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Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC

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Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
on: October 04, 2024, 05:31:07 PM
This is likely to be a somewhat rambling post, so consider yourself forewarned!

Kraken's "Top 3 SAKs" post got me thinking a bit about my carry, both SAK and EDC in general.  I've noticed a bit of a trend this year to drop items from it, which is saying something because it was pretty minimal to begin with. 

Carl/jacknife/cbl51 has many posts where he explores how his mindset towards gear and what he carries shifted as he got older, becoming more focused and minimal.  For me, I've always been more minimal, I've never liked much stuff in my pockets, to the point that from about 2000-2007 or so, I didn't carry any kind of knife or tool.

So what's changed lately? Well, back in the spring, I stopped carrying my bullet space pen.  I had started EDCing it back in 2018, and would add a zebra F-701 during work (mainly for the ease of use being a clicky).  At the time I thought, "the space pen is so small, I hardly notice it, I'd be stupid not to carry it).  Well now, 6 years later, I realized that in that time I had probably used it maybe 3 times.  Plus it actually was noticeable.  Not much, but another thing floating in your pocket isn't nothing.  Plus, in my work slacks, there's a little half pocket type thing inside the right front pocket where i would put my Pioneer, flashlight, lip balm, and the space pen.  With all four, they wouldn't quite lay flat and ended up bunching together.  Not super comfortable.  So I dropped it from my carry and haven't really missed it.

More recently, as in about 3 weeks ago, I stopped wearing a watch.  This change was a little less planned and has been more difficult to adjust to.  Basically, I had two watches; a now 11 year old Momentum Atlas, and an almost 8 year old Timex Weekender.  The Momentum had been developing an issue the past few months where it would randomly stop after setting the time or date.  Not right after, but sometimes a few days later.  That eventually got worse to the point that a light bump would cause it to stop.  I'm not 100% sure whats going on, probably some plastic gear in the drive train or keyless works has worn down too much.  The Timex has started having issues with the crystal fogging from the inside.  Its a cheap watch (I'm honestly surprised its lasted this long, though the indiglo stopped working about a year after I was gifted it) with only 30M of water resistance, so its not too surprising.  I changed the caseback gasket, but I think its the crown stem gasket.  Its not really worth futzing with.  The problem is both watches are now discontinued.  If the lume dial Atlas was still made, I would've just bought a replacement and not thought twice about it.  But it was, so I did think twice.  And then three times. And then after about 1000 times rethinking and getting burnt out looking for and ideal replacement (its hard to overstate just how "perfect" I thought the atlas was in size, weight, comfort, and appearance), I just got tired of it and said, "smurf it, I'm going without a watch!" I'm only now getting over the reflexive glance at my left wrist...

So, that's a lot of words to say I'm down to a phone, wallet, wedding band, SAK, light, and lip balm.  Pretty minimal.  Heck, I'm even wondering if I should go back to the Cadet after 12 years of EDCing the Pioneer.  I probably won't, but it has crossed my mind.

Speaking of SAK choices, I'll quote myself from the "Top 3 SAKs" thread:

Most of the time, a few simple tools an knife are enough to get me by.  I'm also usually not too far from dedicated tools, and often when I need a tool, I need something random or specialized enough it wouldn't be on a SAK.  Therefore, I don't see much benefit in trying to expand tool selection and the accompanying weight.  Maybe something like a Spirit with a plus kit would be able to solve ~75% of those kinds of needs, but I am unwilling to carry that all the time.

Around the beginning of the year, I had a brief fancy to try something to add more functions which resulted in trying: a Compact, Cybertool 34, and a Syph007 custom Urban Pioneer (basically a Pioneer X with inline Philips).  None of those lasted more than a few days.  Heck, none of them even replaced the Pioneer in my pocket for a day, I just couldn't warm up to them.

So, why am I telling you all this?  Smurf if I know!  But I am curious to hear about your SAK and EDC journeys.  Have you changed?  If so why?  Do you change everyday just for fun, or based on anticipated tasks?  Or just growing wisdom as you age?  What say you?
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #1 on: October 04, 2024, 07:01:57 PM
A friend of mine and I were talking about the same t.  He now carries his phone, key fob, and a Vic Classic.  His heavy carry is a Minichamp in his desk drawer!  He says he really hasn't needed much else.  I bounce all over the spectrum on my EDC.  I love my Swisschamps and Workchamp, but I'm trying to go light now too.  Right now I have an Alox Minichamp and Gerber Dime.  If the Dime had better scissors I'd try carrying only that.

Thanks for posting this!  It's fun trying different angles on EDC.
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #2 on: October 04, 2024, 08:50:04 PM
  [ You are not allowed to view this attachment ]  I'm going through a period right now of wanting to carry the bare minimum I feel comfortable leaving the house with. Currently it's this;

Coach wallet - my wife bought this for me almost fifteen years ago and it's been the best wallet I've ever owned. I carry my drivers license, CWL, debit card and insurance card in it (sometimes cash, but it seems to evaporate ::))

SAK Cadet - sometimes a Bantam, but usually this.

Thrunite Saber - smaller than my Streamlight 1L-1AA but more light. It's "dual fuel" capable too.

Zebra F701 - I use a pen all the time. This one wears multiple hats; pen, windlass, pokey-stabby thing.

Slishman Pressure Wrap - Like a TQ, only not as narrowly focused. Can be used many different ways.

iPhone 16 - I'm not usually a "cutting edge of technology" guy, but they were free when we moved back over to T-Mobile. What's not to love about having communications, a great camera and the sum of human knowledge in your hand.

Not shown is my orange bandana; yet another "multitool" for everything from wiping my sweaty brow to first aid, it can do a lot of things.






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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #3 on: October 04, 2024, 10:06:07 PM
This gets me through.      :woohoo:


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #4 on: October 04, 2024, 10:40:41 PM
I’ve toyed around with different combinations for my EDC over the past few years. I started with a Rambler on my keys and a Huntsman, then swapped the Huntsman for a Compact. After a while I went on to a Super Tinker and then an Explorer Plus. Then the Rambler made way for a MiniChamp. Then a Midnight Manager. The Explorer took a vacation and I’ve carried a Climber for the past few years, but more often lately I’ve been eyeing the Explorer Plus again. I’m getting older and that mag glass sure does come in handy, along with the inline Philips driver. I have to make a slipcase for it with a slot for my Space Pen as it won’t fit in my current set up for the Climber. And the MiniChamp is back on my keys again; I just didn’t use the flashlight all that often to justify it. I’d rather have the orange peeler/package opener of the MiniChamp instead.

At work I started carrying a CyberTool 34, then moved on to a Super Tinker, then a Deluxe Tinker and then an Explorer. I finally settled on a SwissChamp in a custom belt pouch and a MiniChamp on my work keys as well. That combination has served me quite well for years now. Not that I’m working from home, those are now fidget toys for the most part; I get really excited when I actually get to use them for something around the house!

That’s about it for my EDC besides my watch, wallet and keys though. I don’t care for a lot in my pockets so I try to keep it at a minimum.
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #5 on: October 04, 2024, 11:11:12 PM
Starting in early 1990, I carried a Leatherman PST to work each and every day. Used the crap out of it. About 12 years later I upgraded to the OG Wave. Still carried it to work every day.

Fast forward to 2006. I lost that job. Ending up here in Kentucky working for Toyota Logistics Services. We buy all the cars produced at the Toyota plant and installing various option before shipping them on to dealers/distributors.

I continued to carry the Wave ( or any of the multiple Leatherman tools I had accumulated ) to work every day. Soon I realized I had no need for such a tool at work.

So, I went thru numerous brands/styles of pocket knives, before discovering the world of the SAK. I have picked up numerous Vics, Wengers, Swizas and Boker Tech Tools.

For several years I carried only my Wenger Soldier, bail included. I LOVED that knife, and still do!  But eventually I started trying them all out. Everything from 58mm to the mighty 130mm versions. 

I have carried minimal and maximum. Executive to Ranger 78.  I then modded a Pioneer X. Removed the blade and awl. That was tough because I LOVE that inline awl!!  I also modded the can opener to resemble the small flathead on the Technician.

I paired that (scissors, big flat head/bottle opener and modded can opener) with various knives. The main one, for a few years, was my Spyderco Autonomy 2.  Loved that combo.

Here recently, I reverted to only carrying my Blade HQ exclusive fat carbon-fiber scaled Cadet. Pretty happy with it.

I have been required, lately, to open many cardboard boxes, and cut them up. Usually I use a utility knife for that, as my Cadet blade could not handle all that cardboard.

I have used a few 93 and 111mm SAKs, my Benchmade Adamas and Spyderco Smock.   But the amount of cardboard is just too much for regular knives. The utility knife, with replaceable blade, is much more slicey.

Used my US Soldier yesterday and Locksmith today. Had to touch up the blades and both a few times each day.

So, Monday when I go back to work, I’ll be dropping that Cadet into my pocket. It will disappear, but will have everything I really NEED while at work.









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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #6 on: October 05, 2024, 12:31:05 AM
My view that the underlying quantum force beneath all of this EDC stuff - and MTO stuff - is the desire to feel good.  To convince ourselves that we have some small degree of control in this cold, cruel world.  It is almost wholly emotional in my view.  If every one of us stopped carrying everything except the absolute necessities of car keys, a driver's license and a credit card, it unlikely that any of us would die or end up in the hospital.  There is certainly a practicality to SAKs and EDC, but that is ancillary to the strong emotional force that compels us to EDC.

Seriously - what person in his right mind would pay $275 for an Obsidian ARC?  That's a wholly emotional venture, and even though I  have ranted about the absurd MSRP, my emotions are dragging me toward buying one.  I can see it happening.  It has nothing to do with utility.  A person focused solely on utility would never consider such a purchase.

As the emotions wax and wane, so too does our EDC.  Mr. Carl is a good example of this.  He was always a minimal EDC dude, but  now well into retirement even his formerly beloved Peanut knife seems to be too much for him.  The psyche, the emotion underlying it as has changed.  Its - again in my view - not something that derives from reconsidering how much utility we want in our pockets.

 :iagree: with myself - until I change my mind.



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Reply #7 on: October 05, 2024, 01:42:28 AM
Great input so far guys! I enjoy hearing the what, how, and why of people’s carry decisions  :like:


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Reply #8 on: October 05, 2024, 01:44:15 AM
Starting in early 1990, I carried a Leatherman PST to work each and every day. Used the crap out of it. About 12 years later I upgraded to the OG Wave. Still carried it to work every day.

Fast forward to 2006. I lost that job. Ending up here in Kentucky working for Toyota Logistics Services. We buy all the cars produced at the Toyota plant and installing various option before shipping them on to dealers/distributors.

I continued to carry the Wave ( or any of the multiple Leatherman tools I had accumulated ) to work every day. Soon I realized I had no need for such a tool at work.

So, I went thru numerous brands/styles of pocket knives, before discovering the world of the SAK. I have picked up numerous Vics, Wengers, Swizas and Boker Tech Tools.

For several years I carried only my Wenger Soldier, bail included. I LOVED that knife, and still do!  But eventually I started trying them all out. Everything from 58mm to the mighty 130mm versions. 

I have carried minimal and maximum. Executive to Ranger 78.  I then modded a Pioneer X. Removed the blade and awl. That was tough because I LOVE that inline awl!!  I also modded the can opener to resemble the small flathead on the Technician.

I paired that (scissors, big flat head/bottle opener and modded can opener) with various knives. The main one, for a few years, was my Spyderco Autonomy 2.  Loved that combo.

Here recently, I reverted to only carrying my Blade HQ exclusive fat carbon-fiber scaled Cadet. Pretty happy with it.

I have been required, lately, to open many cardboard boxes, and cut them up. Usually I use a utility knife for that, as my Cadet blade could not handle all that cardboard.

I have used a few 93 and 111mm SAKs, my Benchmade Adamas and Spyderco Smock.   But the amount of cardboard is just too much for regular knives. The utility knife, with replaceable blade, is much more slicey.

Used my US Soldier yesterday and Locksmith today. Had to touch up the blades and both a few times each day.

So, Monday when I go back to work, I’ll be dropping that Cadet into my pocket. It will disappear, but will have everything I really NEED while at work.

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Out of curiosity, with rotating through knives before you settled on the cadet, did you ever find yourself missing a tool you needed that you may have had if you carried a different one?


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #9 on: October 05, 2024, 01:46:50 AM
My view that the underlying quantum force beneath all of this EDC stuff - and MTO stuff - is the desire to feel good.  To convince ourselves that we have some small degree of control in this cold, cruel world.  It is almost wholly emotional in my view.  If every one of us stopped carrying everything except the absolute necessities of car keys, a driver's license and a credit card, it unlikely that any of us would die or end up in the hospital.  There is certainly a practicality to SAKs and EDC, but that is ancillary to the strong emotional force that compels us to EDC.

Seriously - what person in his right mind would pay $275 for an Obsidian ARC?  That's a wholly emotional venture, and even though I  have ranted about the absurd MSRP, my emotions are dragging me toward buying one.  I can see it happening.  It has nothing to do with utility.  A person focused solely on utility would never consider such a purchase.

As the emotions wax and wane, so too does our EDC.  Mr. Carl is a good example of this.  He was always a minimal EDC dude, but  now well into retirement even his formerly beloved Peanut knife seems to be too much for him.  The psyche, the emotion underlying it as has changed.  Its - again in my view - not something that derives from reconsidering how much utility we want in our pockets.

 :iagree: with myself - until I change my mind.

Good thoughts, and I think  :iagree: as well.

Even being a minimalist like I am, with a relatively fixed and boring carry, here I am on the forums.  There’s the emotional, feel good aspect at play. I wonder if it’s the same for Carl.


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Reply #10 on: October 05, 2024, 02:01:15 AM
Out of curiosity, with rotating through knives before you settled on the cadet, did you ever find yourself missing a tool you needed that you may have had if you carried a different one?
Occasionally. Sometimes I was wishing  I had the toothpick or tweezers from a SAK. Or the inline awl from my alox SAK. Or the scissors from my Pioneer X or Farmer X. Many times wishing I had a bigger blade when I was carrying one of my saks.

Many times wishing I had the needle nose pliers from one of my Leatherman knives.

Eh, can’t carry it all!!  Haha


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #11 on: October 05, 2024, 08:19:03 AM
Switched out the Compact for the 66 Soldier.    :woohoo:


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #12 on: October 05, 2024, 09:36:40 AM
Very interesting awl, enjoying hearing everyone’s thoughts :tu:

Like every one else here I’ve been through many (many!) iterations but for quite some time now my only must carry is my phone and my keychain

Added to this is the occasional bigger SAK or LM, but living in Sydney with tough laws, these are mostly only if I go into the bush, for a long drive or a trip away. They’re more just scattered throughout the house, always within easy reach

In recent times I’ve found the Skeletool is the PBMT I carry the most and the PX, Compact or Huntsman the SAK

So 99% of the time (from when I get up to when I go to bed) it’s the rambler, nitecore and peanut lighter (always like a way to make a fire on me) that’s carried

Today I was working up a ladder putting up a sunshade, needed to cut some cord and the rambler scissors did the job. Saved me coming down for something bigger, amazing what a 58mm SAK can do



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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #13 on: October 05, 2024, 12:24:24 PM
I’ve struggled with this subject for many years, and it seemed my EDC was in constant flux.  For about the last six years I’ve got it down to 91mm SAK, single AA cell flashlight, and bullet pen.  I also carry a phone and would never be without a watch.  I am a bit different from what seems to have become the norm on the forums.  I consider things like watch, wallet, keys, wedding band, my underwear…basic attire and don’t consider them much beyond the basics when evaluating my daily pocket edc (which for me is “extra” baggage).  I also agree there is a great deal of nostalgia involved.  For me things like a pocket knife hearken back to younger, healthier,, “simpler” times.   I’ve loved pocket knives and flashlights as far back asI can remember.  Also, there are times when I like the idea of a smaller and lighter knife and light, but I find that when things get too small in the hand, they are harder to handle and manipulate.  More easily dropped, which can be a problem when standing on a steep creek bank in the dark with no lights around trying to manipulate your tiny flashlight with one hand, and you drop your flashlight in the creek (not that I’d really know anything about that 😊). Not to mention they give up a bit of functionality.  Otherwise I’d be carrying a single cell AAA flashlight and a 58mm SAK model with pen as my complete pocket edc.

By the way, good thread topic.  I enjoy reading about the thinking process that goes into edc.
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #14 on: October 05, 2024, 02:33:58 PM
   Drop your flashlight?  Me, I would neve.... wait a minute.  I dropped mine this week.  Hard to find a black flashlight.  I think I agree with d.  Phone, wear a watch when I am away from home because I like to, carry a pocket knife because I always have.  Don't carry a pen.  I have one of those screwdriver bit key-chain tools on my keys.  I carried a pen and little note pad for a while.  Didn't use either and quit.  Wallet when I am away from home.  Don't carry keys when I am around the house. 
   I have been carrying a Leatherman more.  I might substitute that for a SAK.  See how that works out.  When I have to start wearing a jacket, that could be Opinel time.  Leatherman mass is noticeable with a pocket carry.  I don't like pouches and clips.  I carried a Leatherman clipped on a belt one time while I was clearing brush.  I lost it evidently within minutes.  Had to retrace my steps to find it. 
    I am enjoying this EDC subject matter.  Best wishes.  G
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #15 on: October 05, 2024, 03:27:42 PM
   Drop your flashlight?  Me, I would neve.... wait a minute.  I dropped mine this week.  Hard to find a black flashlight…
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lol, I’ve learned to appreciate wrist lanyards.


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #16 on: October 05, 2024, 04:46:44 PM
Good thoughts, and I think  :iagree: as well.

Even being a minimalist like I am, with a relatively fixed and boring carry, here I am on the forums.  There’s the emotional, feel good aspect at play. I wonder if it’s the same for Carl.

No, not at all. There is no feel good aspect at work with me, in fact, further acquisition via forums is a downer to me. I've long figured out what I need in my life style, and have selected those items. The emotional baggage that comes with forums only confuses things and is an irritant. Thats why I have basically abandoned the forums with only a peek back now and then out of curiosity, to what is going on. Over many years, I've made some friends here and on blade forums that I keep in touch with via emails, so I don't feel any need to keep up with the forums. Like I said, a peek now and then and I'm gone again for a few weeks.

Any emotional feel good I have at this stage of my life comes from doing what I can to secure a good future for me family.  I care more about the people in my life and spending as much time as I can doing road trips with the wife and dog to California and Maryland to see family. Some sight seeing along the way helps, as does some books on disc while we're driving.  I'm long past obsessing over what knife/tool is only pocket and what EDC stuff is on me. It gets a bit silly after a while, especially living a a 21st century environment and going around with enough stuff to equip a Conestoga wagon going across the plains in 1869.

Mr. Noodle is right; the psyche changes and that changes the whole life perception of things. When I had what I call. my awaking, it was like coming-out of a fevered delirium and seeing the real world. Like recovering from a temporary insanity and coming back into the real world.  I found out as I got older, that there is truth in that old saying "The older you get, the less you need."

Ya'll be good, we're leaving in the morning for Maryland and I won't be around for a while. Maybe check back to see where this thread goes.

Carl.

Don't get too serious, just enough will do.


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #17 on: October 05, 2024, 04:56:31 PM
Good thoughts, Carl. 

I wasn’t talking about acquisition specifically; for me it’s more a feel good to share about things I enjoy with others on the forum that keeps me coming back.

Hope you have a god trip!


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #18 on: October 06, 2024, 01:47:53 AM
What am interesting and enjoyable topic! Thirty five years before I ever heard the term EDC I was regularly carrying a few "just in case" items with me every day. For a long time it was a watch, wallet, Classic, and Fisher Space Pen. Eventually, the classic was replaced with a Climber. For a while I went with a  full size Leatherman (the first model released), then a Squirt. It wasn't too long before I felt the pull back to Swiss Army Knives and picked up a Rambler. That was around the time my daughter was born and I still consider it to be the ultimate dad knife. When she got a little older I started really getting into SAKs, and I now have an embarrassingly large collection that includes over 90 different models. I've tried everything from the afformentioned Rambler to a Swiss Champ, Cybertool, and Hercules. I bought an Executive when I heard they were going to be discontinued and that's the one SAK I can't go without. Around that same time I got my first Alox and the Pioneer/Soldier quickly became a favorite.

All these years later my EDC is a bit more than it was in my youth, but it's still fairly minimal in my mind. It consists of watch, phone, wallet, key fob, Executive, and (usually) a Pioneer. Once in a while I also carry a Vic Money Clip since my wallet is very slim. I no longer feel the need to carry a pen, and I wish I could go without my phone. The Pioneer is sometimes replaced with another SAK on the 84 to 93mm range. That is typically a Cadet, Sportsman, Spartan, or 91mm Companion, but if the mood strikes it could be one of many other SAKs.


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #19 on: October 06, 2024, 01:57:14 AM
What am interesting and enjoyable topic! Thirty five years before I ever heard the term EDC I was regularly carrying a few "just in case" items with me every day. For a long time it was a watch, wallet, Classic, and Fisher Space Pen. Eventually, the classic was replaced with a Climber. For a while I went with a  full size Leatherman (the first model released), then a Squirt. It wasn't too long before I felt the pull back to Swiss Army Knives and picked up a Rambler. That was around the time my daughter was born and I still consider it to be the ultimate dad knife. When she got a little older I started really getting into SAKs, and I now have an embarrassingly large collection that includes over 90 different models. I've tried everything from the afformentioned Rambler to a Swiss Champ, Cybertool, and Hercules. I bought an Executive when I heard they were going to be discontinued and that's the one SAK I can't go without. Around that same time I got my first Alox and the Pioneer/Soldier quickly became a favorite.

All these years later my EDC is a bit more than it was in my youth, but it's still fairly minimal in my mind. It consists of watch, phone, wallet, key fob, Executive, and (usually) a Pioneer. Once in a while I also carry a Vic Money Clip since my wallet is very slim. I no longer feel the need to carry a pen, and I wish I could go without my phone. The Pioneer is sometimes replaced with another SAK on the 84 to 93mm range. That is typically a Cadet, Sportsman, Spartan, or 91mm Companion, but if the mood strikes it could be one of many other SAKs.

Interesting journey! Seems like your edc is fairly similar to mine. I’ve been toying with the idea of going back to the cadet as my primary carry in place of the pioneer, but around the property the larger drivers and more hand filling handles do come in handy. And the weight/size penalty over the cadet isn’t that much.

I agree that some kind of SAK is the quintessential dad knife.


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #20 on: October 06, 2024, 02:28:31 AM
I’ve been toying with the idea of going back to the cadet as my primary carry in place of the pioneer, but around the property the larger drivers and more hand filling handles do come in handy. And the weight/size penalty over the cadet isn’t that much.

I'm with you; I've been switching between the Pioneer and Cadet lately, and while I do like the Cadet it just doesn't have the same feel as the Pioneer. The more robust tools and that fantastic inline awl are too good. Plus, I recently got a nice older red OC and I am finding it irresistible.


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #21 on: October 06, 2024, 02:31:14 AM
I'm with you; I've been switching between the Pioneer and Cadet lately, and while I do like the Cadet it just doesn't have the same feel as the Pioneer. The more robust tools and that fantastic inline awl are too good. Plus, I recently got a nice older red OC and I am finding it irresistible.

Oh yeah, those red old cross knives are special  :drool:


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #22 on: October 06, 2024, 04:20:44 AM
For 32 years my EDC was a Huntsman 99 percent of the time.  After all those years I found the Forum and it became a challenge to figure out what I was going to carry every day  :rofl:
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #23 on: October 06, 2024, 06:44:53 AM
Interesting ideas here.

I would guess that those of us who live in an urban or suburban environment could get by carrying very little as whatever else is needed would be relatively close by. What we want to carry is a different discussion.

I find myself looking for a balance between options and overkill. Some of what I carry is based on having needed that item in the past and not having it easily accessible at the time.

Some is based on what I use at work - it's easier to carry my SwissChamp all the time than switching between a "work" EDC and a "non-work" EDC.

Some is convenience - I can resolve the issue with what’s on me vs. having to go get something.

Some is for “just in case”, like a couple of Band-Aids in my wallet.

And then I'll read about what someone else carries and get new ideas.  :)
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #24 on: October 06, 2024, 11:16:07 AM
Most days, the only knife I have with me is my good old Spartan. And that’s good enough!


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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #25 on: October 06, 2024, 10:52:05 PM
I have come to appreciate the Alox Bantam even more. A Leatherman Super Tool 300 has become an invaluable part of my work tool kit. But the work I do isn't exactly clean. I'm hesitant to use the ST300's combo tool to open a soda bottle. An Alox Bantam rides in my pocket, clean and ready to pop the top when I want a Mexican Coca-Cola or Fanta with lunch. :tu:
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #26 on: October 06, 2024, 11:01:02 PM
I have come to appreciate the Alox Bantam even more. A Leatherman Super Tool 300 has become an invaluable part of my work tool kit. But the work I do isn't exactly clean. I'm hesitant to use the ST300's combo tool to open a soda bottle. An Alox Bantam rides in my pocket, clean and ready to pop the top when I want a Mexican Coca-Cola or Fanta with lunch. :tu:
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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #27 on: October 10, 2024, 05:11:55 PM
I've enjoyed reading this thread and thought I'd contribute my own personal experience.

while sometimes I do enjoy the unencumbered feeling that a minimalist carry can promote- lately I've grown accustomed to carrying larger tools such as the SwissChamp and standard SwissTool.

The standard SwissTool is a BEAST and weighs more than 10 ounces. I've tried carrying it on my belt in a sheath but this lead me to discovering that I really really do not like belt carry as the sheath just seems to always be in the way.

Additionally I knew a guy years ago who was mistakenly shot and killed by a police officer who thought that his multitool sheath was a weapon holster. even though I live in a somewhat rural area with very low crime the police here are sometimes quick to pull their guns on people. so it's often in the back of my mind when I wear a sheath on my belt that although probably extremely unlikely this could possibly be exposing me to risks associated with these types of trigger-happy officers.

My wife gave me this padded cotton pouch which I've found to be quite useful for carrying my EDC items. It snuggly sits in my front pocket and has individual inner pockets to separate my EDC items. after spending a few weeks with it in my pocket I've got to say it is extremely handy having most of my regular EDC items all in one place. At first I thought it would create too much weight having everything together but it actually works quite well. I know I've got everything with me, it's protected from dust/sand, I'm way less likely to lose/drop something and I can just grab the pouch and be good to go.

we will see if this method of carry will endure but so far I'm definitely a fan  :ahhh





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Re: Some ramblings about SAKs and EDC
Reply #28 on: October 11, 2024, 02:08:51 AM
That pouch is pretty cool! :like:
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Reply #29 on: October 11, 2024, 02:23:03 AM
 :like:  Looks like a nice setup.

It seems fairly large, does it fit your pocket ok?


 

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