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Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!

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Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
on: May 09, 2009, 02:47:42 AM
OK, so I am sure anyone here who is an SAK fan has heard about an Astronaut knife. Well Victorinox has made 2 or 3 depending on your point of view. In late 1978 NASA bought 50 knives from Victorinox, models unknown but they were probably the Master Craftsman. During the 1980's (specifically 1986-1991) Victorinox released the Master Craftsman renamed as the Astronaut, no image or anything different and then later in the 1980's they made the now famous Space Shuttle model from the same model of knife except it has an image of the Space Shuttle on the front scale. Due to overlapping of early model (pre 1991) and later models (post 1991) you will find a couple of Space Shuttle variants with a slightly different blade setup but sticking closely with the Master Craftsman.
OK, so during the late 1980's (1989?) Victorinox released this Astronaut you see below. It is a commemorative knife having the Spacesuit Astronaut on the front scale, special writing on the main blade commemorating the event and is serial numbered on the liner behind the Phillips Screwdriver. It is created from an early Craftsman model without the Hook. The serial number indicates at least 2000 might have been made but I am waiting to hear back from Victorinox in Switzerland for sure. I have been told these were available in both Red and White. I do not have the original packaging or paperwork so I am dependent on what Mr. Elsener tells me and maybe he will have a press photo of the original.

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009, 04:27:28 AM
Never having seen neither the Astronaut nor the Space Shuttle in person,I can't tell if the astronaut is inlaid like the Swiss shield or stamped. Thanks for sharing a rarity.
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 04:28:54 AM
The Astronaut image is inlaid metal just like the Vic shield.


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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 05:13:06 AM
Wow, that is simply awesome! Thanks for sharing....   :tu:
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 05:20:29 AM
 :D Where's Neil at :pok: ::) :D :D :D

Thanks for sharing SM5000 :tu:


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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 05:33:45 AM
That's a def keeper.  Thanks for sharing
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #6 on: May 09, 2009, 07:45:37 AM
cool, ive never seen one before, thanks for the pics :tu:
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #7 on: May 09, 2009, 09:32:20 AM
 :drool: :drool:

That thud, was Neil fainting :D
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #8 on: May 09, 2009, 03:13:02 PM
:drool: :drool:

That thud, was Neil fainting :D

 ??? Where am I again.

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #9 on: May 09, 2009, 03:31:47 PM
WOW they look cool. Stressman how did you come by those rare SAK's  :think: :think:
Thanks for sharing the great photos mate  :cheers:

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #10 on: May 09, 2009, 03:43:21 PM
You're a lucky guy Stressmaster and thank for the info.  :tu:

Do we reckon Tinnie could make an Astronaut scale for Neil?
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Reply #11 on: May 09, 2009, 05:10:03 PM
:P :P :P
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #12 on: May 09, 2009, 05:22:07 PM
Nice to see it such great condition  :tu:
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #13 on: May 09, 2009, 06:36:28 PM
Here's the letter confirming that Mastercraftsman was being issued to Astronauts:

http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/Victorinox_Letter_From_NASA.pdf
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #14 on: May 09, 2009, 07:09:57 PM
Those models are so nice.  :drool:

 I think it is no accident that NASA got those models. The Master Craftsman and Craftsmen are my favourite larger tool configurations.
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #15 on: May 09, 2009, 07:41:22 PM
A little section from a letter to Victorinox:

"Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Edward M. Payton of Rock Island, Illinois, USA. My brother is an astronaut and last year flew with the ?Discovery? space shuttle. He took one of your pocket-knives with him: my brother flew with a Master Craftsman Swiss Army Knife as part of his equipment. He, and all the other astronauts, were given a knife like this so they could use it during their flight. My brother needed this knife for a number of tasks during the flight . He was full of praise for the Master Craftsman because it functioned well even under the difficult conditions of space flight - weightlessness..."

Full thing can be read here:

http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=220&lang=E&highlight=astronaut
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #16 on: May 10, 2009, 12:11:26 PM
Here's the letter confirming that Mastercraftsman was being issued to Astronauts:

http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/Victorinox_Letter_From_NASA.pdf


So Neil just needs to 'roll' an NASA Astronaut , simple  ;) ;).

You could put on one of those adult nappies drive non stop across the USA.............  :oops: that has already been tried hasn't it  :think: :P :P :P 
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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #17 on: May 10, 2009, 12:22:00 PM
Here's the letter confirming that Mastercraftsman was being issued to Astronauts:

http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/Victorinox_Letter_From_NASA.pdf


So Neil just needs to 'roll' an NASA Astronaut , simple  ;) ;).

You could put on one of those adult nappy drive non stop across the USA.............  :oops: that has already been tried hasn't it  :think: :P :P :P 

 :ahhh  You scare me Mat :D

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #18 on: May 10, 2009, 12:44:00 PM
Here's the letter confirming that Mastercraftsman was being issued to Astronauts:

http://www.e-webtechnologies.com/sak/Victorinox_Letter_From_NASA.pdf


So Neil just needs to 'roll' an NASA Astronaut , simple  ;) ;).

You could put on one of those adult nappy drive non stop across the USA.............  :oops: that has already been tried hasn't it  :think: :P :P :P 

 :ahhh  You scare me Mat :D

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #19 on: May 10, 2009, 12:48:10 PM
Well I've already got a Shuttle so I figure something only mildly depraved :P

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #20 on: May 10, 2009, 03:00:41 PM
Well I've already got a Shuttle so I figure something only mildly depraved :P

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Reply #21 on: May 10, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
Well I've already got a Shuttle so I figure something only mildly depraved :P

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Reply #22 on: May 10, 2009, 03:14:24 PM
Well I've already got a Shuttle so I figure something only mildly depraved :P

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Reply #23 on: May 10, 2009, 03:20:04 PM
Well I've already got a Shuttle so I figure something only mildly depraved :P

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 ::) :pok: Tart :P

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Reply #24 on: May 10, 2009, 03:29:59 PM
Well I've already got a Shuttle so I figure something only mildly depraved :P

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #25 on: May 10, 2009, 04:33:14 PM
A little section from a letter to Victorinox:

"Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Edward M. Payton of Rock Island, Illinois, USA. My brother is an astronaut and last year flew with the ?Discovery? space shuttle. He took one of your pocket-knives with him: my brother flew with a Master Craftsman Swiss Army Knife as part of his equipment. He, and all the other astronauts, were given a knife like this so they could use it during their flight. My brother needed this knife for a number of tasks during the flight . He was full of praise for the Master Craftsman because it functioned well even under the difficult conditions of space flight - weightlessness..."

Full thing can be read here:

http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=220&lang=E&highlight=astronaut
I remember reading that story before but I had missed that here recently. Thanks for pointing it out Gareth. I also found a couple of other things relating to this.
Here in this article about 3/4's the way down the page there is a sub-article named "More on NASA knives", you will see a couple familiar photos and some interesting reading from Tom Wolfe who wrote an article for "Blade" magazine.
http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/knife_knotes_10.htm
Also, if you read the question and then click on the reply from Robert Elsener on the Victorinox Forum over at the Vic.ch Swiss website it helps explain that other "Astronaut" knife which is really no more than an early Master Craftsman that was renamed to fit the popularity of the times. Be sure and click on the link just under the question and you can read Robert Elsener's reply. I have another inquiry on this commemorative waiting for a reply from Mr. Elsener as well.
Here is a link to that other "Astronaut" knife over at Bond's of London.
http://www.bondsoflondon.com/catalouge/moredetails.asp?id=2078&cid=28
http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=107&lang=E&action=show&for_thema=Taschenmesser&for_page=1&for_msg=20090415105535


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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #26 on: May 10, 2009, 08:47:42 PM
Well I've already got a Shuttle so I figure something only mildly depraved :P

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Ain't no fun in mild depravity...either go whole hog,or go home :D

 ::) :pok: Tart :P

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I'm not that brave! (Image removed from quote.)

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Discretion is the better part of valor...or something like that :think:

Seriously...I live in a part of the country,where the rare,and oddball shows up in the most unlikely places..if I run across one..I'll give you a shout.

I would be more than grateful for any assistance in my hunt for Moby :D

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #27 on: May 10, 2009, 08:49:35 PM
A little section from a letter to Victorinox:

"Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Edward M. Payton of Rock Island, Illinois, USA. My brother is an astronaut and last year flew with the ?Discovery? space shuttle. He took one of your pocket-knives with him: my brother flew with a Master Craftsman Swiss Army Knife as part of his equipment. He, and all the other astronauts, were given a knife like this so they could use it during their flight. My brother needed this knife for a number of tasks during the flight . He was full of praise for the Master Craftsman because it functioned well even under the difficult conditions of space flight - weightlessness..."

Full thing can be read here:

http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=220&lang=E&highlight=astronaut
I remember reading that story before but I had missed that here recently. Thanks for pointing it out Gareth. I also found a couple of other things relating to this.
Here in this article about 3/4's the way down the page there is a sub-article named "More on NASA knives", you will see a couple familiar photos and some interesting reading from Tom Wolfe who wrote an article for "Blade" magazine.
http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/knife_knotes_10.htm
Also, if you read the question and then click on the reply from Robert Elsener on the Victorinox Forum over at the Vic.ch Swiss website it helps explain that other "Astronaut" knife which is really no more than an early Master Craftsman that was renamed to fit the popularity of the times. Be sure and click on the link just under the question and you can read Robert Elsener's reply. I have another inquiry on this commemorative waiting for a reply from Mr. Elsener as well.
Here is a link to that other "Astronaut" knife over at Bond's of London.
http://www.bondsoflondon.com/catalouge/moredetails.asp?id=2078&cid=28
http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=107&lang=E&action=show&for_thema=Taschenmesser&for_page=1&for_msg=20090415105535

Thanks Wayne, I'd seen the bit on the Vic. forum but the other was a new read  :tu:  I wonder what the varying astronauts are carrying now?  Reading the piece, I wonder if we'll ever find out.

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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #28 on: May 12, 2009, 11:18:54 PM
I have yet to get an answer from Mr. Elsener in Swiss but personally I feel like the Master Craftsman was the knives bought by NASA in the late 1970's and then when the fame of the new Space Shuttle launches came about in the 1980's, Victorinox changed the name so folks would know which ones the Astronauts were using. It probably didn't hurt sales either to have the name change. Then to add even more sales drawing power they add a Space Shuttle to the scales. All of these knives were Master Craftsman models overlapping 1991 so the Space Shuttle knives had different blade configurations due to new tools being released. Back in 1989 when the Astronaut Commemorative was released I am unsure why they changed to a different model of knife.

I am hoping Mr. Elsener will have some details to answer some questions and suppositions about these NASA related knives.

If you have not been to the SAKWicki.com lately I have added some of the photos to the "Craftsman" model page describing this knife.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2009, 11:20:58 PM by stressmaster5000 »


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Re: Victorinox Astronaut - its the real thing!
Reply #29 on: May 13, 2009, 04:04:35 AM
If you have not been to the SAKWiki lately I have added some of the photos to the "Craftsman" model page describing this knife.
(fixed link)

Thanks for updating the wiki  :salute: and please, everyone who has the knowledge and/or pics do the same. It can be an invaluable resource for all of us but we have to make it so. A little bit at a time.


 

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