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england Offline Dunc

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Rebar file
on: April 05, 2013, 05:53:28 PM
Have Leatherman changed how they finish the file at the tip on the Rebar or did I just get a short file ?



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Re: Rebar file
Reply #1 on: April 05, 2013, 10:00:29 PM
And there was me thinking the Rebar was a popular tool lol


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #2 on: April 05, 2013, 10:20:01 PM
That's odd. Here's mine.
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Re: Rebar file
Reply #3 on: April 05, 2013, 10:22:37 PM
My Rebar file is also that way but more of an angle than yours. When closing the Rebar the end of the file is close to the handle.





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Re: Rebar file
Reply #4 on: April 05, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
I just scavenged the jaws and Phillips out of mine and chucked the carcass in a drawer

I don't think I even looked at the file lol
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Re: Rebar file
Reply #5 on: April 05, 2013, 10:27:30 PM
And there was me thinking the Rebar was a popular tool lol

And then 3 posts in 2 minutes.  :rofl:


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #6 on: April 05, 2013, 10:37:35 PM
And there was me thinking the Rebar was a popular tool lol

And then 3 posts in 2 minutes.  :rofl:

Just like buses  :rofl: stand there for ages and then 3 come along all at once  :D


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #7 on: April 05, 2013, 10:42:24 PM
It does look like the end of your file may be different than ours. More squared. The longest part of the file is 7mm from handle to tip.
Short part (bottom) is 6.5mm.


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #8 on: April 05, 2013, 10:49:30 PM
The thing is its finished very neatly and square , you can see the faint machine marks in it and its coated in BO


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #9 on: April 05, 2013, 11:18:01 PM
I just scavenged the jaws and Phillips out of mine and chucked the carcass in a drawer
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I don't think I even looked at the file lol


Is that a fairly simple Mod??
I have a B/O Wave MkII and a B/O Rebar. I could actually be tempted.
How easy/hard was it??
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Re: Rebar file
Reply #10 on: April 05, 2013, 11:26:51 PM
I just scavenged the jaws and Phillips out of mine and chucked the carcass in a drawer
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I don't think I even looked at the file lol


Is that a fairly simple Mod??
I have a B/O Wave MkII and a B/O Rebar. I could actually be tempted.
How easy/hard was it??


Super easy. Google metros black tide.
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Re: Rebar file
Reply #11 on: April 06, 2013, 10:09:32 AM
I posted a pic on LMs Facebook page and they said its looks ok to them  :think:  I don't think it's worth sending it back for , there's still a chance this could be new stock.


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #12 on: April 06, 2013, 10:26:04 AM
Have Leatherman changed how they finish the file at the tip on the Rebar or did I just get a short file ?

(Image removed from quote.)

  Think I know the answer to your question. Yours is the black oxide version, correct? If you work the file up & down in the channel you would probably notice that it just misses the pliers. Reason for this is to keep the file from scraping up against the pliers head - thus reducing the possibility of it scratching up the finish on the pliers.

  With the shiny stainless steel version the file is longer but passes closely between the handle & the pliers. Though most probably would never make contact with either side, there is no chance in marring up an already shiny surface, as opposed to a blackened surface.
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Re: Rebar file
Reply #13 on: April 06, 2013, 11:48:21 AM
Have Leatherman changed how they finish the file at the tip on the Rebar or did I just get a short file ?

(Image removed from quote.)

  Think I know the answer to your question. Yours is the black oxide version, correct? If you work the file up & down in the channel you would probably notice that it just misses the pliers. Reason for this is to keep the file from scraping up against the pliers head - thus reducing the possibility of it scratching up the finish on the pliers.

  With the shiny stainless steel version the file is longer but passes closely between the handle & the pliers. Though most probably would never make contact with either side, there is no chance in marring up an already shiny surface, as opposed to a blackened surface.

That's a very good point , so someone with a BO Rebar should be able to confirm they have one the same


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #14 on: April 06, 2013, 12:40:27 PM
Have Leatherman changed how they finish the file at the tip on the Rebar or did I just get a short file ?

  Think I know the answer to your question. Yours is the black oxide version, correct? If you work the file up & down in the channel you would probably notice that it just misses the pliers. Reason for this is to keep the file from scraping up against the pliers head - thus reducing the possibility of it scratching up the finish on the pliers.

  With the shiny stainless steel version the file is longer but passes closely between the handle & the pliers. Though most probably would never make contact with either side, there is no chance in marring up an already shiny surface, as opposed to a blackened surface.

That's a very good point , so someone with a BO Rebar should be able to confirm they have one the same

  Took a couple of photos to show what am getting at. Some people would fold the pliers all the way out, yet others would just slide the pliers up just enough (like me) to get the file. Then close the tool back up, or extend it out.


  Showing a possible scraping issue


  Distance of file between the handle & pliers


  Hope this helps in your inquiry. Since Leatherman is closed for the weekend I doubt they will answer. Depending upon how many facebook posts are applied between your post and Monday yours might get buried a bit.
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Re: Rebar file
Reply #15 on: April 06, 2013, 01:16:53 PM
  Your country doesn't by chance have some obscure law against long files does it?  :rofl:

   Possible you ended up with a fluke, revision, or just flat out got the short end of the :pok: . Have you contacted the reseller and seen about getting a replacement? Not sure what the shipping is like over there across the big pond.
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Re: Rebar file
Reply #16 on: April 07, 2013, 05:24:16 AM
Mine's the same as the other SS ones.

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Re: Rebar file
Reply #17 on: April 07, 2013, 05:48:21 AM
I think you got an factory goof. Unless its a revision that is just surfacing.

The BO rebar in this youtube video has the file the normal way.

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Re: Rebar file
Reply #18 on: April 07, 2013, 06:35:57 AM
What is the file length? Can you tell if the tip is missing? Is it an older model, maybe it is an original design that was changed.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2013, 06:37:52 AM by THE_LONGBOW »


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #19 on: April 07, 2013, 07:08:06 AM
It measures 64mm from handle to tip , I'm going to send it back.


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #20 on: April 07, 2013, 12:17:43 PM
Dunc, was this bought from a retailer or from a private dealer? This is my guess, after owning several defective Leathermans. Some one broke the tip off the file and decided to grind it down and recolour it, hoping no one notices. If this was bought from the retailer, and the factory did this instead of discarding it, I would be really worried about the quality control of Leatherman. As a collector, I am worried that Leatherman is struggling to compete with the other cheap KOs, and feel the need to compromise on quality. 


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #21 on: April 07, 2013, 04:13:27 PM
It was from a retailer so it's certainly a factory error and its being sent back Monday.
   I know what you mean about quality control but its not unique to just Leatherman , I've got and had Gerber and Victorinox tools with things wrong with them. We just have to remember that they are mass produced tools and this is to be expected but sometimes it does feel like every tool I get has something wrong with it. Once it was considered that factory mistakes were rare and collectible but now it's more the ones without defects are rare and collectible.

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Re: Rebar file
Reply #22 on: April 12, 2013, 03:27:07 AM
Man I think it looked Boss.

I can understand wanting a longer file but I don't understand why they way they made it tapered in the first place.
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Yours looked awesome.


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #23 on: April 12, 2013, 10:21:40 PM
I just sent Leatherman an email about this and got this back...
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Thank you for contacting us.  We did make a running change on the file of the Rebar, you have the current one.


Thanks again for contacting Leatherman Tool Group, Inc.

Sincerely,


Toni Mekkers
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Leatherman Tool Group, Inc.
Leatherman / LED Lenser
So I guess they changed the file now.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2013, 10:24:59 PM by Nhoj »


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #24 on: April 12, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
I just sent Leatherman an email about this and got this back...
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Thank you for contacting us.  We did make a running change on the file of the Rebar, you have the current one.


Thanks again for contacting Leatherman Tool Group, Inc.

Sincerely,


Toni Mekkers
Customer Service Rep III
Leatherman Tool Group, Inc.
Leatherman / LED Lenser
So I guess they changed the file now.

Thanks for posting this  :tu: I just got this back from LM as well .....

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Of course, Duncan.  It's kind of a long explanation, so bear with me.  The original Rebar design (and the image you see on our website) had the angled file tip.  Yours is a newer version.

When our machines pick up a punched out steel file piece, it's perfectly flat.  The machine holds the file on both ends and then scores the file lines.  After that, the end tip is cut off, so that the file scores go all the way to the end.

We modified the Rebar just slightly after our first couple of runs with the tool because we were finding that our machines weren't cutting off that tip properly every time, and we were having to scrap a percentage of our files. After speaking with users, it became clear that the angled tip of the file wasn't an important feature, so we decided to continue what has been successful for us in the past (for example, on our Super Tool and PST tools) and just cut the file off square.

We don't do this on some of our tools, such as our Wave, because the file tip needs to have a nail nick in there and is already kind of a strange shape. 


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #25 on: April 12, 2013, 11:30:06 PM
It was from a retailer so it's certainly a factory error and its being sent back Monday.
   I know what you mean about quality control but its not unique to just Leatherman , I've got and had Gerber and Victorinox tools with things wrong with them. We just have to remember that they are mass produced tools and this is to be expected but sometimes it does feel like every tool I get has something wrong with it. Once it was considered that factory mistakes were rare and collectible but now it's more the ones without defects are rare and collectible.

Dunc

I eat my words  :-[  as it turns out the file is a design change and not a fault that makes my Rebar perfect  :D not a thing wrong with it , all blades lockup securely with no play , plier jaws have no play . Smiles all round  :D


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #26 on: April 12, 2013, 11:35:01 PM
Good info, but it really did look off when you first posted.  I guess Im just used to how the older one looked.
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Re: Rebar file
Reply #27 on: April 13, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
All the collectors are going to have to by the new one now  :whistle:


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #28 on: April 17, 2013, 04:30:00 AM
So has anyone else got a Rebar with a new file yet or am I multitool .org first ?    :multi:


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Re: Rebar file
Reply #29 on: May 04, 2013, 09:01:37 PM
Just got this a few days ago...

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