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Fishing knife mod
on: February 11, 2024, 12:59:05 AM
This is an attempt at the hacker badge. This mod had been in my mind for a while, and it has evolved from a bladeless tool, 4 layer, 3 layer, 2 layer, and back to a 3 layer. I wanted to try scales that have the pins all the way through, and a hidden 4th pin. I have some parts on order so this may take a few weeks to complete, but  I will go one step at a time.
It all started with an old downed tree hanging in my bamboo grove.
 
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After the raw blanks were had I sanded the inside face of them.

 
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #1 on: February 11, 2024, 01:08:03 AM
From there I used a liner as a guide and took to the rasp to the blanks to get the outer shape. 
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After the outer shape was done I went about the back tool cutout. 
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #2 on: February 11, 2024, 01:17:48 AM
Looking good!  Can't wait to see it finished.
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #3 on: February 11, 2024, 01:18:54 AM
The cutout went pretty well. 
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And then I added a depression to accommodate tue 4th pin head.
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #4 on: February 11, 2024, 01:21:02 AM
Quote from: lazar on February 11, 2024, 01:17:48 AM
Looking good!  Can't wait to see it finished.

Stay tuned my friend! I wish the champ were here so I could keep working into the night, but being paced will probably work to my advantage.
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #5 on: February 11, 2024, 08:57:02 PM
I'll be watching.
For sure.
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #6 on: February 12, 2024, 04:40:26 PM
I am impatiently waiting for the materials to show up in the mail. So here are a few inspiration shots that I have found. None are saks, but I think I want a bail, and perhaps two little lines. 
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #7 on: February 15, 2024, 07:51:44 PM
One of the many perks of working at home - Some SAK modding during lunch break.
Popping scales, I guess I still was not careful enough and have tiny shavings from 5/6 holes.
 
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Drilling one went better than ever. Will be doing the next after work.
 
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #8 on: February 15, 2024, 08:18:42 PM
Quote from: Enginears on February 15, 2024, 07:51:44 PM
One of the many perks of working at home - Some SAK modding during lunch break.
Popping scales, I guess I still was not careful enough and have tiny shavings from 5/6 holes.
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Drilling one went better than ever. Will be doing the next after work.
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Nice!  I haven't found a way to avoid the shavings, the hot water trick seems to help a little, but I still always get those tiny shavings.
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #9 on: February 16, 2024, 01:48:05 AM
Quote from: lazar on February 15, 2024, 08:18:42 PM
Nice!  I haven't found a way to avoid the shavings, the hot water trick seems to help a little, but I still always get those tiny shavings.

Yeah this was with the hot water so I guess it's unavoidable to some degree.

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I decided to build this one from the pliers out.
 
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And here is the first rough assembly.
 
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After that I did some additional grinding on my “combo tool - flat head” to get it to lay a little lower.

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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #10 on: February 16, 2024, 01:57:02 AM
Next step was to peen the 4th pin.
 
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And then do the first dry fit of the scales.
 
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The scales were way to thick so I sanded them down closer to a standard scale and then glued them to the outer liners. I am not sure if this is really needed but I have seen it done and figured it would make the overall package tighter and prevent water from getting behind the wood. 
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As the glue dried I did some experimenting with wax, flames and pondered what treatment I would give the actual scales. 
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #11 on: February 16, 2024, 12:12:01 PM
Quote from: Enginears on February 16, 2024, 01:57:02 AM
Next step was to peen the 4th pin.
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And then do the first dry fit of the scales.
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The scales were way to thick so I sanded them down closer to a standard scale and then glued them to the outer liners. I am not sure if this is really needed but I have seen it done and figured it would make the overall package tighter and prevent water from getting behind the wood.   [ Quoting of attachment images from other messages is not allowed ]  

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Looking good!  :tu:
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #12 on: February 16, 2024, 08:09:56 PM
So nothing is ever perfect. I tried to make a brass bail and went through 4 before admitting it was not going to work with what I had.  I decided to go with steel after all. 
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So I made the bail, peened everything and then sanded down the outside one last time with 180, 200, and 1000 grit paper. The tools all have a great snap, and no play. This is the first 91mm knife I have done where the scales are peened onto the liners, I will definitely be interested to do more.
Here it is after a touch of wax and oil.
 
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #13 on: February 16, 2024, 08:12:35 PM
 
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Truth be told I am a pretty crappy fisherman, and mostly end up goofing around on kayaks and boats. But this is the intended use, clip it to your vest or PFD and have the pliers or hook tool deployed and at hand.
 
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #14 on: February 16, 2024, 08:19:51 PM
Very impressive!  I love it!!! :like:
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #15 on: February 16, 2024, 08:22:59 PM
That has a very nice old timey look. I respect everyone working with wood and hand tools. Like the bail especially. Very nice indeed!
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #16 on: February 17, 2024, 01:05:31 AM
I like that.  I may need to try my hand at that setup since we do like to fish.  What issues were you running into with the brass bail that you couldn't overcome?
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #17 on: February 17, 2024, 02:51:21 AM
 Hey thanks for the kind words guys.

I think the issue was mostly the small diameter. When I would flatten it, cracks were happening. A few times I got it flat and solid and then small pieces were cracking off during/after drilling. I tell you what though, the mock up looked sweet, I will be sourcing some bigger brass stock.
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #18 on: February 19, 2024, 03:08:35 PM
Kudos to you, Enginears, on such a wonderful job! Your craftsmanship is exceptional (and to think it was down with hand tools!) and makes it look like an heirloom. Thank you for sharing the process and  not just the final product. BTW, did you tried heating up ("annealing")  the wire before flattening or drilling?
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #19 on: February 19, 2024, 11:27:51 PM
Quote from: Juan el Boricua on February 19, 2024, 03:08:35 PM
Kudos to you, Enginears, on such a wonderful job! Your craftsmanship is exceptional (and to think it was down with hand tools!) and makes it look like an heirloom. Thank you for sharing the process and  not just the final product. BTW, did you tried heating up ("annealing")  the wire before flattening or drilling?

Hey Juan thank you for the kindness. You know in retrospect I should have tried annealing before giving up…. I have a Barlow styled mod in the works and may try the brass bail again. Thanks for the idea.
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #20 on: February 20, 2024, 12:55:03 AM
Beautiful.
Outstanding job.
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #21 on: April 08, 2024, 01:53:37 AM
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Truth be told I am a pretty crappy fisherman, and mostly end up goofing around on kayaks and boats. But this is the intended use, clip it to your vest or PFD and have the pliers or hook tool deployed and at hand.
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That turned out sweet!  :like:
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Re: Fishing knife mod
Reply #22 on: April 08, 2024, 02:57:27 PM
Thanks Adam. It has ended up being a very useful SAK  around the house as well as its intended purpose.
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