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How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer

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How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
on: January 31, 2024, 10:56:52 PM
A little different than my last Spydernox build.  This is going to be a complete "how to:" with a custom internal storage layer.  Didn't really think storage on a 58mm was needed, just wanted to see if I could.  Seems to have turned out well.  Anyways, lets get into it.
Supplies:  Mini Champ, Spyderco Ladybug Gen1, Brass Sheet 0.064" and 0.093" thickness, and 1.5mm Brass Rod.

Let's start with the scales.  Use a liner from any 58mm Vic and trace the outside diameter and the pivot holes.  Then use a center punch to mark the pivot holes for drilling.

Next, use a 1/16" drill bit to drill the pivot holes.

Pivot holes drilled, cut the rough shape out, then I went to the belt sander to get to the final shape.


Then smoothed the edges and rounded them off.  Also used a larger drill bit to counter sink the pivot holes for peening the 1.5mm brass rod pivots.

Continued to sand the scales, starting with 80 grit and worked my way up and then polished with a dremel and polishing compound.

Now let's start with the custom storage layer. 
Drew on a piece of paper what I thought might work.  Cut out the paper (with SAK scissors of course) and super glued the paper pieces to some 0.093" Brass Sheet.  Center marked where the pivot pins would be.

Drilled the holes where the pivot pins go and a hole where a spring for the storage lid catch would go.

Cut out the rough shape and then off to the belt sander I went.


Got the shape I wanted, then proceeded to test fit everything.

Ended up sanding and filing some more to get closer to the final shape.  Took a spring for a Vic scissor, folded it on it's self and put it in the slot I made for the spring.  You can probably start to see how this is going to work now.

Next I did the 1.5mm brass rod pivots.  Mounted them in a vise wrapped in leather.

Using a small hammer start peening one end until you get something like this.  Do this four times.

Test fit the rods into your scales.

Now lets disassemble the mini champ.  Start by center marking in the middle of the pivots.  Drill into them just enough to not run into the bushings (in case you ever want to make something with traditional scales, save the bushings.)

I've been using an old 2x4 with 4 holes drilled to use as a jig of sorts to punch out the pivots.

Using a small punch and hammer, knock out the pivots.

If you did it right, you will have not damaged the bushings.

Mini Champ disassembled.

I then went to work on the Spyderco Ladybug blade.
Cut a small piece of 2.5mm brass rod to peen into the pivot hole.  We are going to create a new pivot hole.

Using a small hammer start peening that brass rod into the pivot hole.

File off the excess brass.

Get a Vic blade and mark where you want the new pivot hole to be and then drill it out.

Then insert a piece of 1.5mm brass rod in the pivot of the Spyderco blade and a Vic blade, then using a sharpie, mark the shape of the blade onto the Spyderco blade.


Using a belt sander, get it to the shape you want.  Don't get the blade too hot, you don't want to mess with the heat treat.  Keep a bowl of water next to you.

Final shape and cutting edge grind (single grind).

Next up is the saw made from the ruler.  Put the ruler next to a 91mm saw and mark where your first cuts will be.


Using a dremel, carefully cut slots into the ruler, don't go too deep, use the triangle file for final depth.

Now go with the dremel at an opposite angle, in between the cuts you made and make your cuts.

Mount the ruler into a vise and take your triangle file to make the final cuts.  Follow the angle of the dremel cuts you made.

Test on a piece of wood.  Good to go!

Final profile of saw and after polishing.

Now start assembly.  Start by putting the 1.5mm brass rods that you peened earlier, into the first scale.  Then the first liner and then the first layer of tools and springs and next liner.

Next layer was the custom storage layer.

Next layer was the saw, nail file, small blade, and normal blade.

Now put on the the other scale and cut the 1.5mm brass rods down till you have about two liners worth of thickness and begin to peen the ends of the rods down.


Do a final polish and your done!






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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #1 on: January 31, 2024, 11:54:46 PM
Wow man, amazing work. Seriously.  :hatsoff: Any chance we could see a video of what its like to open and close the storage layer?


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #2 on: February 01, 2024, 01:26:15 AM
 :iagree: :tu:

Video  :popcorn:
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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #3 on: February 01, 2024, 04:47:13 AM
I third that video request.

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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #4 on: February 01, 2024, 05:20:43 AM
I'll see if I can get a short video hosted somewhere and post it maybe tomorrow.


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #5 on: February 01, 2024, 07:34:59 AM
That's a fantastic mod Lazar  :o
And very nicely illustrated  :like:

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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #6 on: February 01, 2024, 12:44:13 PM
Well, went and created a YouTube channel just so you guys could see a video of the storage layer, lol.
Here you go!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Utj_POStS0E&si=sDcSSK_S-6JJCWIs


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #7 on: February 01, 2024, 12:46:22 PM
OMG, I love this!
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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #8 on: February 01, 2024, 03:22:20 PM
That compartment sounds solid as you open and close it.  Great job on this one.  :hatsoff:
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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #9 on: February 01, 2024, 03:33:55 PM
Wow man, amazing work. Seriously.  :hatsoff: Any chance we could see a video of what its like to open and close the storage layer?
:iagree: :tu:

Video  :popcorn:
That's a fantastic mod Lazar  :o
And very nicely illustrated  :like:

Badge awarded Sir  :salute:
OMG, I love this!

Thanks for the kind words everyone!


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #10 on: February 01, 2024, 03:38:14 PM
That compartment sounds solid as you open and close it.  Great job on this one.  :hatsoff:

Thank you Sir!  I think it turned out well.  One thing I tried to make work, but it didn't, was when closing the lid, to be able to close it with just one hand/finger.  The way it is now, I have to push the catch out of the way, then close the lid.  It takes two hands, but other than that, I think it works fine.


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #11 on: February 01, 2024, 04:11:39 PM
Thank you Sir!  I think it turned out well.  One thing I tried to make work, but it didn't, was when closing the lid, to be able to close it with just one hand/finger.  The way it is now, I have to push the catch out of the way, then close the lid.  It takes two hands, but other than that, I think it works fine.

It is already next level, but finding a way to make the one hand close idea work would be phenomenal. Excellent mod!


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #12 on: February 01, 2024, 04:37:27 PM
It is already next level, but finding a way to make the one hand close idea work would be phenomenal. Excellent mod!

When I get home tonight, I'm going to take a look at the tip of the lid and the tip of the lid catch and see if I can make it work.  I think I may just need to put more of a radius on the bottom tip of the lid.  Ran out of time last night and this morning.


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #13 on: February 02, 2024, 03:56:31 AM
Finally got a chance to see the video. "Absolutely outstanding"  :salute:
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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #14 on: February 02, 2024, 04:32:09 AM
Worked on the lid and catch a little.  Got it working and am able to close it with one hand now.  I'll try to get a video up.


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #15 on: February 02, 2024, 04:41:04 PM
OMG, I love this!

+1

Amazing work, thanks for sharing awl the little steps.

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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #16 on: February 02, 2024, 07:53:35 PM
+1

Amazing work, thanks for sharing awl the little steps.

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Thank you Sir and I see what you did there, lol!


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #17 on: February 03, 2024, 12:20:32 AM
New video uploaded to YouTube.  Shows the storage layer in use after fixing it and the rest of the knife too.  Enjoy!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pD89oXjllDs&si=AMODEOV8EhXnZQBL
« Last Edit: February 03, 2024, 12:26:50 AM by lazar »


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #18 on: February 03, 2024, 06:11:42 AM
Real good closing action there.  Great job on getting it sorted.
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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #19 on: February 03, 2024, 06:08:50 PM
Amazing work. Bravo!

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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #20 on: February 05, 2024, 03:01:18 PM
Amazing work. Bravo!

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Real good closing action there.  Great job on getting it sorted.

Thank you gentlemen! :salute:


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #21 on: February 06, 2024, 06:04:48 PM
Superb engineering my friend, particularly impressed with the locking mechanism on the storage layer


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Re: How to: 58mm Spydernox w/ Internal Storage Layer
Reply #22 on: February 06, 2024, 06:16:29 PM
Esse Quam Videri


 

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