The Sportsman Challenge - April 2024

[marlowe221]

What about a Swiss Sportsman? 

Do what now? 

[GA1dad]

Do what now? 

  the Wenger Swiss Sportsman. The only "sportsman" I own.

https://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Wenger+Swiss+Sportsman

[marlowe221]

Ah, well I guess I had the Victorinox Sportsman in mind. But I see no reason not to include the Evolution 10 or Wenger Commander - it’s the same basic tool set.

[Myron]

I think the actual Swiss Sportsman from Wenger has scissors doesn't it?  Scissors would be the one tool I'll miss most on a Vx Sportsman challenge. 

[HarleyXJGuy]

Sportsman you say.

Is there a badge for that?

Carry a Tinker Small most days so would be an easy one for me.

[Bunk Tuppins]

Oh heck I vote for a little diversity, equity (same name!) and inclusion!  Adds a little variety to us sporty types, eh?

[Bunk Tuppins]

Sportsman you say.

Is there a badge for that?

Carry a Tinker Small most days so would be an easy one for me.

It's a worthy knife.  Not terribly different from a small Tinker but if you play guitar or do things that require some nail care, it or a cadet is worth having.

[marlowe221]

Sportsman you say.

Is there a badge for that?

Carry a Tinker Small most days so would be an easy one for me.

Absolutely no idea! I also don’t know who to beg for a badge if there isn’t one.

[nate j]

There was a Tween (84mm/85mm) SAK Challenge that ran in June 2023.  A badge was created for it, and completing this Sportsman Challenge should qualify for that badge (assuming you don’t already have it).

[nate j]

More info here:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=59292

[HarleyXJGuy]

There was a Tween (84mm/85mm) SAK Challenge that ran in June 2023.  A badge was created for it, and completing this Sportsman Challenge should qualify for that badge (assuming you don’t already have it).

Yep already scored that one.

[Storm]

Absolutely no idea! I also don’t know who to beg for a badge if there isn’t one.

I believe Whoey is the badge maker for this forum, flick him a message and see if a new badge is a doable thing 

[marlowe221]

I'm happy to message anyone and say "pretty please with sugar on top?" but.... Don't we have to have a minimum of 10 people in the challenge to qualify?

Or am I imagining that rule? 

[IMR4198]

  During the 108mm challenge, we never really had an official list.  Just a list of people who had showed some interest at one point.  When the challenge began, I don't think there were 10 people.  Maybe eight.  I remember hearing the 10 member rule, but don't know how it got started.
  I tried to send you a PM or two about the badge business, but maybe you didn't get them.  The discontinued SAK challenge that Lazar started only has three or four in the posts.  There is a badge for discontinued SAKs but with a starting a thread and 30 days of posts requirement.  Some badges need a take part in a challenge element.  I have no say in the matter, but do wonder.  Best wishes.  G
 

[marlowe221]

I'm sorry, I didn't see the PMs! I normally get an email when I get one but maybe gmail got overenthusiastic about trying to protect me....

I will read them and investigate and inquire further!

[HarleyXJGuy]

Am I crazy or have I seen folks doing badge challenges by them selves in the past?

[nate j]

Am I crazy or have I seen folks doing badge challenges by them selves in the past?

My understanding is that, depending on the requirements of each specific badge, it is possible to earn some existing badges by oneself.

However, if one is requesting a new challenge badge be created that does not already exist, then a minimum of ten members must participate in the challenge for a new badge to be created.


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[HarleyXJGuy]

My understanding is that, depending on the requirements of each specific badge, it is possible to earn some existing badges by oneself.

However, if one is requesting a new challenge badge be created that does not already exist, then a minimum of ten members must participate in the challenge for a new badge to be created.


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Makes sense.

[Jeffjeeptj]

During the Classic Challenge I found I really liked the file (mine is the old style/not serrated) and used it more than I thought I would.  I also had not paid any attention to a Sportsman.  When this Challenge was “floated out” I started looking at the Sportsman and decided I must buy one, mainly due the included file.  I rarely use the small blade unless cutting the cork wrapper off a wine bottle.  The glass is sort of tough on the blade.  Bought the latest edition Sportsman, but, disliked the serrated file and returned it.   Found a couple used ones and bought them.  I pocket the Sportsman most mornings unless it is some type of special day that feels like a Huntsman or Workchamp is required.

Hoping we can find the required 10 participants.

[IMR4198]

    I would like to see the challenge reach ten participants.  Of course I don't have a Sportsman.  I do have a Wenger Evo S10 or whatever they called them.  85mm.  Big blade, nail file, can opener, cap lifter/screwdriver, awl, corkscrew.  So unless the SAK fairy drops a Sportsman out of the sky into my mailbox, that is what I have available.
    There was some talk of letting in the out-of-town relatives to Sportsman.  Let me know what you decide.  Current sign-up members as well as Marlowe.  All participants get a vote.  No hard feeling either way.  Best wishes.  G
 

[Jeffjeeptj]

Looking through this thread, it looks like there are 5 on the list.  If I am wrong please correct me.  What about GA1dad and his wenger.  At least it is named Sportsman.  The SAK Sportsman is so close to other 2 layer SAKs, what models do you have in mind IMR?

I would like to do another 30 day challenge.  I had a lot of fun on my first.
Also, IIRC someone mentioned a tween 84/85 challenge.  Is using that badge off limits?

[IMR4198]

   As far as badges, it seems that anyone who completes this challenge would be eligible for the Tween 84/85 badge.  Some already have that badge.  I think Marlowe does, so he couldn't get another. 
   If somewhere close to 10 sign up, then there would be a new Sportsman badge.  All would be eligible.  There weren't 10 in the 108 challenge and we all got a new badge.  I counted the first couple of days and there weren't 10.  After that I forgot about it and just did my posts.  If there was no new badge authorized for the 108 challenge, I planned on trying to get the Vintage SAK badge, since my Trooper was pre-1986.  However we did get a new badge. 
    I thought of using my Wenger Evo S10.  Same tool set as a Vic Sportsman, (more or less) and 1mm difference in length of the scales. I wouldn't have offered that as a substitute, but someone else brought up the possibility.  That way Marlowe (and maybe others) could have a badge if I could help to make the 10 participant goal.
    The Wenger eligibility is still up in the air.  I would be happy with a "just the Vic Sportsman is eligible" decision.   Whether or not I am in, most of you could still apply for the Tween 84/85 badge.  Read the requirements for yourself and see what you think.  Best wishes.  G
 
     

[Jeffjeeptj]

Marlowe - the Sportsman seems unique because of the file.  Research shows the Cadet has a file,  Would adding the Cadet be viable and get us to 10?  May not be acceptable because of Alox?

[marlowe221]

Personally, I’m in favor of including the Wenger/Evo models with the same tool set as the Vic Sportsman.

The actual Wenger Sportsman though… didn’t that one have scissors? Seems like kind of a different beast. I mean, no scissors and no small blade is kind of a big part of the “challenge” that a Vic Sportsman presents.

The Cadet - I don’t really know. Never thought about my opinion on that. Don’t we already have a Cadet Challenge? Also, you’re losing the back tools and scale tools versus the cellidor versions… 

[IMR4198]

   For some reason I thought you had the Tween badge, Marlowe.  I see you are still eligible.  With only 5 members in, that would be a good way to get your badge.  Same for the others, I think. 
    No reason for me to jump in.  Spring is here and lots to do besides post here.  There is a great group of participants in your challenge and it should be lots of fun.  Best wishes.  G
 

[Jeffjeeptj]

I’m fine with a tween badge

[Brock O Lee]

I discovered the Sportsman a few years ago after Vic upgraded it with the new file, and I really like it.

I haven't done a challenge in ages, so this is a good opportunity. I have no objection to include equivalent Wenger models if we want to open that door.

Count me in!

1. marlowe221
2. Myron
3. Bunk Tuppins
4. Jeffjeeptj
5. AndyAaron
6. Brock O Lee

[IMR4198]

   I didn't see any anti-IMR comment, so I am in too.  Marlowe and I had a lot of fun doing the MiniChamp ordeal.  Best wishes.  G
1. marlowe221
2. Myron
3. Bunk Tuppins
4. Jeffjeeptj
5. AndyAaron
6. Brock O Lee
7. IMR4198

[GA1dad]

What about GA1dad and his wenger.  At least it is named Sportsman. 

Yeah,,, the Swiss Sportsman really is a completely different critter. I concur that it should not be allowed in "this" challenge. I've already used it in another past challenge.

As for me, for April  I have an eye on possibly participating in the fire starter challenge.

 

[IMR4198]

   I would have like to join in the Firestarter challenge.  Mostly because of the members signed up for it and since Reamer was running it.  I decided that I wouldn't have much to contribute.  No sense in being a boat anchor.  Best wishes.  G