file as an extra and have briefly tried it out. As someone remarked above, it is not quite as bad as some, but by far not as good as some others  . The wide cross-cut and narrow sides do a reasonable job. The wide diagonal-cut side could use rather a bit of improvement.

OHO main blades seems to work, kind of (if you manage to avoid the release handle and ignore tool clumping) but I have yet to find a good way to OHC...

[Aloha]

Curious to hear more as y'all use the GOAT more.  Bummer about the file.  I have alway liked LM diamond file.  I can see how the scissor spring ( thanks to pics ) pops out.  Does seem like a fix that owner can do  .  I don't cut much wire but I can see how it can be bothersome for this tool not to be able to cut. 

[Dutch_Tooler]

On the wire cutter:
- on my pliers the cutter inserts were loose and had to be tightened, and now they rub slightly when closed denoting better contact between the cutting surfaces.
- however, even so, the blunt insert edges don't cut but only shear off (as noted somewhere above) causing pinching in the too small space afforded and mediocre cutting at best. Insulated wire tends to have its insulation pinched, not cut (if you're lucky you'll cut the metal core though).

[Dutch_Tooler]

I've taken a closer look at the wire cutter inserts. I had bought a package of spare ones too.

I was wondering if one could grind an angle into the sides straightening the current two-faced sides into a single face, thereby making the cutting edge say 75-80 degrees instead of 90.

If one did, would that destroy the tempering, assuming one exists on stock inserts?